Are naruto and sasuke equivlant or stronger than ems madara with kurama

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Madara solos neg diff, just make kyuubi wear ps and slash them to pieces.
100% kyuubi>>> 50% kyuubi
Madara's PS>> Sausage's PS (not even sure if he has one )
 

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they have never been pushed to the limit they always fought someone they could beat, madara faced hashirama who is on a much different league than anyone naruto and sasuke have faced one on one...even if they fought hashirama they wouldnt do any better than madara did and would probably do slightly worse
 

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Ok I am on mobile so can't quote. Poat 54-55 elaborate please. Post 54 seems fanboyish. Why do people forgrt of bsm. Naruto as we saw can put sm in susanoo also probally as jugo did. Sasuke can make susanoo with amertasu armour as he can control the flames. Lastly kurama won't die to amertasu even if he gets hit etc not gona argue there as on mobile but amertasu burns pretty slow. Kurama is huge so would take time. Plus both of them would coat kurama. Then we talk about reserve levels and experience. They can use ma and pa for constant am mode and no chackra waste or minimum by using mostly sm chacora. Then kurama is alos there who probably is more knowledgeable than almost every other character. The madara kurama iw ssubdued. Ok btw I am mobile so forgive spelling.btw people rember naruto has most of yin kurama chackra so the reserves levels at first will be pretty similar. Plus at those chackra levels it doesn't matter that much.
 

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Together? They are still weaker by a little bit.
 

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Ok I am on mobile so can't quote. Poat 54-55 elaborate please. Post 54 seems fanboyish. Why do people forgrt of bsm. Naruto as we saw can put sm in susanoo also probally as jugo did. Sasuke can make susanoo with amertasu armour as he can control the flames. Lastly kurama won't die to amertasu even if he gets hit etc not gona argue there as on mobile but amertasu burns pretty slow. Kurama is huge so would take time. Plus both of them would coat kurama. Then we talk about reserve levels and experience. They can use ma and pa for constant am mode and no chackra waste or minimum by using mostly sm chacora. Then kurama is alos there who probably is more knowledgeable than almost every other character. The madara kurama iw ssubdued. Ok btw I am mobile so forgive spelling.btw people rember naruto has most of yin kurama chackra so the reserves levels at first will be pretty similar. Plus at those chackra levels it doesn't matter that much.

ma and pa will get killed...how will sasuke and naruto defend themselves from multiple tbb's??? they cant or at least it would be hard to

kurama's charka reserves and naruto with almost all the yin chakra aint the same the full kyuubi still has more and naruto will be suing jutsu which will reduce his amount over the fight the kyuubi will only use tbb's and slashes from its claws and i most surely guarantee the kyuubi can replenish at a much faster rate than naruto can...

kurama is knowledgeable but not about things like battles, the kyuubi has been used by madara and obito and never once said anything about them other than he hates madara so save the more knowledgeable shit, because madara seems to knw things even further back than the kyuubi's existence, which was the sage's mother+the god tree+scientific studies...madara is the most prepared, tactical, determined shinobi in history so what are u saying

and just because juugo did that to sasuke's susano desont mean naruto can if he could sasuke would have never brought jugo along with him for that specific task since sasuke knew naruto had sm and he knew his old friend and him would be working together to defeat the enemy
 

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How does sm help against Madara? Sure it increases their strength reflex and speed for a bit but that won't increase their chances of qinning by much at all, Madara's kyuubi covered in PS sliced like 6 mountains instantly, when narso and sauxe does that, we csn talk.
Nardo and Sauce defeated juubito with the entire Sa and gokaes and also hokages, and it was due to tnj, Madara xounters everything nardo has, samw thing goes for sauce, Madara's PS>>>> sausages in terms of power, same thing goes for full kurama and half kurama.
 

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Individually? No absolute chance.
Together? Naruto's BM is smaller and has less fire-power than 100% Kurama, although he can combine it with SM as replacement. Sasuke's PS maybe smaller than Madara's, however he can implify it with Enton increasing its offence and defence.

In fight, Madara would be the victor.
 

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Ma and pa will get killed. No naruto can make them hide in his cloack. Kurama isn't knowledgable what are you saying. He was leading naruto bee kakashi gai and others whwn they were fighting the juubi. Then you saw the other kurama can replenish faster? Thearen't gona make tbb like idiots anyway. Both of them know that woukd be a waste just look at there speed feats. Than the juugo part ahm sor its called plot and naruto and sasuke were sperate at that time not together so wouldn't make sense. Later was juugo with them no but the susanoo had sm. I can't double check as on phone so forgove errors and spelling.
 

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I would say they are stronger. Avatar form seems to be stronger then real biju and sasuke has enton over madara.
 
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