Are Boruto and Sarada going to inherit the fail and continue on being failures?

[wanderingcactus]

well there's more to Naruto and Sasuke than that.

Sasuke

Sasuke's goal to look for Ootsutsuki was to investigate where Kaguya came from and to see how to best guard the planet from invaders. It was clear that she was not alone. Being away from the village was his atonement for his sins. It would also help Naruto out a lot as the public quite does not want him there. Not being in Konoha also helps him and the village as it would not be easy for people seeking RS and find them all in one spot. Like in the case of Momoshiki and Kinshiki. Sasuke is doing his job as RS and patrolling the world gathering data and saving people wherever they need saving.

Naruto

Naruto on the other hand is more focused on being a Hokage rather than being RS. Now it is debatable that he could simply retire and have Konohamaru take over when he is ready for it. But from speculation, we really do not see him using any more RS powers and therefore we have assumed he has lost it.

Boruto and Sarada

Boruto and Sarada swapping parallels with their parents is actually a smart move. Sarada parallels with Naruto and Boruto with Sasuke.
Boruto is a knobhead. He will not be good for being Hokage. That is why Naruto is chained into a desk. The same fate will fall on Boruto if he pursue that dream as well. Sarada on the other is smart. She is great at critical thinking and she is very intuitive despite her emo moments. She can lock down that position and won't have to be tied down to a desk.


Now in order for this new gen to make way, we would have to get rid of the emphasis of the past gen. Unless it will all be about the chuunin and sannin levels then it is possible that we could simply ignore the previous gen. Sadly that is not the case.

Due to their heritage, they are bound to become overpowered and will have to replace their parents as RS.
Therefore they will need to have stronger opponents. The main problem is that how would the author(s) will bring them about.
If Kishi once again takes the helm on the storyline, it will be another asspull. The only acceptable asspull is that space invaders scenario.

Kaguya's clan can be assumed as godtier beings right from the bat.

 

[lndra]

well there's more to Naruto and Sasuke than that.

Sasuke

Sasuke's goal to look for Ootsutsuki was to investigate where Kaguya came from and to see how to best guard the planet from invaders. It was clear that she was not alone. Being away from the village was his atonement for his sins. It would also help Naruto out a lot as the public quite does not want him there. Not being in Konoha also helps him and the village as it would not be easy for people seeking RS and find them all in one spot. Like in the case of Momoshiki and Kinshiki. Sasuke is doing his job as RS and patrolling the world gathering data and saving people wherever they need saving.

Naruto

Naruto on the other hand is more focused on being a Hokage rather than being RS. Now it is debatable that he could simply retire and have Konohamaru take over when he is ready for it. But from speculation, we really do not see him using any more RS powers and therefore we have assumed he has lost it.

Boruto and Sarada

Boruto and Sarada swapping parallels with their parents is actually a smart move. Sarada parallels with Naruto and Boruto with Sasuke.
Boruto is a knobhead. He will not be good for being Hokage. That is why Naruto is chained into a desk. The same fate will fall on Boruto if he pursue that dream as well. Sarada on the other is smart. She is great at critical thinking and she is very intuitive despite her emo moments. She can lock down that position and won't have to be tied down to a desk.


Now in order for this new gen to make way, we would have to get rid of the emphasis of the past gen. Unless it will all be about the chuunin and sannin levels then it is possible that we could simply ignore the previous gen. Sadly that is not the case.

Due to their heritage, they are bound to become overpowered and will have to replace their parents as RS.
Therefore they will need to have stronger opponents. The main problem is that how would the author(s) will bring them about.
If Kishi once again takes the helm on the storyline, it will be another asspull. The only acceptable asspull is that space invaders scenario.

Kaguya's clan can be assumed as godtier beings right from the bat.

I was agreeing with you were saying, somewhat. But I'll have to disagree fully on the Boruto bit for the Hokage position.

Boruto has been showcased to be a lot smarter than Naruto, in fact, his Data-Book page even states that. Being a ninja prodigy gives him points too.

I have no doubt that he will mature into a sophisticated ninja. Sasuke in Part 1 wasn't even a Genius type ninja like Shikamaru (as in IQ) and he wasn't book smart like Sakura. His intelligence at 1.5, the average, while Naruto had a 1. The average for the Genin of this generation is 90, Boruto hits that, and Sarada is above average because she's book smart.

He'll most likely show his genius in battle, rather than book facts. But I don't necessarily see how he would end up being chained to a desk like his father.

Even hypothetical stupid Bolt see's how useless the Hokage position in that area, he most likely wouldn't deal with the other problems that comes with leading the Village, such as carrying grannies around.

Regardless, I think with Bolt being connected to the Otsutsuki Clan, and with Kawaki's fate intertwining with the Village being destroyed. It smells of rotten fish :lol

 

[123fire]

Indra: "Not interested in Boruto manga/anime"

Hmmmmmm :sdo:

 

[lndra]

Indra: "Not interested in Boruto manga/anime"

Hmmmmmm :sdo:

What does this have to do with the anime at all? I never said I was not interested in the Manga, I said that the Manga was horse shit with terrible art.

 

[Sagebee]

Thread title might be weird, but I'm talking about both of them wanting to follow in Naruto or Sasuke's footsteps.

But we both know that Naruto/Sasuke, while have important duties, aren't the most efficient in what they do.

For instance, Naruto made a lot promises, we aren't sure if he kept to it (EX - Fixing the Hyuuga system, or changing Amegakure). We know that Naruto brought peace between the Five Villages, but Kishimoto let both Hokage's (Naruto & Kakashi) keep Orochimaru alive, and well, he's immortal.

For the most part Naruto's Hokage rule can be seen as a giant babysitter. He is the main key to everything, he is the reason why the Villages are together, he is the reason why peace exists. But we do see later that Kawaki comes out of nowhere and attacks the Village. Once again proving Kishimoto shits on the Hokage title.

Sarada is going to be the Hokage in the distant future, she'll either become a bland Hokage like Naruto, being its babysitter without really accomplishing anything other than temporary peace between the 5 Villages. I doubt if Kishimoto didn't let Naruto change anything drastic, that the will allow Sarada to.

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Sasuke's entire role in all of this has been to track Otsutsuki, and protect Naruto in the shadows. For the most part his mission was complete ass up until the Boruto Movie, no need for large explanations. Let's just admit that and move on. Boruto unlike Sasuke, has no way of traveling dimensions. So even if they wrote up Boruto wanting to protect the Village, outside of the Village, he literally can't do shit. Even Sasuke couldn't locate the Otsutsuki until he physically met them, and before they attacked Naruto, they took out Killer Bee and the Hachibi. Imagine what would happen to the world if Boruto is supposed to be protecting it from the shadows. Utter failure.


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I've been thinking about for a while, but I think Kishimoto is going to shit on both of them really hard because they aren't Naruto or Sasuke. Naruto was destined to bring peace, and he's hit a curb. Sarada isn't destined to bring peace, so what is she going to do? Do you see the Kakashi Hokage-ness here? Useless.

It's even more hilarious for Boruto because unlike Sarada, his occupation is protecting her. So really he's just doing what Sasuke does, without really protecting the World. I mean discount Kawaki v Boruto -- Since Sarada isn't the Hokage, he most likely won't be saving people in the darkness because he has no way of traveling to distant dimensions.

I think it would even worse for Boruto/Sarada if Kishimoto/Ukyo turn them into characters who become 'busy' parents and never have time for their children. Add them being discount Naruto/Sasuke but worse adults, imagine if they become even shittier parents.

Now you can believe that this won't happen, but look how Kishimoto self inserted himself into Naruto/Sasuke. And look at them now :lol

Can we really expect Burrito and Salad to be treated better?

It all depends on the new author will be unlike the old cast these guys are suppose to be exceptional talents so I'm thinking there's a limit to there possible suckiness

I hope new writer learns from the mistakes of Kishi and does better but there will always be something to complain about

 

[NextGenNinja]

It does look like that or even worse for them. I honestly hope they do something a little bit different than just following their respective goals.

 

[lndra]

It does look like that or even worse for them. I honestly hope they do something a little bit different than just following their respective goals.

Agreed.

I don't think it'll be that deep tbh.

 

[minamoto]

only sarada will fail..

 

[SenseiSama]

Lol at first I was expecting this to be a Minamoto-type troll thread, title is really misleading xd

But nah, no one is a failure because the universe can't have peace without conflict nor good times without bad times, Naruto and Sasuke were just delaying the inevitable

 

[shelke]

I was agreeing with you were saying, somewhat. But I'll have to disagree fully on the Boruto bit for the Hokage position.

Boruto has been showcased to be a lot smarter than Naruto, in fact, his Data-Book page even states that. Being a ninja prodigy gives him points too.

I have no doubt that he will mature into a sophisticated ninja. Sasuke in Part 1 wasn't even a Genius type ninja like Shikamaru (as in IQ) and he wasn't book smart like Sakura. His intelligence at 1.5, the average, while Naruto had a 1. The average for the Genin of this generation is 90, Boruto hits that, and Sarada is above average because she's book smart.

He'll most likely show his genius in battle, rather than book facts. But I don't necessarily see how he would end up being chained to a desk like his father.

Even hypothetical stupid Bolt see's how useless the Hokage position in that area, he most likely wouldn't deal with the other problems that comes with leading the Village, such as carrying grannies around.

Regardless, I think with Bolt being connected to the Otsutsuki Clan, and with Kawaki's fate intertwining with the Village being destroyed. It smells of rotten fish :lol

Shikamaru disagrees and so do the feats:

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As for the thread, then you need to keep your expectations as low as possible. Kishimoto has mostly moved on. He never cared for these characters. The next generation was just a cash grab for the pairing fans.

 

[minamoto]

Lol at first I was expecting this to be a Minamoto-type troll thread, title is really misleading xd

But nah, no one is a failure because the universe can't have peace without conflict nor good times without bad times, Naruto and Sasuke were just delaying the inevitable

i no troll..i only post honest threads...teh biggest troll fodder base here is obviously sasukebase and saradabase...and i soloed them both

 

[lndra]

Shikamaru disagrees and so do the feats:

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As for the thread, then you need to keep your expectations as low as possible. Kishimoto has mostly moved on. He never cared for these characters. The next generation was just a cash grab for the pairing fans.

IMO Shikamaru isn't wrong, but when it comes to overbearing intelligence, you have to give it to Shikamaru. His intellect isn't a joke. He's known for creating hundreds of battle strategies at a second hand's notice, Sasuke later down the line became a tactical strategist, but I don't think its fair to compare them both in that area.

Because Sasuke is known for just being an outstanding ninja every category, while Shikamaru is only known for being outstanding as a tactician.

True. That's why I see it failing big time when its all over

 

[shelke]

IMO Shikamaru isn't wrong, but when it comes to overbearing intelligence, you have to give it to Shikamaru. His intellect isn't a joke. He's known for creating hundreds of battle strategies at a second hand's notice, Sasuke later down the line became a tactical strategist, but I don't think its fair to compare them both in that area.

Because Sasuke is known for just being an outstanding ninja every category, while Shikamaru is only known for being outstanding as a tactician.

True. That's why I see it failing big time when its all over

Sasuke trapped the smartest Senin at the mere age of 12 through nothing but maneuvering tactics alone. Nothing Shikamaru has done in his adulthood even compares as Sasuke's mind works a lot faster than Shikamaru's and his strategies have a 100% success rate provided the context. He may make many strategies, but how many of them were successful? Temari coming to his rescue in the forest as he was out of successful strategies comes to mind along with Sakura and Ino's father figuring out the mystery of the code and Pein's true hiding spot way faster than him.

And come on, the guy himself states it. He's a Sasuke fangirl. :kd:

I doubt much was invested into this venture. They will most certainly salvage their investments.

 

[Sagebee]

Shikamaru disagrees and so do the feats:

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As for the thread, then you need to keep your expectations as low as possible. Kishimoto has mostly moved on. He never cared for these characters. The next generation was just a cash grab for the pairing fans.

To say the new gen is only a cash grab is to assume that Kishi didn't have plans for a continuation from the beginning. I do agree by shippuden it seemed like Kishi no longer cared and was trying to get it over with for it seems is really his passion project. But of the material that's come out of the new gen so far seems solid to me.

 

[lndra]

Sasuke trapped the smartest Senin at the mere age of 12 through nothing but maneuvering tactics alone. Nothing Shikamaru has done in his adulthood even compares as Sasuke's mind works a lot faster than Shikamaru's and his strategies have a 100% success rate provided the context. He may make many strategies, but how many of them were successful? Temari coming to his rescue in the forest as he was out of successful strategies comes to mind along with Sakura and Ino's father figuring out the mystery of the code and Pein's true hiding spot way faster than him.

And come on, the guy himself states it. He's a Sasuke fangirl. :kd:

I doubt much was invested into this venture. They will most certain salvage their investments.

What about Shikamaru preventing the Juubi's Bijudama from destroying them? He was the one who slowed it down so that Minato could come in and teleport it away.

I can't blame Shikimaru for feeling dwarfed. Sasuke was the real Genius because he was well rounded, while Shikamaru wasn't that great of a fighter.

 

[shelke]

To say the new gen is only a cash grab is to assume that Kishi didn't have plans for a continuation from the beginning. I do agree by shippuden it seemed like Kishi no longer cared and was trying to get it over with for it seems is really his passion project. But of the material that's come out of the new gen so far seems solid to me.

To each his own, but, I disagree.

What about Shikamaru preventing the Juubi's Bijudama from destroying them? He was the one who slowed it down so that Minato could come in and teleport it away.

I can't blame Shikamaru for feeling dwarfed. Sasuke was the real Genius because he was well rounded, while Shikamaru wasn't that great of a fighter.

I never claimed Shimakaru is stupid. I simply consider him far inferior to Sasuke, that is all. His feats are nothing special when put against Sasuke's, to be honest as they are there for opponents with poor intelligence. Jubi was just an animal at that point. And even what he did, he failed and another had to drop in to offer something. Remember, he failed miserably against Kakuzu as Kakashi was nearly killed twice. Not only that, he never factored in Kakuzu as a player in the game, when he knew nothing about his techs bar the threads he used and only decided to divide and win the game on the battle-field.

Remember, outwitting a stupid opponent doesn't make one smart; it simply makes them less stupid, when Sasuke bested highly intelligent opponents. Prodigies even through cunning alone. Look at how Danzo was defeated. Sasuke was on top of the game from the start. He used a Genjutsu initially (when Danzo saw Itachi) to check whether he could be put under Genjutsu or not as he had about a dozen Sharingan to naturally resist Genjutsu. Then, when he noticed he could be, he made him believe his eye was open and he was using Izanagi. He died quite poetically, beliving that the Sharingan he was using was his. Sasuke's strategy actually humiliated him; a man who was a head of Root for as long as such a system was forced.

So, who do you think is more intelligent? A dude who fights and beats dumb guys, or a dude who beats people with vast tactical experiences? Take your pick as Shikamaru has always been a small fry in my eyes. Sasuke on the other hand deliberately makes plans that humiliate and deconstruct his opponents like most of his plans do; he's delightfully impish. And that's one of the main reasons why he's my favourite character in the manga; he's actually very cunning and devious, opportunistic and daring in a sinister way; the perfect imp! :kd:

Yes, but he was saying that Sasuke was superior to him in every way. Everyway. Secret Sasuke fangirl! Admit it! :kd:

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

To each his own, but, I disagree.



I never claimed Shimakaru is stupid. I simply consider him far inferior to Sasuke, that is all. His feats are nothing special when put against Sasuke's, to be honest as they are there for opponents with poor intelligence. Jubi was just an animal at that point. And even what he did, he failed and another had to drop in to offer something. Remember, he failed miserably against Kakuzu as Kakashi was nearly killed twice. Not only that, he never factored in Kakuzu as a player in the game, when he knew nothing about his techs bar the threads he used and only decided to divide and win the game on the battle-field.

Remember, outwitting a stupid opponent doesn't make one smart; it simply makes them less stupid, when Sasuke bested highly intelligent opponents. Prodigies even through cunning alone. Look at how Danzo was defeated. Sasuke was on top of the game from the start. He used a Genjutsu initially (when Danzo saw Itachi) to check whether he could be put under Genjutsu or not as he had about a dozen Sharingan to naturally resist Genjutsu. Then, when he noticed he could be, he made him believe his eye was open and he was using Izanagi. He died quite poetically, beliving that the Sharingan he was using was his. Sasuke's strategy actually humiliated him; a man who was a head of Root for as long as such a system was forced.

So, who do you think is more intelligent? A dude who fights and beats dumb guys, or a dude who beats people with vast tactical experiences? Take your pick as Shikamaru has always been a small fry in my eyes. Sasuke on the other hand deliberately makes plans that humiliate and deconstruct his opponents like most of his plans do; he's delightfully impish. And that's one of the main reasons why he's my favourite character in the manga; he's actually very cunning and devious, opportunistic and daring in a sinister way; the perfect imp! :kd:

Yes, but he was saying that Sasuke was superior to him in every way. Everyway. Secret Sasuke fangirl! Admit it! :kd:

shikamaru because he has an IQ of over 200

 

[shelke]

shikamaru because he has an IQ of over 200

And ...?

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

And ...?

self explanatory

 

[shelke]

self explanatory

Heh, no?