[Theory] Arima's IXA, Kaneki's Memories, Anti-Ghoul (RC suppresant) serums

[Agent Phrank]

Just some theories/thoughts on TG
1. Arima's IXA, papercut nostalgia

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Notice the similarities: Fragmented/Striated patterns on IXA and
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chapter 139

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TG JACK chapter 7 (what's 1000-7?)

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chapter 3 TG JACK

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From 7 to V14 (the vault where Arima vs Kaneki).. another number's game.. 21's next? - I'll get back to that later.

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"Between 18 and 21, the Squire was finally ready to become a knight. A ceremony invariantly took place to help the knight overcome his problems. The day before the ceremony, the Squire had to fast and bath himself "to cleanse his sins."

Kaneki is 18 at the beginning of the manga and I believe 19-20 near the middle.He's currently 23 in re:.

Coincidence or could this possibly be analogous to Kaneki's transformation

(from ghoul to CCG) and how Arima's quinque resembles a knight's lance?

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Note: While rereading TG Jack, I noticed that it's not the first time Arima gets cut (and it's on the SAME exact side of his face)
(recall my last thread on this parallel b/w the One-shot and TG)

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And then Ishida reminding us that Arima can and will die:
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hmm... hindsight?

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Last note on TG Jack:

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"Post-event treatment"
It was only mentioned in that panel. Really curious if it has anything to do with Sasaki's treatment
which was planned beforehand. We've seen a lot of tech improvements throughout the manga so it wouldn't be much of a surprise.

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Ishida's classic reflection
Chapter 33 of part 1 and re:

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2. Who will trigger Kaneki's memories?

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Let's cross out People/events/objects that haven't:
Touka, Coffee scent/taste, Hinami(and her reading lessons), those "Black Egg" books, his signature, the leather ghoul mask, Uta (his shop and tattoos too), Yomo, vs Takizawa, Akira, Nishiki, Tsukiyama

My estimates: (In no particular order)
-1. Excessive torture/Near death - During the auction raid, Kanae manage to deal heavy damage unto Sasaki.

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Result: Kaneki's debut in re:

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His subconscious gives us a visit and once again he contemplates his sanity.

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-2. Amon because of their similar nature/disposition (inquisitive personalities- questioning the
relationship between ghouls and humans, "Is it my fault or the worlds'?") and their subtle attempts to
rationalize with eachother. I think it's even more probable now that their roles have switched. (Amon
as a ghoul/Kaneki in the CCG)

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Amon is out there practicing cannabilism; he refuses to eat humans for obvious reasons. Savage Ghoul but an investigator at heart.

-3. (Most likely, IMO) :Souta(the clown) because he was the very last thing on Kaneki's mind prior to dying.

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Counting- 7 (TG Jack) 14 (Arima vs Kaneki) and then

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Kaneki's last words:

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Hindsight?..hmm

-4. Loser/Shooting Star Wing (that cockatiel parakeet), because why not?

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3. Insight on the anti-ghoul serums

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*finger crack*

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"a ghoul retaliated"
Now we know whom/from where Jason acquired these serums.

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and it seems like Tokuga is interested in Mitsuki

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another torture scene incoming

Dr. "not suspicious" Shiba introduced in chapter 1 re: (connections with Kanou?):

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Dr. Shiba (full name hasn't been disclosed) regarding Kakuhou accelerated strength and rc count:

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and then:

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Full-Kakuja Kaneki incoming

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A lot of questions remain- I'll answer another time: Who did Touka visit at the hospital? Where/What happened to Rize?
What's Uta's plan? ̶W̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶F̶e̶m̶m̶e̶ ̶e̶v̶e̶r̶ ̶s̶t̶o̶p̶ ̶p̶o̶s̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶f̶e̶m̶i̶n̶i̶s̶t̶ ̶b̶a̶i̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶r̶e̶a̶d̶s̶?̶ Where's Hide? Who is Souta?
T̶u̶n̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶n̶e̶x̶t̶ ̶t̶i̶m̶e̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶D̶r̶a̶g̶o̶n̶b̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶Z̶

 

[Ambivalence]

Very nice thread, man. Do you have any idea what Souta's counting means? I was puzzled back then, and it seems I didn't even notice it in :re. Is it just ''his thing'' or does it mean something more?

Can't wait to see full kakuja Kaneki.

 

[Agent Phrank]

Very nice thread, man. Do you have any idea what Souta's counting means? I was puzzled back then, and it seems I didn't even notice it in :re. Is it just ''his thing'' or does it mean something more?

Can't wait to see full kakuja Kaneki.

Thanks!
The one doing the counting was Kaneki-(Speech bubbles can get a little confusing since Ishida doesn't use arrows frequently)
The two manga scans I used were from

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check it out to clear any confusion

notice how it begins with "twe..." then "714, 707" (and the V14 in the background)
and then it ends on "21"

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might be alluding to (again, speculating):
7- Minami's death
V14- Kaneki vs Arima
21- Souta revealed as the one who cut the wires (nearly killing Rize)

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The counting comes form the the Jason torturing arc --chapter 60-63

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*crack*

Yamori basically had him count to keep his mind distracted and conscious.

We don't know exactly how much time Kaneki spent with Yamori or for how long he was tortured(maybe 3 to 7 days), but it was enough to condition him to start counting when Arima impaled him.
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1000/7 = 143
143 chapters in TG
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I don't think the counting (or "1000-7") has been mentioned in :re yet but Tokage might reintroduce it. ->Jason learned/tortured from Tokage

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*crack*

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and Souta?
well, he's full of surprises

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[-Punk-]

Very awesome thread bro.

While I think it will be a little of everyone that will bring Kanekis memories back and he will put the puzzle together, I believe Amon will be the last one to do so. I also think(now) that Touka was visiting Hide at the hospital.

The clowns as a whole are a big mistery, looking forward to more of them. No to mention Uta is so damn confusing lol.

 

[Agent Phrank]

Very awesome thread bro.

While I think it will be a little of everyone that will bring Kanekis memories back and he will put the puzzle together, I believe Amon will be the last one to do so. I also think(now) that Touka was visiting Hide at the hospital.

The clowns as a whole are a big mistery, looking forward to more of them. No to mention Uta is so damn confusing lol.

That's a good analogy. If I had to choose who would be the final trigger, definitely that clown

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or the cockatiel

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But I agree that Amon will be another "key"

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For the hospital visit, to me it's either Hide or Yoshimura. There's an equal amount of evidence against and for them, so it's hard to decide between them.

Still, where are they Ishida?!

And Uta is just being Uta aka "tattooed eyes- not a ghoul"

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[Byron123]

If only more people could come up with such great theories

 

[Byron123]

That's a good analogy. If I had to choose who would be the final trigger, definitely that clown

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or the cockatiel

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But I agree that Amon will be another "key"

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For the hospital visit, to me it's either Hide or Yoshimura. There's an equal amount of evidence against and for them, so it's hard to decide between them.

Still, where are they Ishida?!

And Uta is just being Uta aka "tattooed eyes- not a ghoul"

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But wasn't Yoshimura taken by the AT to be used as a base for the development of owl experiments like Seidou?

 

[-Punk-]

Yes Yoshimura was taken by the Aogori, I remember when Eto was talking about using him to create more ghouls.

 

[Agent Phrank]

But wasn't Yoshimura taken by the AT to be used as a base for the development of owl experiments like Seidou?

Yes Yoshimura was taken by the Aogori, I remember when Eto was talking about using him to create more ghouls.

Yes, yes, I had a feeling someone would mention that.
You're both right:

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Even with Kanou's regenerative tank can we really assume that Yoshimura will fully recover?

He went against 5 (extremely commendable in the ghoul world) special class investigators during the Anteiku Raid. Only to be saved by the "other" OEK -> Kakuja Eto.

If we follow the mirroring
Chapter 16:

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Chapter 16 :re

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If we assume that it's Hide, then the question becomes, how did he end up in the hospital?
first thing that comes to mind:

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Kaneki's "Hallunications"

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Again, I might be picking straws here and basing it off the very little screen-time we've been given by Ishida.

which is exactly how he wants it. :busy: :busy: :busy:

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Kanou is probably raising an army of ghouls using Yoshi though

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TL;DR
Ishida=mystery
anyone's guess as to whoever Touka visited is as good as mine

 

[-Punk-]

Yes, yes, I had a feeling someone would mention that.
You're both right:

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Even with Kanou's regenerative tank can we really assume that Yoshimura will fully recover?

He went against 5 (extremely commendable in the ghoul world) special class investigators during the Anteiku Raid. Only to be saved by the "other" OEK -> Kakuja Eto.

If we follow the mirroring
Chapter 16:

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Chapter 16 :re

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If we assume that it's Hide, then the question becomes, how did he end up in the hospital?
first thing that comes to mind:

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Kaneki's "Hallunications"

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Again, I might be picking straws here and basing it off the very little screen-time we've been given by Ishida.

which is exactly how he wants it. :busy: :busy: :busy:

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Kanou is probably raising an army of ghouls using Yoshi though

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TL;DR
Ishida=mystery
anyone's guess as to whoever Touka visited is as good as mine

I figured Yoshimura would still be in the tank, just like Roze was kept hiden during part 1 and as for Hide, Seeing how he actually was part of The CCG I'm assuming they found his buddy after the last events of part one. That's my guess for both of them.