Ashura and Kurama

LeSauce

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Yes, this is about their relationship.

First off, I know that there are scans that support Ashura not having Kurama as a helper to achieve his Susnao'o-like manifestation, but I would like to point out that there might be more evidence to support that he did.

It's not concrete, but if you notice in the latest chapter Hogoromo says that you need Kurama's chakra along with the brothers'. Now why would this be? He doesn't say that they needed the bijuu's chakra in general, but that they need Kurama's.

I feel like this hints to Ashura cooperating with Kurama in the past, but there could easily be other interpretations.

What d i y'all think? Did they work together, or is Kurama's chakra needed for another reason?
 

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Is today make up bullshit day? Cause it feels like it.
 

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Is today make up bullshit day? Cause it feels like it.

What? You could just say you don't think he was a Jinchuuriki and come up with another explanation ya know.
 

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Kurama was just special.
Anyways hagoromo said ashuras chakra "bloomed" in which he became on par with Indra.
 

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Ashura and indra chakra is needed to get rinnegan which is what madara did
Ashura and indra and kyuubi chakra is needed to allow Hagoromo to come out in the real world which is what happened when madara became a jinchuriki of the juubi

Not hard to understand
 

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I guess it could be possible that they had a relationship. I don't understand the time frame of the biju's creation. Hagoromo apparently split the Jubi's chakra and sent it to the moon on his deathbed, wouldn't that mean that's when the biju were created? However in that flashback of him talking to the biju, he clearly isn't on his deathbed....IDK it seems fishy, maybe Kishi retconned that and Hagoromo created the biju at some point when he was old, but not dying, and Ashura tamed Kurama.
 

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well i feel like the sage chose his successor then split up the beasts then ashura became the avatar for them since indra does things alone....
 

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Ashura and indra chakra is needed to get rinnegan which is what madara did
Ashura and indra and kyuubi chakra is needed to allow Hagoromo to come out in the real world which is what happened when madara became a jinchuriki of the juubi

Not hard to understand
I'm asking why Kurama's chakra is needed aling with the brothers'.

I guess it could be possible that they had a relationship. I don't understand the time frame of the biju's creation. Hagoromo apparently split the Jubi's chakra and sent it to the moon on his deathbed, wouldn't that mean that's when the biju were created? However in that flashback of him talking to the biju, he clearly isn't on his deathbed....IDK it seems fishy, maybe Kishi retconned that and Hagoromo created the biju at some point when he was old, but not dying, and Ashura tamed Kurama.
I was also thinking that he tamed Kurama. I mean, what were the bijuus doing throughout the war?
well i feel like the sage chose his successor then split up the beasts then ashura became the avatar for them since indra does things alone....

Possibly.
 

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I just told, it is needed to bring out Hagoromo in the real world, I dont know you made the jump to your theory

Ok, but why is Kurama's chakra needed? Why his and not the other bijuu's chakra? Why is his chakra needed to get to Hogoromo along with Indra and Ashura.
 
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