Aren't Scans>Interpretation, or not?

[HNIC]

Something I've noticed quite frequently among NB users, is their constant use of personal interpretation in favor of their argument. If the manga specially states something how can we argue against that? Now, I understand sometimes we need to explain the MULTIPLE (possible) interpretations that can occur, but there is only and that is Kish's word.

Now, unless there is a scan the contradicts a claim, that's something different. But until that is proven, the scan itself should be valid. Instead people will argue for pages over their interpretation of what something meant, or their interpretation of how a match will start off.


I say if you can't show any receipts, the argument is invalid.

 

[The Necromancer]

Example? .

 

[ajpn920]

Example? .

Being alive is greater than being EDO. It was stated by Tobirama and proven by Madara

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[HNIC]

Example? .

If I post an example of someone's post they would think I was attacking them, so I decided not to. Thought this was straightforward in itself.

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

Like people who say itachis yata can be destoyed but kishi stated the oposite

 

[The Necromancer]

If I post an example of someone's post they would think I was attacking them, so I decided not to. Thought this was straightforward in itself.

I mean an example of a scan that people interpret differently than the manga does.

 

[HNIC]

Being alive is greater than being EDO. It was stated by Tobirama and proven by Madara

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This is current issue, but we've seen multiple.

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

If I post an example of someone's post they would think I was attacking them, so I decided not to. Thought this was straightforward in itself.

Post it

I really want to see

 

[ajpn920]

This is current issue, but we've seen multiple.

It was an issue before. Some say that EDO is stronger when Tobirama clearly stated that they are inferior to when they were alive. There are lots of issues though

 

[Waltz]

You mean logical deduction which is the process of reasoning from general statements (premises) to reach a logically certain conclusion.

A scan of Naruto saying he will end the war ≠ Naruto > All opponents in the war
A scan saying "One God was divided into Yin and Yang" ≠ Having Yin + Yang makes you a God.

In terms of pitting characters against one another, all variables/potentials must be considered and hyperbolic statements supported by sufficient feats---a logical conclusion must be reached. A single statement isn't enough:

A scan of Jiraiya saying this [

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] ≠ Jiraiya > Itachi and Kisame together.

A scan of Orochimaru saying Hiruzen knew all the Jutsu of Konoha ≠ Hiruzen knowing every single Jutsu used in Konoha presently.

A statement attempting to infer that Itachi is invincible: Not true since he died.

However I agree on the portion that If statement is not contradicted it remains valid but only for factual documentation but deduction is still required in my opinion:

Yata Mirror is known to negates all offences: Supported canonically and by the Databook

Totsuka no Tsurugi seals anything it pierces: Supported canonically and by the Databook



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[HNIC]

You mean logical deduction which is the process of reasoning from general statements (premises) to reach a logically certain conclusion.

A scan of Naruto saying he will end the war ≠ Naruto > All opponents in the war
A scan saying "One God was divided into Yin and Yang" ≠ Having Yin + Yang makes you a God.

In terms of pitting characters against one another, all variables/potentials must be considered and hyperbolic statements supported by sufficient feats---a logical conclusion must be reached. A single statement isn't enough:

A scan of Jiraiya saying this [

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] ≠ Jiraiya > Itachi and Kisame together.

A scan of Orochimaru saying Hiruzen knew all the Jutsu of Konoha ≠ Hiruzen knowing every single Jutsu used in Konoha presently.

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reading a statement and taking it out of context. There is a difference between "logical deduction" and opposing manga scans itself.

I see what you tried to do there though

 

[KingHashirama]

Just like how people are taking Madara's, "Now I can use my full strength" into Living Madara > Edo Madara... even though they should already very well know that the living Madara is only way Madara can be the jinchuriki.

Hence why I always say we should always look at the context and multiple translations. , unless it is VIZ itself.

 

[-Punk-]

No they're not , most people don't know how to use them & literally call every single thing in the manga a fact , which is not true .

 

[ajpn920]

Just like how people are taking Madara's, "Now I can use my full strength" into Living Madara > Edo Madara... even though they should already very well know that the living Madara is only way Madara can be the jinchuriki.

Hence why I always say we should always look at the context and multiple translations. , unless it is VIZ itself.

EDO Madara was immobilized by Hashi's gates or whatever that is.

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Alive Madara broke it

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If it's still not clear to you that living Madara > EDO Madara then I don't know what to say.

 

[HNIC]

EDO Madara was immobilized by Hashi's gates or whatever that is.

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Alive Madara broke it

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If it's still not clear to you that living Madara > EDO Madara then I don't know what to say.

he says it himself, i don't see the confusion lol

 

[ajpn920]

he says it himself, i don't see the confusion lol

He did not

Just like how people are taking Madara's, "Now I can use my full strength" into Living Madara > Edo Madara

 

[The Necromancer]

No they're not , most people don't know how to use them & literally call every single thing in the manga a fact , which is not true .

Ahem... Madara Rules for example.

 

[Naijakid]

Like how people try to interpret that edo Madara didn't put effort in fighting Hashirama