As a Member of Root, Danzo Is Also Responsible for Oro + Destruction of Leaf!

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So it has been shown in the manga that Oro was once a member of Root, he was with Danzo when they threatened Kabuto and the Orphanage.

Now as a 'member of root' would Danzo put a seal on Oro's tongue? wouldn't there have been certain restrictions placed on Oro by Danzo...?

and finally...the most important part...

Why Was Hiruzen the Only One Responsible For Orochimaru!

Hiruzen regretted not stopping Orochimaru as his sensei...but why the hell didnt Danzo do anything to prevent Oro from leaving, or even feel bad enough to try and kill him afterwards?

Oro attempted to destroy the village, Danzo is partly responsible for that then, and yet he doesn't feel bad?
So much for 'the best for the village' - this just proves that Danzo is purely power hungry also making him responsible for Oro's plan to destroy the leaf...Perhaps it was the powers that Oro gave to Danzo that pursuaded him to leave Oro alone after he abandoned the leaf? or is that at another time

Its this same mentality that prevented Danzo from stepping in during the attack on the leaf by Pein and maybe caused destruction of the leaf through that (although thats not what this threads about).

what do you think?
 

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I think there's a lot of dirty deal under the table between Danzo and orochimaru :\
perhaps they agree to not interfere with one and other.
but I agree danzo is more power hungry than helping leaf, we can see that from Pain invasion arc.
 

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So it has been shown in the manga that Oro was once a member of Root, he was with Danzo when they threatened Kabuto and the Orphanage.

Now as a 'member of root' would Danzo put a seal on Oro's tongue? wouldn't there have been certain restrictions placed on Oro by Danzo...?

and finally...the most important part...

Why Was Hiruzen the Only One Responsible For Orochimaru!

Hiruzen regretted not stopping Orochimaru as his sensei...but why the hell didnt Danzo do anything to prevent Oro from leaving, or even feel bad enough to try and kill him afterwards?

Oro attempted to destroy the village, Danzo is partly responsible for that then, and yet he doesn't feel bad?
So much for 'the best for the village' - this just proves that Danzo is purely power hungry also making him responsible for Oro's plan to destroy the leaf...Perhaps it was the powers that Oro gave to Danzo that pursuaded him to leave Oro alone after he abandoned the leaf? or is that at another time

Its this same mentality that prevented Danzo from stepping in during the attack on the leaf by Pein and maybe caused destruction of the leaf through that (although thats not what this threads about).

what do you think?

+rep you said it just like a pro
 

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well, while i agree danzo was a dirty dirty s.o.b., him placing seals and restrictions on oro would have been useless...to this point in the manga, oro is still arguably one of the most knowledgeable scholars of all things jutsu, perhaps only rivaled by kabuto...that said i find it hard to believe he wouldnt be able to break any restriction jutsu. At that point kabuto was working for him, so even if he couldnt do it himself, kabuto could simply because any jutsu merely requires the knowledge of its hand seals to operate it, or deactivate it. Next, on danzo not helping during the oro invasion...yes it was extremely shady, but you must remember, root is the MOST secretive sect of what is already one of the most secretive organizations in all of narutoverse. Root is like the naruto version of the CIA, they work completely behind the scenes and if anything makes it back to them publicly, they deny it totally. Although it will never be known and isnt important to the plot, i bet its not a big stretch to imagine danzo sending a couple anbu hit squads which obviously would have failed given the still successful invasion and danzo left it at that, i see oro imbibing him with sharingans for izanagi as a moot point because knowing danzo's character, he would consider it foolish to ally himself with oro or even sit out battles with him just because of the gift.
 

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Danzo may not have known. Orochimaru's experience and knowledge with jutsu is so vast, he probably removed the seal then left soon afterwards. There is no way to prove Danzo knew that Orochimaru would go rogue. Just saying, the only reason Danzo "worked with" Orochimaru was so Sai could assassinate Sasuke, thus setting back Orochimaru's plans by years.
 

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Danzo has shown on multiple occasions that he has the Leaf's "best interest" in mind. He gave Sai the mission to assassinate Sasuke( Oro's next vessel). In Danzo's defense of not going all out in defending the leaf during Chunin exams, his character wasn't even introduced until shippuden. And to say he did nothing helpful to the leaf during Oro's invasion is a bit naive.

There was also wisdom in Danzo's inaction during Pain's invasion. Akatsuki was looking for Naruto. Naruto was not in the village. Therefor Nagato would eventually leave the village once he discovered this, leaving Danzo and Root to be in a position to rebuild what was destroyed.

Yes Danzo is shady. maybe the tounge jutsu was not developed when oro was in root...
 

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Danzo doesn't give a **** the Third Hokage died thats all he cared about
 

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its all plot.

Danzo could have stopped oro by using kotoamatsukami ... but it didn't happened.

coz of PnJ.

hiruzen had to die to show oro as a villain.
 

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the raikage even thought danzo had something to with the destruction of the leaf
 

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Danzo may not have known. Orochimaru's experience and knowledge with jutsu is so vast, he probably removed the seal then left soon afterwards. There is no way to prove Danzo knew that Orochimaru would go rogue. Just saying, the only reason Danzo "worked with" Orochimaru was so Sai could assassinate Sasuke, thus setting back Orochimaru's plans by years.

Danzo has shown on multiple occasions that he has the Leaf's "best interest" in mind. He gave Sai the mission to assassinate Sasuke( Oro's next vessel). In Danzo's defense of not going all out in defending the leaf during Chunin exams, his character wasn't even introduced until shippuden. And to say he did nothing helpful to the leaf during Oro's invasion is a bit naive.

There was also wisdom in Danzo's inaction during Pain's invasion. Akatsuki was looking for Naruto. Naruto was not in the village. Therefor Nagato would eventually leave the village once he discovered this, leaving Danzo and Root to be in a position to rebuild what was destroyed.

Yes Danzo is shady. maybe the tounge jutsu was not developed when oro was in root...


but he didnt take any responsibility for it or attempt to kill Oro ever, as someone has already said, there are definitly shady deals under the table between the two of them - whether or not sai was being used to delay oro is irrelevant, Danzo still never targeted Oro himself - nor did he ever take responsibility AFTER oro went rogue - even if he didnt know before hand.

Danzo hasnt proven to 'care for the village' he wanted the 3rd to die so he could be next in line - he then also didnt care during the Pein invasion and let the whole village get destroyed for power - the whole village got destroyed and everyone died - and would still be dead if not for nagato's change in heart, jesus - he just wanted to be in control by the end of the war and let it get out of hand so that Tsunade would have to over-exhurt herself and so that he could gain her position and political power - theres no wisdom in that - just greed.
, even as more proof - danzo attempted to gain even more power by controlling the samurai so he could be in charge of the alliance - that doesnt benefit the village - just makes him gain more power.


also the tongue jutsu isnt the major point of this thread - its just something extra i added in
 
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Thankyou :), much appreciated.
 

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Danzo has shown on multiple occasions that he has the Leaf's "best interest" in mind. He gave Sai the mission to assassinate Sasuke( Oro's next vessel). In Danzo's defense of not going all out in defending the leaf during Chunin exams, his character wasn't even introduced until shippuden. And to say he did nothing helpful to the leaf during Oro's invasion is a bit naive.

There was also wisdom in Danzo's inaction during Pain's invasion. Akatsuki was looking for Naruto. Naruto was not in the village. Therefor Nagato would eventually leave the village once he discovered this, leaving Danzo and Root to be in a position to rebuild what was destroyed.

Yes Danzo is shady. maybe the tounge jutsu was not developed when oro was in root...

Even though he wasn't introduced at that point, he was very much alive, yet still did absolutely nothing. I'm curious as to why Kishi has yet to explain this. I know Danzo is a secretive character, but one thing he has shown is he does love Konoha, even if it is in a ****ed up way. He and Jiraiya at that point are the only 2 people who would have been capable of standing up to Orochimaru and Hashirama+Tobirama.

Him not even bothering to help Hiruzen defend Konoha is a joke. If he would have done that he would have gained a lot of trust from the village, and they wouldn't have been nearly as skeptical to him taking over.
 

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Danzou and Oro were still in contact, Oro helped developed an easier method to use Koto and also prototyped Hashiramas DNA for Danzou
 

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I don't think Kishi intended to introduce Danzo to help stop Oro. However a theory was made that Danzo actually let Oro plan the invasion so that both the Hokage and the Kazekage would die which would weaken the Sand Village and increase Danzo's chances of becoming Hokage.

I think he never helped defend the village because he didn't want to waste izanagi and was too old without izanagi to be able to fight and dodge attack efficiently.
 

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Yep! Danzo's the bad guy! If he really has the leaf's best interest at heart, then I don't think I'd like him as a caretaker.
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Oh, don't worry. It's all for the best!
On a serious note, I think that after everything he's done, it's plausible to say that Danzo could've cooperated with Oro in some way in order to better his chances of becoming Hokage.
 

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yeah he is the real bad guy, remember that he took power from oro in hashi dna and sharingan implementation into his own body - that was probably the deal
 
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