Are these not the traitors of Uchiha?

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Madara: Raged war on Konoha (Which included the Uchiha), plus I doubt Obito would just one day wake up and say, "Hey I'm gonna go kill the Uchiha."
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Wanted the Uchiha dead
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Itachi: The one who betrayed the Clan for the corrupted leaders. :(


Sasuke: Attacking Konoha..
 

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Yep but they act so proud to be Uchiha. Sasuke is not though because they were gonna attack it anyway!
 

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But the Uchiha were going to attack Konoha themselves...

So Sasuke isn't.
 

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Maybe only Obito, but I can see the others' points.
 

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Madara: I thought everyone had the same mentality as Madara but they were to scared to go along with it

Obito: I have no idea were Obitos hate for the clan comes from

Itachi: Totally a traitor

Sasuke: The only non traitor, beating konoha in the name of the uchiha which is what they all wanted
 

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didnt hashi n tobirama said uchihas are filled with love thus they turn evil ..but itachi did not turn he protcted the ones he felt were innocent
 

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Ah, but you see what is the term "traitor" amung the Uchiha? The Uchiha clan as a whole were mostly traitors. Traitors to the Leaf, as they were planning a Coup d'état. Madara was rejected by his clan, and his ego caused his downfall, so I could agree he was a traitor. Obito was betrayed and brainwashed by Madara, he cant be called a "traitor" exactly. Itachi was simply a hero, without him the Uchiha clan would have all been dubbed traitors. Sasuke is an avenger, torn between the long-term struggle between Madara, the Uchiha, and the leaf Elders; he also cant be dubbed a "traitor".

Plus lets not get into the whole "the more emotional an Uchiha gets, the stronger they get", as that can over-complicate this discussion.
 

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Obito doesn't really hate the clan
It's all really just part of his plan
 

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But the Uchiha were going to attack Konoha themselves...

So Sasuke isn't.
ha , where did they state they were gonna attack Konoha? ;x Fugaku could've done it anytime he wanted.. ^_^. They were against the people oppressing them aka the corrupted leaders

Yep but they act so proud to be Uchiha. Sasuke is not though because they were gonna attack it anyway!
Bro.. they weren't gonna attack the village.. They were doing a Coupde'tate which is overthrowing of the government. However, the leaders themselves were idiots and didn't try to talk it out first.

Madara: I thought everyone had the same mentality as Madara but they were to scared to go along with it

Obito: I have no idea were Obitos hate for the clan comes from

Itachi: Totally a traitor

Sasuke: The only non traitor, beating konoha in the name of the uchiha which is what they all wanted
Uchiha wanted to overthrow the government, not the destroy the village.. lol.
didnt hashi n tobirama said uchihas are filled with love thus they turn evil ..but itachi did not turn he protcted the ones he felt were innocent
He only protected the one he loved aka Sasuke.
Ah, but you see what is the term "traitor" amung the Uchiha? The Uchiha clan as a whole were mostly traitors. Traitors to the Leaf, as they were planning a Coup d'état. Madara was rejected by his clan, and his ego caused his downfall, so I could agree he was a traitor. Obito was betrayed and brainwashed by Madara, he cant be called a "traitor" exactly. Itachi was simply a hero, without him the Uchiha clan would have all been dubbed traitors. Sasuke is an avenger, torn between the long-term struggle between Madara, the Uchiha, and the leaf Elders; he also cant be dubbed a "traitor".

Plus lets not get into the whole "the more emotional an Uchiha gets, the stronger they get", as that can over-complicate this discussion.
:D good to see you actually want a discussion :D

Sorry sir, Konoha betrayed the Uchiha. By Konoha I'm referring to its leaders. Who put the Uchiha (co-founders of Konoha) in a corner? oh yes the leaders. Who put the blame of everything about the Kyuubi attack on the Uchiha? oh yes the leaders.

At this point, Uchiha had the right to coup against the government. Uchiha protected the village, that is a fact even Hiruzen acknowledges. Fugaku could've gone on a rampage destroying buildings, since he already knew what Itachi chose.. but he didn't.

UCHIHA didn't like the GOVERNMENT..... Government DOES NOT = the Village.
 
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didnt hashi n tobirama said uchihas are filled with love thus they turn evil ..but itachi did not turn he protcted the ones he felt were innocent

And that is why he is the best
 

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ha , where did they state they were gonna attack Konoha? ;x Fugaku could've done it anytime he wanted.. ^_^. They were against the people oppressing them aka the corrupted leaders


Bro.. they weren't gonna attack the village.. They were doing a Coupde'tate which is overthrowing of the government. However, the leaders themselves were idiots and didn't try to talk it out first.


Uchiha wanted to overthrow the government, not the destroy the village.. lol.

He only protected the one he loved aka Sasuke.

:D good to see you actually want a discussion :D

Sorry sir, Konoha betrayed the Uchiha. By Konoha I'm referring to its leaders. Who put the Uchiha (co-founders of Konoha) in a corner? oh yes the leaders. Who put the blame of everything about the Kyuubi attack on the Uchiha? oh yes the leaders.

At this point, Uchiha had the right to coup against the government. Uchiha protected the village, that is a fact even Hiruzen acknowledges. Fugaku could've gone on a rampage destroying buildings, since he already knew what Itachi chose.. but he didn't.

UCHIHA didn't like the GOVERNMENT..... Government DOES NOT = the Village.

Well the people of Konoha weren't just going to let them kill Hiruzen + the others. :|
 

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Well the people of Konoha weren't just going to let them kill Hiruzen + the others. :|

And they weren't just gonna let Danzo's people kill the Uchiha. O-o. Are you forgetting about this?:

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Plus, people like Shikaku and other part intelligent people weren't gonna let it happen.
Yea but the Uchiha were willing to attack that very place as well.

They were doing a revolution mate. Not attacking the village.
 

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And they weren't just gonna let Danzo's people kill the Uchiha. O-o. Are you forgetting about this?:

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Plus, people like Shikaku and other part intelligent people weren't gonna let it happen.


They were doing a revolution mate. Not attacking the village.

The revolution would have led to an attack ie. a civil war.

Revolutions never end peacefully.
 

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And they weren't just gonna let Danzo's people kill the Uchiha. O-o. Are you forgetting about this?:

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Plus, people like Shikaku and other part intelligent people weren't gonna let it happen.


They were doing a revolution mate. Not attacking the village.

Most revolutions generally end with attacking the thing the people are revolting against and vice versa
 

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The revolution would have led to an attack ie. a civil war.

Revolutions never end peacefully.
That is a assumption made by the leaders, who segregated their own people.

Of course they don't, but they do end the reign of a corrupt government. Which would've been better for Konoha in the long run.

Most revolutions generally end with attacking the thing the people are revolting against and vice versa
French Revolution, American Revolution.. any other revolutions you want to mention?

And they probably would've attacked Danzo and etc.. they had the right to.. lol. Danzo was working with enemies of the leaf his entire time.
 
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