Art of the Bandit: [Kinkaku vs Ginkaku] VS GOLDEN GENERATION

[Infant]

The brothers are at it again, this time really intent on going through with it - Kinkaku with the Canopy Rope and Banana Palm Fan and Ginkaku with the Seven Star Sword and Crimson Gourd
As they do, Golden Generation members Tenten, Lee, Hinata, Kiba, Ino, Sai, Kankuro, Temari, Omoi, Jirobo of the South Gate and Suigetsu are watching from the sidelines

After the brothers finish fighting, the GG will ambush the remaining brother for another death match!

Challenge:
1) Individually, which GG kid could perform best against the tired brother, either losing the hardest or winning the easiest?
2) In a team battle, which GG kid will contribute the most to taking down the remaining brother?
3) What is the smallest GG group that could guarantee victory over the remaining, tired brother

Versions are Pre-4th War. No knowledge for the GG. All other conditions fair.

 

[Bob74h]

The brothers are at it again, this time really intent on going through with it - Kinkaku with the Canopy Rope and Banana Palm Fan and Ginkaku with the Seven Star Sword and Crimson Gourd
As they do, Golden Generation members Tenten, Lee, Hinata, Kiba, Ino, Sai, Kankuro, Temari, Omoi, Jirobo of the South Gate and Suigetsu are watching from the sidelines

After the brothers finish fighting, the GG will ambush the remaining brother for another death match!

the weapons are effectively useless on their own, They require each other to function so it goes down to strength
it was known, kingaku lead a force named after him and survived after ginkaku kicked the bucket in the past and as a edo so most likely kingaku would win here

Challenge:
1) Individually, which GG kid could perform best against the tired brother, either losing the hardest or winning the easiest?

Anyone could no diff given how easily darui dealt with them, Ripping their limbs off and causally blasting through them with laser circus
tired, kingaku would get solo'd by the likes of rock lee rather easily as he could damage edo madara

 

[Infant]

the weapons are effectively useless on their own, They require each other to function so it goes down to strength

The rope can be extended and teleathically directed, the fan is obviously offensive, the sword can still cut and serve as a shield, the gourd can bludgeon if handled skillfully or be used as a shield.

Sealing is their best function, but not the only. Disagree?

it was known, kingaku lead a force named after him and survived after ginkaku kicked the bucket in the past and as a edo so most likely kingaku would win here

Older brother respect?

Kakuzu spoke as though it was a functional habit, which requires multiple cases or a non-occurence reason such as a conversation, so I doubt his statement confirms Ginkaku died first.

Supposing he did, could it not also be a matter of having faced an opponent strong enough to require V2 state?

 

[Bob74h]

The rope can be extended and teleathically directed, the fan is obviously offensive, the sword can still cut and serve as a shield, the gourd can bludgeon if handled skillfully or be used as a shield.

I mean sure, you can use those items for that purpose just as someone can use a rock as a weapon. Does not make it effective or good

Only thing that has been shown a purpose outside of sealing was the fan and that was when tenten used it to kill kakzuzu's mask

Older brother respect?

For the kingaku force thing? Not sure that apply really given nether brother is much older then the other
Plus it's not like a tobirama and hashirama type situation where one was utter fodder to the other, like it's not like kingaku had giant kaiju battles where his brother could only use miniature water dragons

Kakuzu spoke as though it was a functional habit

Didt he say, when ginkaku kicks the bucket ie dies
How can he always die? Is dying a habit for them?

 

[Infant]

mean sure, you can use those items for that purpose just as someone can use a rock as a weapon. Does not make it effective or good

I did not list purposes but methods and abilities.

Also, that listing had different items as opposed to your singular reference to a rock.

Irrespective, even a rock is indeed useful when your opponent does not have one. Your claim was that it would be totally decided by individual strengths, was it not?

Only thing that has been shown a purpose outside of sealing was the fan and that was when tenten used it to kill kakzuzu's mask

The rope can be extended

and teleathically

the sword can still cut

serve as a shield

gourd can bludgeon

What do you call these then?

For all our disagreements, I do not remember having to quote myself with you.

The half closing ability actually gives the sword more functionality than a normal one.

Did you enjoy referencing the Kakuzu mask destruction

Plus it's not like a tobirama and hashirama type situation where one was utter fodder to the other, like it's not like kingaku had giant kaiju battles where his brother could only use miniature water

I disagree on Tobirama being fodder to Hashirama, for one. Weaker, but not fodder considering how often they fought side by side.

For the kingaku force thing? Not sure that apply really given nether brother is much older then the other

The Japanese are strict on their values, though.

And the matter is already referenced with one being gold and the other being silver.

Didt he say, when ginkaku kicks the bucket ie dies
How can he always die? Is dying a habit for them?

My translations said when he is down, which gave the impression of being knocked out but not dead.

Also, if it meant death then it would mean Kinkaku only ever transformed once on purpose . . . Something that is done by pattern usually happens more than once.