are you christian or atheist or agnostic or... other?

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apparently religious topics are the norm or whatever here (and maybe not being able to detect satire since i learned i had like 3 dislikes back in jan by sarcastically stating and mocking the morons who legitimately think trump cannot be stumped and and people took it as me being a legitimate trump supporter and not a satirist and disillusioned worthless stain on humanity, but now u know. i goofed by revealing my disillusionment which apparently pissed a couple people off, but that's a story for another time. politics is riddled with semantic boobytraps kno what im sayin)


so, a couple of conditions:
1. don't make this into another boring debate thread. as illogical as X religion sounds or if you seem to despise atheism, avoid attacking the poster and instead question things, unless it's too boring an explanation for you. pointlessly attacking one another will only end in circular debate, so try something new and actually learn about the person/group holding such beliefs
3. if you must cringe, just hit the dislike/neg button instead of going back and forth and wasting your energy to get someone to change their viewpoint. it's not going to happen (and don't take the criticism personally, man up!)
4. i skipped #2 to keep you on your feet and to trigger you
5. don't fit in with any of the above? i can't make a thread title including multiple religions so it's basic as hell, so if you're not in there, speak up! share it in this thread

reason for this is that thought processes and understanding how they came to be (born in a christian family perhaps? tragic life event and turned to X religion? just as sick of the bullshit and find religion to be toxic? you name it, you say why, and how you got to that point) is far more interesting than the typical "my views > yours" shenanigans

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Im closest to a Christian, but I cant 100% fit into any category. I undoubtedly believe there is a god, but some things in the bible are hard to believe. I was agnostic for a little while, but there are some undeniable truths in Christian teachings that bought me back to being a psuedo-Christian. Could never be an atheist though, the big bang theory is the most asinine shít I've ever heard.
 

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scientist/Buddhist. nothing explains everything better than cold hard results/data/research. i believe in the laws of energy/matter and how its relative to the laws of the soul.
 

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did you convert later in your adult life, or were you raised as christian?

i don't really fit anywhere on the spectrum so you can say i'm indifferent, but i do find the majority of religious beliefs fascinating by themselves
why be any of it. Just be you.

It's considered societal "standard" or social norm to have some sort of belief, when you don't need one. Just trust reality.

We don't have to have a belief system. You don't need an ideology or some kind of co dependence on science. You don't need to categorize yourself to fit in anywhere...you're just trying to be you, after all, right?
 
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Im closest to a Christian, but I cant 100% fit into any category. I undoubtedly believe there is a god, but some things in the bible are hard to believe. I was agnostic for a little while, but there are some undeniable truths in Christian teachings that bought me back to being a psuedo-Christian. Could never be an atheist though, the big bang theory is the most asinine shít I've ever heard.
what's your favorite bible passage and why?

scientist/Buddhist. nothing explains everything better than cold hard results/data/research. i believe in the laws of energy/matter and how its relative to the laws of the soul.
interesting

what's your favorite buddhist teaching?

i'm really interested in two truths doctrine, any thoughts on that? it kind of brings me peace, in some ways
 

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why be any of it. Just be you.

It's considered societal "standard" or social norm to have some sort of belief, when you don't need one. Just trust reality.

We don't have to have a belief system. You don't need an ideology or some kind of co dependence on science.
hmm? i've no codependency on the sciences either. i don't need or want a label, if that's what you think i was implying :0

we're ruled by belief systems, not total anarchist ideologies (well, some are) - and i don't think having a belief system is bad, but i don't think not having one is bad either. our brains are automatically wired with categorical thinking on top of that. it's just the nature of things. so for me, this isn't a need to "label" myself for the sake of labeling myself, although it is convenient to do so. i don't know where i personally stand on the matter of religion besides being interested in the psychological aspects of this kind of thing is what i was attempting to say

the nature of reality is a bitter thing for me, though

so you're pretty much an "anything goes" kind of fellow, aren't you? do you have any strong opinion on religion or are you mixed?
 
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What do you call when you're not denying god exist but still refuse to follow him out of personal spite? Whatever that is it's me.

scientist/Buddhist. nothing explains everything better than cold hard results/data/research. i believe in the laws of energy/matter and how its relative to the laws of the soul.
Me too. My only problem with relative is that once you go a step above into quantum mechanics, the complex studies and ridiculous theories that is beyond human comprehension to the point I'd argue we better off just sticking to religion.lol
 
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hmm? i've no codependency on the sciences either. i don't need or want a label, if that's what you think i was implying :0

we're ruled by belief systems, not total anarchist ideologies (well, some are) - and i don't think having a belief system is bad, but i don't think not having one is bad either. our brains are automatically wired with categorical thinking on top of that. it's just the nature of things. for me, this isn't a need to "label" myself for the sake of labeling myself, although it is convenient to do so. i don't know where i personally stand on the matter of religion besides the interest in psychological aspects of this kind of thing is what i was attempting to say

the nature of reality is a bitter thing for me, though

so you're pretty much an "anything goes" kind of fellow, aren't you? do you have any strong opinion on religion or are you mixed?
I have no opinion on religion, other than the fact that it's imagined. Reality is pretty exact based.

Religion is kind of not much of an interest to me.The world doesn't revolve around religion.

And we're not all ruled by belief systems. Kind of not true about the wiring part...maybe preprogrammed to think that way.
 
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warning: pretentious babble, beware
I have no opinion on religion, other than the fact that it's imagined. Reality is pretty exact based.

Religion is kind of not much of an interest to me.The world doesn't revolve around religion.

And we're not all ruled by belief systems. Kind of not true about the wiring part...maybe preprogrammed to think that way.
hmmmm..

elaborate on what you tag as 'reality' for a sec because i'm a bit lost on what 'reality' is to you--is it scientific data, acknowledging that we should be "free flowing spirits" and not be bogged down by beliefs themselves? non-beliefs? you've piqued my interest. it sounds like you're sort of a naturalist and an analytical thinker above all else? (yes, i know you have a distaste for labels but it's easier to simplify and see where you're coming from by doing this - i.e. categorical thinking. you can't be nothing, or you'll confuse my brain, etc. everyone holds onto something even if it's not religion) like, i don't really understand this part so you're gonna have to show me since i'd rly like to know :p

and, no, the world isn't ruled by religion - i agree. however, it's pretty ingrained in humanity and across various cultures, no? much like anything else is depending on whatever society we happen to examine, imo. that's what i was pinpointing

and i believe we are 'ruled' by belief systems - which are extremely diverse (look at this thread). such as moral codes, philosophies (like the one you're currently showing and the one i happen to show myself! or my blatant confusion), religion itself, etc. and it doesn't just apply to religion, i agree there. there's really no limit on this since there's an overwhelming amount of views in this world that we happen to carry (and some overlap, such as ethics and religion for the religious, or some views ruled distinctly by a moral code that's entirely separate from the typical philosophies and religions).

all of the above paragraph is why i don't think we're built to be exceptionally rational beings (or else we'd wake up and carve out any belief system that world's ever seen and get rid of, you know, binary thinking), which is why i believe we frequently hold categorical positions no matter how hard we try to get out of that narrow mindset (i mean, i see where you're coming from, and i find myself getting miffed about it myself. but this is just my conclusion since the brain has so many complex processes we've yet to grasp, although there are some answers)

now that i've shared my pov, share yours-

what does the world revolve around for you? one thing or many? and what would those things happen to be? acceptance? strong ethics? go go go
 
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