Ashura, Indra reincarnations was not about power

[Animegoin]

With Ashura and Indra he means Senju and Uchiha, or people related to them, not their ghosts, being a reincarnate is all a mental thing, not a physical one, they don't inherit powers through reincarnations only bloodlines.

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The amount of people denying manga facts today is extraordinarily high.

 

[Uzumaki sensei]

No other Senju in history possessed the Wood Release KKG but Hashirama, Ashura’s reincarnate, had that and a natural (non-animal based) Sage Mode. Things aren’t looking too good for this thread.

ashura didnt have wood release either doesnt look good for your post

 

[uhmusddy]

They only had the WILL to gain power alone or through help of others, it doesn't mean they would automatically gain kage level powers.



With Ashura and Indra he means Senju and Uchiha, or people related to them, not their ghosts, being a reincarnate is all a mental thing, not a physical one, they don't inherit powers through reincarnations only bloodlines.



Only some Uchihas could, not the reincarnates, if reincarnates has all the gifts then this would have been documented, legends would have been known by generations who are better than others, for a thousand years only Madara was known to have gained ems.
MAYBE Madara had some special chakra cus he had the will of Indra but I doubt it. People would have known about certain people being stronger than others systematically in like every generation.
Kushina had special chakra too though.




Look at all those transmigrants, not one of them were known to unlock the secrets of sharingan?
Madara and Hashirama got to where they were cus they lived with survival of the fittest, not cus it was destiny, they walked the paths of Ashura and Indra, clashed like they did cus of Zetsu and all but they didn't get op cus they had the same will.

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None of them unlocked rinnegan, that doesn’t mean they were weak. Madara was a god before rinnegan

 

[Uzumaki sensei]

The only shinobi to master sage mode perfectly without implanting any special DNA are hashirama and naruto (ashura's incarnates). J
Both jiraiya and minato have higher chakra control and mastery of jutsus over naruto, but somehow, his mastery of natural energy is better than thiers. That's a perk of having ashura's chakra, not his will.

naruto had help with his naturally large chakra pool nd chakra from kurama

 

[Chikombo]

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The amount of people denying manga facts today is extraordinarily high.

He was old, he sees his kids in the reincarnations, he sees his kids as the different clans inheriting their wills.

None of them unlocked rinnegan, that doesn’t mean they were weak. Madara was a god before rinnegan

Then they would have all been leaders, people would have noticed them.

 

[salamander uchiha]

ashura didnt have wood release either doesnt look good for your post

You can't pass on genes you don't possess, it may have been a dormant gene in him.

naruto had help with his naturally large chakra pool nd chakra from kurama

@bold: Naruto's large chakra pool(4 times Kakashi's) is attributed to thw Kyubi at least two times, Naruto used to receive leaked chakra which would mix with his and add to his reserves. There's nothing natural about that

 

[Animegoin]

ashura didnt have wood release either doesnt look good for your post

Ashura had full RSM and Yin-yang Release, which includes divine knowledge. Ashura also wasn’t a Jinchuriki but he used a KCM Kurama-like full body avatar which included the stripe pattern along the tails. In summation, you don’t know what he did have and didn’t have so it’s not looking good for your post. :sdo:

 

[Uzumaki sensei]

That's true. Uchiha and Senju can't awaken rinnegan, its indra and ashura's chakra mixed that does. It clearly stated in manga.

OT: No known incarnate of ashura or indra is weak.All those that we know are strong. So by induction previous ones were strong too for their own generation.

make no sense since their the respective progenitor of both clans theirfore all their chakra is similar to them

 

[Uzumaki sensei]

There were but they’re unknown but Hashirama certainly benefitted from being Ashura’s reincarnate though. Naruto didn’t really benefit at all but Sasuke did, in relation to Indra (obviously).

cant say that there was if their no evidence

 

[Animegoin]

cant say that there was if their no evidence

The evidence is there lmfao, miss me with that bullshit *Kendrick voice*

 

[Chikombo]

Ashura had full RSM and Yin-yang Release, which includes divine knowledge. Ashura also wasn’t a Jinchuriki but he used a KCM Kurama-like full body avatar which included the stripe pattern along the tails. In summation, you don’t know what he did have and didn’t have so it’s not looking good for your post. :sdo:

I'm still not sure if that was filler or canon. Except for the manga panel, I guess those powers were real, but that arc where he had Rasengan and all, I don't know.
But that was a thousand years ago. Also, was it ever confirmed if Indra even had ms? Cus the spiral pattern could have just been a hint that Rinnegan was devolved into sharingan or that they are connected. Maybe he needed it for ps though.

 

[Uzumaki sensei]

The evidence is there lmfao, miss me with that bullshit *Kendrick voice*

what evidence hashirama is the only known original wood style user

 

[Uzumaki sensei]

Ashura had full RSM and Yin-yang Release, which includes divine knowledge. Ashura also wasn’t a Jinchuriki but he used a KCM Kurama-like full body avatar which included the stripe pattern along the tails. In summation, you don’t know what he did have and didn’t have so it’s not looking good for your post. :sdo:

and you dont know what he had since that was filler and we only ever saw his avatar in the manga

 

[Animegoin]

and you dont know what he had since that was filler and we only ever saw his avatar in the manga

That wasn’t filler, that was in the actual manga

So desperate that it’s pathetic. Again, Miss me with that bullshit *Kendrick voice*

 

[Uzumaki sensei]

That wasn’t filler, that was in the actual manga

So desperate that it’s pathetic. Again, Miss me with that bullshit *Kendrick voice*

show me a scan then because in the MANGA we only ever saw his avatar using tsb like they were bseballs

 

[Pappasaur]

No other Senju in history possessed the Wood Release KKG but Hashirama, Ashura’s reincarnate, had that and a natural (non-animal based) Sage Mode. Things aren’t looking too good for this thread.

Where did it say his sage mode wasn’t animal based? And do we have a complete history of the senju and their abilities to the point where we know only Hashirama ever had woodstyle?

 

[salamander uchiha]

what evidence hashirama is the only known original wood style user

This isn't true the Mokuton originates from the Jyubi even Zetsu can use it. They predate Indra, Ashura, Hashirama likely Hogaromo and Hamura as well. It was passed down you can't pass on yhe genes/ability if you dont possess it even if it may be a dormant gene becore expressing itself in Hashi.

 

[Uzumaki sensei]

This isn't true the Mokuton originates from the Jyubi even Zetsu can use it. They predate Indra, Ashura, Hashirama likely Hogaromo and Hamura as well. It was passed down you can't pass on yhe genes/ability if you dont possess it even if it may be a dormant gene becore expressing itself in Hashi.

im talking human and zetsu are people that are made into zetsu by the gedo mazou enhanced with hashi dna so the dont count

 

[Animegoin]

what evidence hashirama is the only known original wood style user

You don’t even know what you’re addressing at this point but for the sake of argument, who else aside from Kaguya utilized Wood Release?

What other Senju, for that matter, utilized Wood Release?

What other shinobi had chakra reserves like Hashirama?

What other shinobi, including the Jugo clan, utilized non-animal based Sage Mode that included self healing?

 

[Uzumaki sensei]

You don’t even know what you’re addressing at this point but for the sake of argument, who else aside from Kaguya utilized Wood Release?

HUMAN user of wood style and none of his past transmigrant were able to use wood style, zetsu obito madara stole his dna in order to use wood style