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All in all, I am in support of gay marriage. Below, I shall elaborate on why:

From the get-go, I want to emphasize that many bodies of research, almost uniformly, report findings of no notable differences between children reared by heterosexual parents and those reared by lesbian and gay parents. Essentially, a great deal of research finds that lesbian and gay parents can be just as competent and effective as heterosexual parents.

Yes, from erotic relationships to regular academia, there are differences, however, not necessarily bad ones.
People who may fear that children raised in homosexual relationships will inevitably also deem themselves gay isn't so widespread isn't so absolute. Many are content with merely experimenting with different dynamics. Honestly, I think that the willingness to at least try such a variation of intimate relationships can promote better mental health. Why? Simply look to current "closeted" individuals and understand that there are two prevalent challenges for them, which can lead to a profound amount of stress amongst other issues. (1) Closeted individuals are simply repressing their innermost feelings and thus, their vary nature. In conforming to biased and out-dated social norms, the pressure they feel can be quite intolerable. (2) It's also possible that children, teenagers, and even adults can go for great stretches of their life without even realizing that they may be homosexual. The unknowingness can distort one's perception of both themselves and those within their vicinity. Certainly, excessive stress isn't good and being raised in lesbian-headed environments at least affords children with the ability to explore their sexuality in a meaningful manner. Many closeted youths commit suicide annually, largely due to social pressure, less homophobic mentalities could drastically decrease the overall, annual statistics.

Children's self-esteem and psychological well-being is a heavily researched domain. What research reports is that by and large, children of homosexual parents and children of heterosexual families are equally prone to such things as anxiety, depression, and self-esteem. The notion of merely minute differences between the two seemingly vastly different family backgrounds is actually often in favor of homosexual parentage, as statistics for psychological well-being and academics showcase. To be more specific, the minute differences in favor of homosexual families that were reported via research came from directing interviewing children, parents' reports, and solicit evaluations from teachers. Indeed, one could say that children of homosexual parents are remarkably resilient upon taking into account the high likelihood of them being teased, at various points in their lives, for simply having lesbian or gay parents. Fortitude is integral to human nature.

At this time, I'd also like to point out that lesbian couples, in some studies, were found to be more lax than heterosexual mothers in regards to their children engaging in gender "appropriate" activities and play. In at least America, society has been gradually moving forward on gender equality and the impact it has on both the workplace and household. Currently, men dominate the paid workplace still to this day. In maintaining the mentality of "breadwinner" households, women are still- most notably those of low socioeconomic- cast into position of dependency upon their masculine spouses. In being relegated to oftentimes the domestic sphere of influence, women also happen to be the most active and invested in early infantile care and what not. The importance in breaking down the paradigm of gender appropriate roles is that what a lot of statistics support is that families are far better off having both the husband and wife equally invested in nurturing their children. Homosexual spouses have a tendency to maintain better levels of activity with their children's growth, in terms of the individual impact of both parents. Again, it should be emphasized that the research predominately supports the notion that sexual preference does not, to any significant measure, impact parent-child relationships and their overall cognitive and psychological well-being in any negative aspect, when observing various components that society necessitates.

Now, what should also be stressed is that not everything is so black and white. Bias is something that exists all around, even when it doesn't seem entirely evident. Examples with relevance can be found when utilizing insight into such people as Paul Cameron and Wardle. Both men had significant impact on the discourse of homosexuality and in a few cases, their input was accepted by legislators in various states. As it turns out, at least on the account of Paul Cameron and what he purported, a great deal of the supposed research that decried homosexual parentage was manipulated, so much so that he was expelled from the American Psychological Association and denounced by the American Sociological Association for willfully misinterpreting research. Much of what Wardle reported happened to come from Cameron's work.

It's obvious that many people, not just in America but internationally disapprove of homosexuality. The question is, why?

I, personally, feel that people do not choose to be lesbian or gay. Imagine being in a slew of heterosexual relationships and then just suddenly, whimsically attempting to participate in a homosexual relationship. I seriously doubt anyone, barring bisexuals, can just casually assume such social bonds. I also don't think that homosexuals appreciate the social stigma they get, yet that should highlight that from an individual perspective, coming out of the closet is necessary. So, the next issue is whether or not we, as fellow citizens, have the right to infringe upon the human rights of our social peers?

If data collected from a plethora of sources demonstrate that homosexual families have merely minor differences in relation to heterosexual families.. what's the big deal? Regardless of homosexuality or heterosexuality, it all ends up being about intimate feelings from one person to another, and vice versa. Love is a fundamental component of human nature and certainly civilization. At what point can we just callously revoke such crucial aspects of our being? Let's be more mindful. I'm not requesting that homosexuals are granted more privileges than heterosexuals, just equal rights between them.

In closing, just because there are differences does not mean that there are deficiencies.



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You clearly didn't read my two threads, but then, let me put it here.

Essencial knowledge
For this thread, there are somethings that need to be known. I'll explain everything. If you know it, you can skip this part, but don't post anything that goes against these concepts.
- Respect and criticism: To be respected is a right of every citizen, it is a duty of everybody to respect the differences between the individuals. Criticism is different from disrespect. One can criticize anything(to criticize is to make an analysis of something using logic, evidences and facts to suport some idea), as long as he/she keeps it respectful. Criticism is part of our freedom of speech.

- Homophobia: To hate, to discriminate, to have the desire to segregate or harm(in any way) an homossexual for the very reason that the person is homossexual.

Criticism
It's obvious that the homossexuals deserve the same rights as the other citizens. The best way for people to live together is a, ideal democracy, in which the differences are respected by each citizen and by the law: despite the differences, the law and the government don't consider some better than others because some characteristic.(This is an ideal democracy, of course things aren't exactly like that, but it's the closest we can get).
All citizens having the same rights(equality of rights) is different, of course, from socialism, which tries to equal different beings, ignoring the differences. So, homossexuals are citizens, just like everybody else.

However, blind moralists, who claim to be fighting for the homossexuals to have the same rights, make stupid mistakes such as the trial to give the homossexuals privileges. which for some reason they call equality. What is the evidence that these people try to fight for these privileges?
The evidences are that they try to make the homossexuals untouchable: People must agree with homossexualism(to respect and to accept is different from to agree, as with the first 2. people will acknowledge and respect the different characteristics, ideas and behaviors, but they wom't necessarily agree with it.), people must never critize homossexualism or homossexuals, homossexuals must have rights to secure these, having more rights than the other citizens.
These measures are obviously a trial to put the homossexuals above the other citizens, as not only they will have more rights, but also the rest of the population will lose part of their freedom of speech(they cannot disagree with homossexualism and they can't critize it). Of course, now I'll give exemples:

Situation 1:
"-man, I'm proud to be homossexual
-way to go, dude"
vs
"-man, I'm proud to be white/straight
- YOU HOMOPHOBIC DOUCHEBAG"

Situation 2:
*Straight couple making out on the streets, in a very intense way*
"- Man, look at them, they're almost eating each other, so disrespectful
- Indeed. It's ok to kiss outside, but they're almost having ***, this bothers other people. Get a room"
vs
*Homossexual couple making out on the streets, in a very intense way*
"- Man, look at them, they're almost eating each other, so disrespectful. It's ok to kiss outside, but they're almost having ***, this bothers other people. Get a room
- JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE GAY, RIGHT??!!!
- No, it's the way...
- YOU HOMOPHOBIC DOUCHEBAG!!!"

The proud person of the situation 1 was wrongly considered homophobic.To be proud of a characteristc of yours is not a prejudice, is not a trial of discrimination against the "oposite group". It doesn't fit the concepts I've mentioned.
The same happened in situation 2: The guy was bothered not because the couple was homossexual, but it was because their way of kissing. As the guy explained, it bothers people, so, as much as we're free, our freedom is limited to the point that we can't make things disrespectful to other citizens. So, it was not homophobia(this, howevever, is not to takeaway people's rights. As everybody must be equaly respect, you can't disrespect people if you want respect, this is the limitation of freedom, which brings stability). However, many blind moralists wrongly consider these situations as homophobic situations.


Their excuse is that homossexuals are the opressed minority, therefore they need these measures. This is an obvious mistake: Giving privileges will only increase the cicle of hatred between the 2 groups, as the group without the privileges will feel "opressed", "decreased", and they will blaim the group with privileges. This,as I said, will increase the cicle of hatred, which will cause many fights. This is why it is a mistake, and it is a mistake that was made in the past, as in the past, some groups of society used to have many more rights than the population. This caused many of the fights and revolutions, which, different for the current actions, were movements to achieve equality of rights. The current behavior is the one in which there is a trial to give the privileges as some form of revenge or compensation, which, as I explained, will only cause more problems.

You must have missed my apology to you and two other members in the thread so I will let a majority of what I just read go as I don't find much wrong with it. There are, however subtle differences in your examples. Take a look at the bold parts and I will try to make my case:

-This is a few and you can't catorgorize the whole gay community for what some people try to do. That's like me generalizing all heterosexuals as against homosexuality because a few are very outspoken of it.

-Situation 2 plays out a little differently.

Situation 2:
*Straight couple making out on the streets, in a very intense way*
"- Man, look at them, they're almost eating each other, so disrespectful
- Indeed. It's ok to kiss outside, but they're almost having ***, this bothers other people. Get a room"
vs
*Homossexual couple making out on the streets, in a very intense way*
"- Man, look at them, they're almost eating each other, so disrespectful. It's ok to kiss outside, but they're almost having ***, this bothers other people. Get a room Queer or F*gg*Ts!
- JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE GAY, RIGHT??!!!

This is what happens more often than not when the case of scenario 2 is played out. They are called names and heckled. Yes it is abit obscene as it would be for a heterosexaul couple. But the difference lies in the approach. Where someone might shout "Get A room!" to the herto couple it quickly becomes "Get a room Fa**ot" To gay couples. I have seen this a lot!

Also like everything you have to look outside the media who can easily put the wrong spin on a submject. The LGBT do not go out of their way to oppress hetrosexual lifestyle nor do they disapprove or hate it. In fact they do many things and ask heterosexual men and women who are genuinly trying to understand the gay plight.

Like segrigation of the early 50's and 60's You had people like Martin Luther King Jr who went about trying to obtain equal rights the positive and patient way and those like the Black Panthers who use force.

You gernalize "Moralists" as something all pro gay rights advocates condone and practice and this is just not true. Not every Moralist is a hetero hating rights overbaring loud mouth. You don't hear about all the positive things they do because it is not drama nor newsworthy.
 

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All in all, I am in support of gay marriage. Below, I shall elaborate on why:

From the get-go, I want to emphasize that many bodies of research, almost uniformly, report findings of no notable differences between children reared by heterosexual parents and those reared by lesbian and gay parents. Essentially, a great deal of research finds that lesbian and gay parents can be just as competent and effective as heterosexual parents.

Yes, from erotic relationships to regular academia, there are differences, however, not necessarily bad ones.
People who may fear that children raised in homosexual relationships will inevitably also deem themselves gay isn't so widespread isn't so absolute. Many are content with merely experimenting with different dynamics. Honestly, I think that the willingness to at least try such a variation of intimate relationships can promote better mental health. Why? Simply look to current "closeted" individuals and understand that there are two prevalent challenges for them, which can lead to a profound amount of stress amongst other issues. (1) Closeted individuals are simply repressing their innermost feelings and thus, their vary nature. In conforming to biased and out-dated social norms, the pressure they feel can be quite intolerable. (2) It's also possible that children, teenagers, and even adults can go for great stretches of their life without even realizing that they may be homosexual. The unknowingness can distort one's perception of both themselves and those within their vicinity. Certainly, excessive stress isn't good and being raised in lesbian-headed environments at least affords children with the ability to explore their sexuality in a meaningful manner. Many closeted youths commit suicide annually, largely due to social pressure, less homophobic mentalities could drastically decrease the overall, annual statistics.

Children's self-esteem and psychological well-being is a heavily researched domain. What research reports is that by and large, children of homosexual parents and children of heterosexual families are equally prone to such things as anxiety, depression, and self-esteem. The notion of merely minute differences between the two seemingly vastly different family backgrounds is actually often in favor of homosexual parentage, as statistics for psychological well-being and academics showcase. To be more specific, the minute differences in favor of homosexual families that were reported via research came from directing interviewing children, parents' reports, and solicit evaluations from teachers. Indeed, one could say that children of homosexual parents are remarkably resilient upon taking into account the high likelihood of them being teased, at various points in their lives, for simply having lesbian or gay parents. Fortitude is integral to human nature.

At this time, I'd also like to point out that lesbian couples, in some studies, were found to be more lax than heterosexual mothers in regards to their children engaging in gender "appropriate" activities and play. In at least America, society has been gradually moving forward on gender equality and the impact it has on both the workplace and household. Currently, men dominate the paid workplace still to this day. In maintaining the mentality of "breadwinner" households, women are still- most notably those of low socioeconomic- cast into position of dependency upon their masculine spouses. In being relegated to oftentimes the domestic sphere of influence, women also happen to be the most active and invested in early infantile care and what not. The importance in breaking down the paradigm of gender appropriate roles is that what a lot of statistics support is that families are far better off having both the husband and wife equally invested in nurturing their children. Homosexual spouses have a tendency to maintain better levels of activity with their children's growth, in terms of the individual impact of both parents. Again, it should be emphasized that the research predominately supports the notion that sexual preference does not, to any significant measure, impact parent-child relationships and their overall cognitive and psychological well-being in any negative aspect, when observing various components that society necessitates.

Now, what should also be stressed is that not everything is so black and white. Bias is something that exists all around, even when it doesn't seem entirely evident. Examples with relevance can be found when utilizing insight into such people as Paul Cameron and Wardle. Both men had significant impact on the discourse of homosexuality and in a few cases, their input was accepted by legislators in various states. As it turns out, at least on the account of Paul Cameron and what he purported, a great deal of the supposed research that decried homosexual parentage was manipulated, so much so that he was expelled from the American Psychological Association and denounced by the American Sociological Association for willfully misinterpreting research. Much of what Wardle reported happened to come from Cameron's work.

It's obvious that many people, not just in America but internationally disapprove of homosexuality. The question is, why?

I, personally, feel that people do not choose to be lesbian or gay. Imagine being in a slew of heterosexual relationships and then just suddenly, whimsically attempting to participate in a homosexual relationship. I seriously doubt anyone, barring bisexuals, can just casually assume such social bonds. I also don't think that homosexuals appreciate the social stigma they get, yet that should highlight that from an individual perspective, coming out of the closet is necessary. So, the next issue is whether or not we, as fellow citizens, have the right to infringe upon the human rights of our social peers?

If data collected from a plethora of sources demonstrate that homosexual families have merely minor differences in relation to heterosexual families.. what's the big deal? Regardless of homosexuality or heterosexuality, it all ends up being about intimate feelings from one person to another, and vice versa. Love is a fundamental component of human nature and certainly civilization. At what point can we just callously revoke such crucial aspects of our being? Let's be more mindful. I'm not requesting that homosexuals are granted more privileges than heterosexuals, just equal rights between them.

In closing, just because there are differences does not mean that there are deficiencies.



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This is my one and only post for this specific thread. You can quote me, but I won't respond.

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This was absolutely beautiful.
Especially loved the bolded part.
 

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You must have missed my apology to you and two other members in the thread so I will let a majority of what I just read go as I don't find much wrong with it. There are, however subtle differences in your examples. Take a look at the bold parts and I will try to make my case:

-This is a few and you can't catorgorize the whole gay community for what some people try to do. That's like me generalizing all heterosexuals as against homosexuality because a few are very outspoken of it.

-Situation 2 plays out a little differently.

Situation 2:
*Straight couple making out on the streets, in a very intense way*
"- Man, look at them, they're almost eating each other, so disrespectful
- Indeed. It's ok to kiss outside, but they're almost having ***, this bothers other people. Get a room"
vs
*Homossexual couple making out on the streets, in a very intense way*
"- Man, look at them, they're almost eating each other, so disrespectful. It's ok to kiss outside, but they're almost having ***, this bothers other people. Get a room Queer or F*gg*Ts!
- JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE GAY, RIGHT??!!!

This is what happens more often than not when the case of scenario 2 is played out. They are called names and heckled. Yes it is abit obscene as it would be for a heterosexaul couple. But the difference lies in the approach. Where someone might shout "Get A room!" to the herto couple it quickly becomes "Get a room Fa**ot" To gay couples. I have seen this a lot!

Also like everything you have to look outside the media who can easily put the wrong spin on a submject. The LGBT do not go out of their way to oppress hetrosexual lifestyle nor do they disapprove or hate it. In fact they do many things and ask heterosexual men and women who are genuinly trying to understand the gay plight.

Like segrigation of the early 50's and 60's You had people like Martin Luther King Jr who went about trying to obtain equal rights the positive and patient way and those like the Black Panthers who use force.

You gernalize "Moralists" as something all pro gay rights advocates condone and practice and this is just not true. Not every Moralist is a hetero hating rights overbaring loud mouth. You don't hear about all the positive things they do because it is not drama nor newsworthy.

Oh, I didn't see that. I'm sorry.

Bold part
1- I'm not saying all gay pro rights, or all gay community do that. I'm not saying that. However, there are many, and I mean it, many people who suport what I described. In my country, many people, maybe most of the population think like this. And the media here, they suport this behavior. That's why I complain about it. As I said, they're building a time bomb, they're increasing the cicle of hatred and trying to cut some rights of the population, so I won't accept that.

However, there are many good gays, that know how to fight, that know what to do, that think in them and in society at the same time. These people deserve respect.

2- The situation you described, yeah, it happens. However, it's understanble sometimes. This situation is a disrespect to others, and some people might not handle disrespect very well,and they get angry, so they insult the "couple".
The same happens for straigth couples: "Get a room, this is not a whorehouse, jackasses".
I'm not saying it's right, but it's understandable and it happens to both".
 

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Where in the bible does it say he's against it?

So just because YOUR religion tells you it's wrong... other people with other beliefs shouldn't be able to marry the ones they love? :erm:

To be frank with you: because of reality. Open spoiler to see me elaborate.

OK, understand this. It's not like my religion is true for me, yours is true for you, and everyone's is true for themselves. That is simply not possible. To be more specific, there either IS a God, or there IS NOT A God. There is no middle ground or comprise on that, by the law of excluded middle. And the answer to that question determines everything. Quite Literally.

From time, to morals, to emotions, to spirituality, to purpose, to evolution, to every and anything. In regards to homosexuality, If God exists then then those who behave in it are in sin, and unless they repent are doomed to an eternity of Hell. Because I (and God for that matter, 2 Peter 3:9) don't want anyone to suffer an eternity in Hell, and because it is commanded in several places (Heb 12:14 for example), it is any Christian's duty, and hopefully desire, to help his fellow man avoid the worst punishment possible, due to another's perfect Sacrifice Who took our place (Heb 10:12-14). There will be Christians who do not get to go to heaven because they chose not to let their light shine among men (Matt 25:14-30). Ask yourself, how could a Christian knowingly allow another to go to Hell?

And even if one is not trying to convert a homosexual, that doesn't mean that the Christian should conform. The truth should still be spoken boldly (Eph 3:8-12), though with love (Eph 4:15).

Marriage is of Biblical origin (Gen 2:22-25). Frankly, no man has the right to change what God defined. It would be one thing if gay couples just lived together under whatever, or even no, ordinance they choose (not saying that is right). But they cannot, nor can we, change marriage- the joining of a man and a woman. On a side note, even if a 2 men/women are "married", they are married in mans eyes solely, but in God's eyes are only in a sinful arrangement, not marriage. One a side not for the side note, previous civilizations that practiced gay lifestyles didn't call it marriage, they just did it (to my knowledge).


In summary:
-Either God is real, or He is not.
-If He is, then what He says about homosexuality stands, otherwise, it falls.
-As a believer in God, I am obliged and commanded to plant the seed.
-In specific regards to marriage, if God is real, no man can change what he instituted.

Hopefully I represented my position well. If you respond to this, I will have to respond late, as I am ridiculously backed up on quite a lot of work I need to accomplish.
 

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Oh, I didn't see that. I'm sorry.

Bold part
1- I'm not saying all gay pro rights, or all gay community do that. I'm not saying that. However, there are many, and I mean it, many people who suport what I described. In my country, many people, maybe most of the population think like this. And the media here, they suport this behavior. That's why I complain about it. As I said, they're building a time bomb, they're increasing the cicle of hatred and trying to cut some rights of the population, so I won't accept that.

However, there are many good gays, that know how to fight, that know what to do, that think in them and in society at the same time. These people deserve respect.

2- The situation you described, yeah, it happens. However, it's understanble sometimes. This situation is a disrespect to others, and some people might not handle disrespect very well,and they get angry, so they insult the "couple".
The same happens for straigth couples: "Get a room, this is not a whorehouse, jackasses".
I'm not saying it's right, but it's understandable and it happens to both".

We agree at last. I have nothing to oppose your above statement as you are absolutely correct. This is why I enjoy debating with you Wolfus. Your rebuttals are always engaging and entertaining to debate. Which helps me understand your views better. XD

Plus rep dude. You've earned it XD
 

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We agree at last. I have nothing to oppose your above statement as you are absolutely correct. This is why I enjoy debating with you Wolfus. Your rebuttals are always engaging and entertaining to debate. Which helps me understand your views better. XD

Plus rep dude. You've earned it XD

Thank you. Have I debated with you before? I'm sorry, I don't remember, but maybe it's because you had some different avatar, and I have this bad mood of recalling people based on their avatars.
Either way, yeah, I'm gald we achieved something. That's nice. You earned plus rep to you, as you ddin't state your opinions like fact and everything. That's good.
 

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Thank you. Have I debated with you before? I'm sorry, I don't remember, but maybe it's because you had some different avatar, and I have this bad mood of recalling people based on their avatars.
Either way, yeah, I'm gald we achieved something. That's nice. You earned plus rep to you, as you ddin't state your opinions like fact and everything. That's good.

yes I recently changed my Ava so it's ok if you didn't remember.

And yeah I can't really use my experience and call it fact as these types of situations vary from household to household.
 

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I do lean more towards the "I don't think it's right" side of the argument.
But as long as they're not rubbing it in my face, (maybe the wrong expression), I see no reason why 2 people shouldn't be happy. regardless of gender.
Keep it away from me, and I couldn't care less.
 
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I know this subject has been talked about A LOT, I know okay :O. I would just like to know what my fellow NB members think of this.. are you against or for gay marriage? And why? :heh:

Ofcourse I am, got hundred reasons.
 

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I'm not against it and I have no issues with gay people - what they do behind closed doors is their business. The only thing I'm against is adoption - a child should have a mum and a dad. Someone please think of the children!
 

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I'm not against it but I am against the media glorifying it, making it seem as though being gay is a blessing from God. Any celebrity who comes out the closet and says their gay automatically becomes more famous. If a celebrity comes out and says their a christian. It almost like keep that too yourself.
 

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Being homophobic is just another word over being an *******. Homosexuality has been been documented in about 1500 species, whereas homophobia has been found in one.

Frankly, being against someone getting married when it doesn't actually affect you is beyond ridiculous. In the end, why should anyone give a f*ck whether people get married or not, in the end, it won't change a damn thing in most cases.​
 

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If two humans genuinly love each other regardless of their gender or sexuality I don't see what there is to dislike about it. If people are willing to stay together who are we to be against it? u_u
 
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If two humans genuinly love each other regardless of their gender or sexuality I don't see what there is to dislike about it. If people are willing to stay together who are we to be against it? u_u
-Cuz dey can't reproduce and every result of intercorse must result with breeding
-Cuz old books say So and Everyone shall believe those books in the same way
-Cuz it is suppose to be disgusting
-Cuz ppl dont born dat way it should matter since humans stay the way they born
-Cuz it is somehow other people's concern who loves, lives and have *** with even though it does not harm anyone
-Cuz society gonna change how can society change in a specie like humanity?
-Cuz gays never existed before even if they did
-Cuz people are sick if they are gay even though nothing suggests so
 

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As long as it doesn't concern me i don't and nor should care about what others do, it is their life afterall. Unless the moment is opportune.
 

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My feelings on the subject:

Gay guys=Meh. Do whatever you want. More p*ssy for me. :)

Lesbians=Eh. Hot, but less p*ssy for me. :(

Bi Chicks=Jackpot motherf*cker. =D


Seriously though, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but don't screw with other people's rights, because then, you may see yourself as some kind of "moral guardian", but you're just a douche.
 

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I'm going to be honest, when I was younger.. I was a major homophobe. Though, as the years pass and I meet more people who are homosexual, friends and family alike, my view on this matter has dramatically changed. People are entitled to do whatever they need to to achieve happiness in their life, as long as it's ethical and within reason. I don't see the problem with gay marriage, and I don't see the problem with a gay married couple adopting either. I guess it all boils down to the morals and self righteousness of said person(s).
 

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No. I'm not really fond of marriage itself; I feel like it doesn't add anything to the relationship. If people are in love, they're in love. The essence of marriage is not to reproduce, which is the only argument I see from a religious stand point. Marriage is for anyone, not just a man and a woman. However I, a gay person myself, don't think I'll get married.

However I find some of the arguments here about the upbringing of a child in a homosexual family to be interesting. For example, I feel like a gay couple - one composed of two males - raising a daughter can not properly raise her; there's certain things a man can't teach a woman. The daughter would need a stable female figure in her life. And vice versa for opposite genders and whatnot.
 
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No. I'm not really fond of marriage itself; I feel like it doesn't add anything to the relationship. If people are in love, they're in love. The essence of marriage is not to reproduce, which is the only argument I see from a religious stand point. Marriage is for anyone, not just a man and a woman. However I, a gay person myself, don't think I'll get married.

However I find some of the arguments here about the upbringing of a child in a homosexual family to be interesting. For example, I feel like a gay couple - one composed of two males - raising a daughter can not properly raise her; there's certain things a man can't teach a woman. The daughter would need a stable female figure in her life. And vice versa for opposite genders and whatnot.

That doesn't really matter as though there are straight couples who divorce and the father takes care of the daughter and their relationship turns out just fine.

Wasn't Drew Barrymore (or w/e) raised by a male gay couple? Not too certain
 
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