[VS] Armless Orochimaru vs Armless Minato

[Avinash012]

If i remember correctly, Orochimaru stated that he'd force her to.comply since she didnt voluntarily. This suggest his reasoning for fighting them further. After seeing that nothing would result for the altercation he fled. His condition was relatively the same, you can disagree but it doesn't change the fact that he was still mobile and capable of further conflict of needed.

As I said he might be able to move but he was in no condition to continue the fight. Even Kabuto worried about Orochimaru getting that punch from Tsunade which indicates that Tsunade's punch is effective.

What jutsu? He still has true form, 8 branch technique which he used in his weakest state, regeneration, etc.

Minato's kick wouldn't force him to shed his skin unless he lost limbs in the process.

I thought Orochimaru that fought sannin means that we shouldn't use p2 feats of Oro and limit him to the feats of Oro VS Tsunade otherswise Orochimaru wins this.

 

[blazekev90]

As I said he might be able to move but he was in no condition to continue the fight. Even Kabuto worried about Orochimaru getting that punch from Tsunade which indicates that Tsunade's punch is effective.



I thought Orochimaru that fought sannin means that we shouldn't use p2 feats of Oro and limit him to the feats of Oro VS Tsunade otherswise Orochimaru wins this.

Kabuto's concern was appropriate considering Tsunade's reputation.

We consider feats that are logically appropriate given the situation. As you consider SM Minato's enhanced.strength with no proof, it's a given he should be able to perform that ability. Armless Oro would be able to perform any jutsu that doesn't require hand seals.. Those jutsu i mentioned...they don't require the use of his arms

 

[Minator93]

Minato still has, incredible base speed, his reactions, his brains now add Senjutsu enhanced speed, reactions, sensing, and obiously his Senjutsu powered "Kicks" not to forget the Hiraishin No Jutsu!

Minato stopms. He can kick Oro to death or teleport to Toad land and via hiraishin and come back with two three boss toads U_U And proceed to solo U_U

 

[Avinash012]

Kabuto's concern was appropriate considering Tsunade's reputation.

What do u mean by reputation?

Kabuto was well aware of Tsunade's and Orochimaru's abilities (by the end of their battle) and still he was worried about Orochimaru getting hit means that that punch is effective.

Kabuto's concern was appropriate considering Tsunade's reputation.

We consider feats that are logically appropriate given the situation. As you consider SM Minato's enhanced.strength with no proof, it's a given he should be able to perform that ability. Armless Oro would be able to perform any jutsu that doesn't require hand seals.. Those jutsu i mentioned...they don't require the use of his arms

I know that it is logical to assume that he has those abilities at that time but I don't think Oro can use those abilities according to OP otherwise what is the point of saying that it is p1 armless Oro VS Minato? armless Oro vs armless Minato should be enough IMO.With all those abilities it is hard for even Normal Minato to kill that dude let alone armless Minato.

P2 Orochimaru beats armless Minato,this is not even debatable.

@OP: Can Oro use every ability that he has displayed against Kyuubi?

 

[blazekev90]

What do u mean by reputation?

Kabuto was well aware of Tsunade's and Orochimaru's abilities (by the end of their battle) and still he was worried about Orochimaru getting hit means that that punch is effective.





I know that it is logical to assume that he has those abilities at that time but I don't think Oro can use those abilities according to OP otherwise what is the point of saying that it is p1 armless Oro VS Minato? armless Oro vs armless Minato should be enough IMO.With all those abilities it is hard for even Normal Minato to kill that dude let alone armless Minato.

P2 Orochimaru beats armless Minato,this is not even debatable.

@OP: Can Oro use every ability that he has displayed against Kyuubi?

Lol i don't why he wouldn't, they're his natural abilities. But ok, wait for OP to clarify and ima go to sleep.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Minato stands no chance. If he's not an Edo, he bleeds out.

 

[Nattana]

lol, Orochimaru has a massive advantage in this thread yet I see this killing intent BS? As if that nonsense is valid..Lol

Why Killing Intent bullshit? I don't care if Minato will fear it or not, since he won't fall down on the ground trembling in fear, but it doesn't change the fact that Orochimaru can send visions of death on his foes and thereby disturb at least their vision. And he can do it without any hand seals and without even looking at the enemy.

They both can't use any jutsu so they have no choise but to physically damage eachother Minato can dodge any attack armless Orochimaru can offer.If Oro tries to pullout kusanagi then Minato uses shunshin to get near him and uses this attack.

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Shunshin requires hand seals IIRC and you're underrating Oro's reaction feats as well

 

[KidGamer65]

Why bro?I know that kicking him to death sounds funny but still it is possible. Why can't he fight with legs? Why can't Minato using this kind of attacks?

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His base reflexes are still above Oro that fought against Jiraiya and Tsunade and SM greatly increases his strength so he can do that with high dif IMO.

That kind of attack isn't going to work on a body like Orochimaru's. He might feel a tingle or something of the like, but there is no way these kind of attacks are going to do anything serious to him. Meanwhile Orochimaru can still use more than half of his shown arsenal as they doesn't require arms.

Why Killing Intent bullshit? I don't care if Minato will fear it or not, since he won't fall down on the ground trembling in fear, but it doesn't change the fact that Orochimaru can send visions of death on his foes and thereby disturb at least their vision. And he can do it without any hand seals and without even looking at the enemy.

Can we try not to invent or twist Orochimaru's abilities into something they aren't? He isn't sending anything to them. They see those because of his bloodthirst, and his killing intent.

Someone who fought the Juubi's Jin (Two of them) isn't feeling shit from Orochimaru's Killing Intent. Not debatable.

 

[Shura]

Minato can kick Orochimaru to death? Just the kind of BS I'd expect from Minato fans.

OT: Orochimaru wins.

 

[Nattana]

Can we try not to invent or twist Orochimaru's abilities into something they aren't? He isn't sending anything to them. They see those because of his bloodthirst, and his killing intent.

Someone who fought the Juubi's Jin (Two of them) isn't feeling shit from Orochimaru's Killing Intent. Not debatable.

Mmmm, but he is?
When Genyumaru faced Orochimaru, he

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It is obvious that Orochimaru somehow manipulates minds of his victims, because if it was fear only, they wouldn't imagine things they haven't even seen before.

 

[Avinash012]

That kind of attack isn't going to work on a body like Orochimaru's. He might feel a tingle or something of the like, but there is no way these kind of attacks are going to do anything serious to him. Meanwhile Orochimaru can still use more than half of his shown arsenal as they doesn't require arms.

Well I thought Orochimaru's condition and feats are limited to that of Orochimaru that fought Tsunade which is why I though that Minato might be able to win this and I have already admitted that Minato loses if Orochimaru has his p2 feats.

Shunshin requires hand seals IIRC and you're underrating Oro's reaction feats as well

Not like underrating him or anything, as I said above I thought his condition is same as that of Orochimaru that fought Tsunade.As u already know Orochimaru was suffering from different side effects at that time which is why even Tsunade managed to beat that dude and his tanking feats are also not that good.On the other hand Minato is already above Orochimaru interms of reactions and speed and he has SM now,that's why I thought he stands a chance otherwise I wouldn't have debated about this topic.*_*

Sorry for any misunderstandingsZzz

 

[AGoodBoy]

'armless' orochimaru isn't even handicapped. ORochimaru still has a massive arsenal that requires no seals making him near invincible even when armless...everyone else, however...

Orochimaru wins.

 

[genii96]

Oro utterly stomps

 

[Pragmatic]

U have no right to say that ,If u hate my opinion then u don't have to read or post anything.

If u have a proper counter to prove that my comment is terrible then plz provide a good argument then I'll gladly agree with u.

If what you say is stupid as shit he kinda does have the right

remember manda

 

[Avinash012]

If what you say is stupid as shit he kinda does have the right

remember manda

I have seen alot of more stupid comments that were made by fanboys and got +ve responce,my shit is nothing compared to them and he is supposed to say that after reading my reasons.OP said that it is Orochimaru that fought Sannin which is why I thought that Oro is limited to the feats of p1 armless Orochimaru whose tanking feats are terrible and he can't use any jutsu not even summoning jutsu.

Read my other posts or atleast my post in last page of this thread then feel free to say whatever u want.

 

[shelke]

Armless Orochimaru was tanking physical attacks from 4-tailed Naruto. Give Minato Rasangan and he still loses. Killing intent freezes his ass in place and then, Orochimaru eats, chews him, and then spits out the sub-par good.

 

[Takos]

Orochimaru is one of the few ninja who don't need arms to kick ass.
He takes it low difficulty, I'm afraid.

 

[KidGamer65]

Mmmm, but he is?
When Genyumaru faced Orochimaru, he

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, so he couldn't know about Oro's abilities, but when Orochimaru sent on him vision of his death, he saw giant Snake/Dragon swallowing him [

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], [

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].

It is obvious that Orochimaru somehow manipulates minds of his victims, because if it was fear only, they wouldn't imagine things they haven't even seen before.

I can't even begin to explain how little sense this makes. Orochimaru has snake like characteristics. Not surprising that his killing intent caused this guy to imagine a giant snake eating him alive.

Like I said. That is fear and fear alone. Nothing else. The only way you would even come to this conclusion is if you are incorrectly comprehending the manga.

 

[Erebus]

Arm less Oro takes this, I'm pretty sure Minato can't make stuff without his arms to form the jutsu

 

[HNIC]

I said no restrictions for a reason. I mentioned Orochimaru in the Sannin because he was unable to lift or move his hands. As opposed to part 2 where he could move his arms, punching the kyuubi which isn't allowed.

This meaning all jutsu are available, but neither could move or use their arms. If that's unfair, I'd restrict Orochimaru further but this was my initial intention.

Hopefully this cleared any confusion.