Are You an Empiricist or a Rationalist?

[Legacy of Hatred]

Empiricists believe all ideas come from and can be broken down into sensory experience (i.e. the idea of a red car comes from the sensory experience of a car and the color red).

Rationalists believe ideas come from self-evident truths and reasoning akin to four fundamental axioms (axioms are truths immune to hyperbolic doubt(hyperbolic doubt is the ability to doubt anything)),
(i.e. 1. I think, therefore I exist,
even if I was being deceived into believing I am thinking, it still stands that before anything can happen to me, I must first exist, so the act of being deceived yet proves my existence
2. Everything we can clearly and distinctly understand must be true
3. God exists as a PKG (All powerful, all knowing, and all good)
4. There exist bodies, in which there extensions are in a state of motion or rest).

Which are you?

 

[Supermacaquecool]

Well...my nature is to be an empiricist...but someday I'll study logic for good!

 

[Legacy of Hatred]

That's great! I've studied logic the past year and it is very interesting to see how people came up with the way we think now.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

Empiricism and Rationalism each have their good points and areas of specialties. The Axioms of Rationalism are perfect in Mathematics, Physics, and Chemistry, while the sensory information we pick up in Empiricism are used in Biology, Chemistry, Psychology, and, well, I suppose anywhere really.

I'm more of an Empiricist, because there are few axioms out there, and those that we know have already been instrumental in our advancement, whereas there are still loads and loads of empirical evidence out there we need to find in order to understand more truths.

I disagree with "axiom" number three, as we have presence of established evils in this universe, but that's a thread for another debate I suppose Lol

 

[Avery Namikaze]

I'm a Rationalist EXCEPT I don't believe in god because there is no solid proof of his existence.

Edit: There are exceptions to each, I use rationality in my Psychology major yet most psychologists would be considered Empiricists.

 

[Legacy of Hatred]

I disagree with "axiom" number three, as we have presence of established evils in this universe, but that's a thread for another debate I suppose Lol

My fault, Descartes, the philosopher who introduced the axioms wrote three documents, called his "Meditations" where he explains his reasoning for establishing that you cannot doubt the existence of God as a PKG. As far as I can recall, it had something to do with God, by logical and religiously unbiased definition, is a being by which nothing greater can be conceived, but since it is greater to exist in reality, anything in reality is greater than anything you can conceive in your mind (for example, thinking about the paycheck you will get doesn't compare to when you actually have the money in your pocket), so anything in reality is greater than a God that can only be mentally conceived, that being said, God, by definition, must exist. Lol but like you said, that's for another thread.

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

True Awareness is the product of both of these combined as a single and complete state of mind.

 

[Prime Rib]

i believe in god and accept jesus christ as my lord and savior... hes salvation for everyone

 

[Ludicrous]

Empiricist vs Rationalist reminds me of Plutonic vs Aristotle's ideas. I'm more of a Empiricist.

 

[Kenotthib]

I'm a multitude of things nowadays.

 

[Third Sage]

A bit of both, I guess.