[Theory] Are Aizen and Kisuke Urahara related?

[NotAFanBoy]

I know that this theory may seem a bit far fetched to some but I trully believe that azien and kisuke are closely realted to each other either through blood(brothers) or former friendship(former close allies)

Why do I think so?
Aizen is alive. That means that kubo will use him for something important in the manga later on. If Aizen were to be irrelevant Kubo would have thought of a way to kill him somehow. Instead he just imprisoned him.
When Kisuke was 'taking care' of aizen in the arrancar arc they both admited that they saw the soul king. Aizen said something like'How can you serve that thing?'

This makes me think. Why would they both have seen the soul king in the past? ....Because they were close comrades or brothers.

On top of all this Kisuke is hiding loads of things about himself. We know he is special. Yet he never decided to reveal his connection to aizen or the soul king.

I am not saying that Kisuke will become a villain( although that's not out of the question completly) What I am saying is that both him and aizen are very special for some reason. I think that both kisuke and aizen will play a very important role in this arc later on.

What you guys think? Is my theory too far fetched or possible?

 

[Shanks]

I know that this theory may seem a bit far fetched to some but I trully believe that azien and kisuke are closely realted to each other either through blood(brothers) or former friendship(former close allies)

Why do I think so?
Aizen is alive. That means that kubo will use him for something important in the manga later on. If Aizen were to be irrelevant Kubo would have thought of a way to kill him somehow. Instead he just imprisoned him.
When Kisuke was 'taking care' of aizen in the arrancar arc they both admited that they saw the soul king. Aizen said something like'How can you serve that thing?'

This makes me think. Why would they both have seen the soul king in the past? ....Because they were close comrades or brothers.

On top of all this Kisuke is hiding loads of things about himself. We know he is special. Yet he never decided to reveal his connection to aizen or the soul king.

I am not saying that Kisuke will become a villain( although that's not out of the question completly) What I am saying is that both him and aizen are very special for some reason. I think that both kisuke and aizen will play a very important role in this arc later on.

What you guys think? Is my theory too far fetched or possible?

Not at all they are not brothers . It seems they knew each other quite well enough i rather say they were good friends in younger days .

 

[Forbidden Tale]

1. Not sure about this, can't show a proof, but I said a lot of rumors that Kubo at first inteaded Gin and Urahara to be Main Villains and Aizen just to be some device... But as I said I don't have proof to show that. If Kubo made plot twist and made Urahara Villain in Arrancar arc, that would be ok, but now, I think it's too late to make such a twist.

2. The connection? Hm, I don't think that they are brothers or even some allies, but I would agree that both of them were at RR at some time.

My crack (I already posted it here, but can't find it at the moment, so I will just writte it again):

I think that not just Aizen and Urahara, but Isshin as well, was at the some time in RR. These three are very talented and strong shinobis, even thought they are much younger than likes of Kyoraku, Ukitake, Unohana (who are also very talented and had good teacher (when it comes to duo - Yamamoto) they still seems to be inferior to Aizen and co and that by a long margin... So who did these three close the gap and become so strong? My theory is that all three of them were at some point just like Renji, Ichigo, Byakuya and Rukia at the RR and trained with RG.

Urahara got to train and analyze RG's inventions and creat his own version of it.
- Tenjiro's hot springs - already saw his version
- Kirio's food - you can see Orihime eating something while she trained in HM under Urahara and also Urahara created Gigai probably obserbing Kirio's 'mod soul'
- Oetsu's asauchi - he was able to awake Ichigo's zanp. even without Oetsu's asauchi
- Shutara's clothes - Urahara gave some weird clothes to Chad and Orihime.
- Ichibei - not sure about this.

Isshin, could train in RR and got information about Final Getsuga Tensho from Ichibei, who calls real names.

Aizen, trained there, but I'm not sure what he also could got from RR, I assume he got some informations that helped him in his rebillion against SK, or maybe some informations how to create Hogyoku.

That's all.

 

[NotAFanBoy]

1. Not sure about this, can't show a proof, but I said a lot of rumors that Kubo at first inteaded Gin and Urahara to be Main Villains and Aizen just to be some device... But as I said I don't have proof to show that. If Kubo made plot twist and made Urahara Villain in Arrancar arc, that would be ok, but now, I think it's too late to make such a twist.

2. The connection? Hm, I don't think that they are brothers or even some allies, but I would agree that both of them were at RR at some time.

My crack (I already posted it here, but can't find it at the moment, so I will just writte it again):

I think that not just Aizen and Urahara, but Isshin as well, was at the some time in RR. These three are very talented and strong shinobis, even thought they are much younger than likes of Kyoraku, Ukitake, Unohana (who are also very talented and had good teacher (when it comes to duo - Yamamoto) they still seems to be inferior to Aizen and co and that by a long margin... So who did these three close the gap and become so strong? My theory is that all three of them were at some point just like Renji, Ichigo, Byakuya and Rukia at the RR and trained with RG.

Urahara got to train and analyze RG's inventions and creat his own version of it.
- Tenjiro's hot springs - already saw his version
- Kirio's food - you can see Orihime eating something while she trained in HM under Urahara and also Urahara created Gigai probably obserbing Kirio's 'mod soul'
- Oetsu's asauchi - he was able to awake Ichigo's zanp. even without Oetsu's asauchi
- Shutara's clothes - Urahara gave some weird clothes to Chad and Orihime.
- Ichibei - not sure about this.

Isshin, could train in RR and got information about Final Getsuga Tensho from Ichibei, who calls real names.

Aizen, trained there, but I'm not sure what he also could got from RR, I assume he got some informations that helped him in his rebillion against SK, or maybe some informations how to create Hogyoku.

That's all.

So What do you think aizen's role will be in this arc? Do you think it will somehow be connected to the soul king and kisuke?

 

[Shanks]

1. Not sure about this, can't show a proof, but I said a lot of rumors that Kubo at first inteaded Gin and Urahara to be Main Villains and Aizen just to be some device... But as I said I don't have proof to show that. If Kubo made plot twist and made Urahara Villain in Arrancar arc, that would be ok, but now, I think it's too late to make such a twist.

2. The connection? Hm, I don't think that they are brothers or even some allies, but I would agree that both of them were at RR at some time.

My crack (I already posted it here, but can't find it at the moment, so I will just writte it again):

I think that not just Aizen and Urahara, but Isshin as well, was at the some time in RR. These three are very talented and strong shinobis, even thought they are much younger than likes of Kyoraku, Ukitake, Unohana (who are also very talented and had good teacher (when it comes to duo - Yamamoto) they still seems to be inferior to Aizen and co and that by a long margin... So who did these three close the gap and become so strong? My theory is that all three of them were at some point just like Renji, Ichigo, Byakuya and Rukia at the RR and trained with RG.

Urahara got to train and analyze RG's inventions and creat his own version of it.
- Tenjiro's hot springs - already saw his version
- Kirio's food - you can see Orihime eating something while she trained in HM under Urahara and also Urahara created Gigai probably obserbing Kirio's 'mod soul'
- Oetsu's asauchi - he was able to awake Ichigo's zanp. even without Oetsu's asauchi
- Shutara's clothes - Urahara gave some weird clothes to Chad and Orihime.
- Ichibei - not sure about this.

Isshin, could train in RR and got information about Final Getsuga Tensho from Ichibei, who calls real names.

Aizen, trained there, but I'm not sure what he also could got from RR, I assume he got some informations that helped him in his rebillion against SK, or maybe some informations how to create Hogyoku.

That's all.

Ichibei trained Isshin are you sure ? Are you saying Isshin and Urahara knew each other since youth days . If that theory is true it makes sense how oetsu knew about Isshin location when ichigo failed to get his asauchi.

 

[Shanks]

So What do you think aizen's role will be in this arc? Do you think it will somehow be connected to the soul king and kisuke?

Aizen will surely come back . But it looks like he might help Soul society from Yhwach's claw . Yhwach wants Soul Kings Power.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Ichibei trained Isshin are you sure ? Are you saying Isshin and Urahara knew each other since youth days . If that theory is true it makes sense how oetsu knew about Isshin location when ichigo failed to get his asauchi.

I never said that all three of them were together in RR.

If this is true, in order for that to not be plot hole...

Urahara would need to be in RR somewhere prior to 100 years.

Aizen could be in RR somewhere between 100 years and 20 years ago (white incident), but in that case he sure wouldn't get information how to created Hogyoku, since he created Hogyoku 100+ years ago.

Isshin could be in RR somwhere between the time when he become captain and 20 years ago (White incident).

Aizen and Isshin could actually be in RR together, but there is not chance that Urahara, Aizen and Isshin were all together in RR.

Aizen assumed in TBTP arc, how kind of man Urahara is, if they had deeper bond, he would be sure about that. (He assumed that Urahara will come to help Visoreds). And if both of them were in RR I assume they would grow deeper bond.

And if Urahara and Isshin were together in RR, than Isshin should remember Urahara, but he couldn't recognize his face.

Tho, this all is just a theory. =D

 

[NotAFanBoy]

Aizen will surely come back . But it looks like he might help Soul society from Yhwach's claw . Yhwach wants Soul Kings Power.

Aizen will help soul society fight ywach? That seems possible. Lets just kubo dosent pull an oruchimaru with aizen though. Making aizen a good guy would not be good for his character I think

 

[Shanks]

I never said that all three of them were together in RR.

If this is true, in order for that to not be plot hole...

Urahara would need to be in RR somewhere prior to 100 years.

Aizen could be in RR somewhere between 100 years and 20 years ago (white incident), but in that case he sure wouldn't get information how to created Hogyoku, since he created Hogyoku 100+ years ago.

Isshin could be in RR somwhere between the time when he become captain and 20 years ago (White incident).

Aizen and Isshin could actually be in RR together, but there is not chance that Urahara, Aizen and Isshin were all together in RR.

Aizen assumed in TBTP arc, how kind of man Urahara is, if they had deeper bond, he would be sure about that. (He assumed that Urahara will come to help Visoreds). And if both of them were in RR I assume they would grow deeper bond.

And if Urahara and Isshin were together in RR, than Isshin should remember Urahara, but he couldn't recognize his face.

Tho, this all is just a theory. =D

I forgot about White Incident Isshin never recognized Urahara you are right there .

Though they all fit around same age group .

 

[Shanks]

Aizen will help soul society fight ywach? That seems possible. Lets just kubo dosent pull an oruchimaru with aizen though. Making aizen a good guy would not be good for his character I think

But looking at the plot there are villains who are more troublesome than Aizen right now .

No Shikai and he became one with his Powers and of course not he is not Orochimaru he is Kubo's finest piece of work he might cause Yhwach some sleepless night if he comes out .

 

[Forbidden Tale]

So What do you think aizen's role will be in this arc? Do you think it will somehow be connected to the soul king and kisuke?

I see two possiblities.

1. Aizen joining with Shinigamis (more likely) or Yhwach (less likely).

or

2. Aizen breaking out of prison with some criminals and form his own crew out of prisoners. He will also regrut Bazz-B and Lilttoto, Hogyoku will hear their hearth and give them new/old powers. So it will be Aizen + Prisoners + Bazz-B + Lilttoto and we will have three groups: Aizen's crew, Wandenreich and Gotei. His final fight will be around the time when Yhwach vs Ichigo happens and it will be against Urahara.

I see second as most likely IMO.

 

[Shanks]

I see two possiblities.

1. Aizen joining with Shinigamis (more likely) or Yhwach (less likely).

or

2. Aizen breaking out of prison with some criminals and form his own crew out of prisoners. He will also regrut Bazz-B and Lilttoto, Hogyoku will hear their hearth and give them new/old powers. So it will be Aizen + Prisoners + Bazz-B + Lilttoto and we will have three groups: Aizen's crew, Wandenreich and Gotei. His final fight will be around the time when Yhwach vs Ichigo happens and it will be against Urahara.

I see second as most likely IMO.

lol i see this hapening ex -quincies teaming up . Excellent idea dude i am sure old glory of bleach will come back.

 

[sravan]

no i don't think they are related but i think they knew each other and the true identity of soul king.soul king maybe a hybrid of all the types we have seen so aizen didn't want to work under him so he turned against ss to take over.
I think Aizen will help SS for this time and once again proves how badass he is.
There are some rumors about urahara being final villian but that will make bleach worse for me.
I think Aizen,urahara,isshin will play important roles because these 3 are special for me

 

[Memento Mori]

1. Not sure about this, can't show a proof, but I said a lot of rumors that Kubo at first inteaded Gin and Urahara to be Main Villains and Aizen just to be some device... But as I said I don't have proof to show that. If Kubo made plot twist and made Urahara Villain in Arrancar arc, that would be ok, but now, I think it's too late to make such a twist.

It think it was never a late knowing about kubo.
@ Underline....I read it from some interview but I can't gather the source from where I read it.Nonetheless,I am posting here last interview kubo did.If anyone want to read remaining interviews,VM/PM me.In this one,he didn't mentioned urahara or I overlooked it ?

Genryusai Yamamoto

Yamamoto has become softer
He is still without his left arm
Though he has not changed physically, he does have some inner changes.

Soi Fon

Her hair is shorter and straight now
Her arm was restored due to new technology in the Gotei 13.

Rose Otoribashi

His look is modeled after an English gentleman
Kubo chose to re-add Rose to the Third Division because he and Kira are well suited for each other


Izuru Kira

Kubo says he feels his bankai would be a little nauseating


Retsu Unohana

Unohana will fight in the upcoming arc
The true form of her Zanpakuto will be seen
When she fights, she unravels her braid


Shinji Hirako

Shinji's bangs have changed since his hair would not grow that much in 17 months
Kubo would like to draw how Shinji and Momo have developed a trusting relationship.


Byakuya Kuchiki

Byakuya no longer wears a kenseikan


Renji Abarai

Renji has grown stronger
He is not quite at Aizen level yet.
His Bankai has changed
Renji stopped wearing the white headband and switched to a towel so they would not break in battle.


Sajin Komamura

His armor has changed


Shunsui Kyoraku

The "history" of his pink Haori will be revealed
Shunsui will use Bankai in this arc.


Kensei Muguruma

Kensei is captain again with Shuhei Hisgai, who looks up to him, as his lieutenant.


Toshiro Hitsugaya

Despite insisting that he grew taller in a volume 53 sketch, he has not grown taller (Kubo laughs)
His Bankai has been completed
The chain on his Zanpakuto has changed


Rangiku Matsumoto

Rangiku's past will be a key to the story.


Kenpachi Zaraki

He has not learned the name of his Zanpakuto yet but will soon and will finally obtain Bankai
Kubo wants to draw his becoming a captain but says it would be difficult as it would disrupt the narrative.


Yachiru Kusajishi

Kubo has not even drawn her in a fight yet


Ikkaku Madarame

He wears a new armor piece with the kanji for dragon on it.


Yumichika Ayasegawa

Kubo said if he gives a lieutenant a Bankai, he thinks Yumichika would be a good choice.
Kubo considers him and Ikkaku to be equals in strength


Mayuri Kurosuchi

Mayuri's research will be the key to this arc.
Specifically his study on bodies will be the main part of this arc.
He has a new look
He has several different "faces" which he could put on at any time.
Kubo wanted to draw him in the last arc but could not make him appear


Jushiro Ukitake

Ukitake is still ill
He will recover
He has undergone a bit of an internal change
Kubo claims he has no sense of fashion and jokingly said the only change he would ever make is dying his hair.


Rukia Kuchiki

Kubo plans on drawing flashbacks of when she was made a Lieutenant and how she felt.
Sentaro Kotsubaki and Kiyone Kotetsu are supportive of her


Yoruichi Shihoin

Kubo wanted to change her looks but thought her current look suits her too well.
She is permanently exiled from Soul Society along with Kisuke Urahara
Her secret past with Urahara will be revealed


Isshin Kurosaki

His past with Ryuken will be revealed
Isshin could not go to Soul Society with Urahara because it would reveal something to the Gotei 13 and thus did not go.


Ichigo Kurosaki

Aizen commented that since Ichigo's birth, he has been an extraordinary being, the meaning behind this will be revealed
Grand Fisher called Ichigo a true blood, the meaning of this will be revealed
The reason why Ichigo looks so similar to Kaien will come out.
Ichigo is a Substitute Soul Reaper again.
The marks around his wrist and neck represent the remnants of his Fullbring merging with his Soul Reaper powers



Masaki Kurosaki

Ichigo and Isshin believe that Masaki died to Grand Fisher, however this may not be true. The truth will be revealed.


Sosuke Aizen

Aizen will return and have a big role.
Kubo wants to draw him in restraints.


Visored

The fate of Hiyori will be revealed
What became of the other Visored will be revealed


Zennosuke Kurumadani

Kubo says he is unemployed (Kubo laughed)


Royal Guard/ Squad Zero

The Royal Guard will appear
Kubo has already drawn all the members


Other Stuff

Kubo says the Soul Society Arc was about Rukia, Arrancar arc was about Orihime and Lost Substitute Arc was about Sado. Based on this, the new arc will likely be about Uryu.

The new arc is called The Thousand-Year Blood War.

The villians are the Quincy.

The The Thousand-Year Blood War will take place in an Ice palace beneath somewhere.

The palace will be mostly white with blues and silvers in there as well.

Grimmjow is alive and might be a ally

Nel will return

This will be the last arc in Bleach

Everyone's bloodlines will be revealed

The Soul King will be revealed

The Quincies in this arc are few in number but their numbers will increase.

Everyone's past will become important.

The threat in this arc will be so great that it will force the Royal Guard/Squad Zero out and be something they have never faced before.

The Quincies have the ability to complete erase a Hollow from existence

The Quincies have been killing Hollows in mass.

Mayuri knows what is going on.

Other characters like Kon, Kukaku Shiba and Gantenbainne Mosqueda will make an apperance at some point.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

That's not really interview, that's omake when Bleach was on three weeks break. Mostly of the omake was done by Kubo's editors:

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[Memento Mori]

Oh I see.When I copied and saved that I remember it was from WSJ......
If I remember there was a thread in bleachasylum a year ago(may be) posting all the interviews of kubo did.

Edit - I remember lol.They were translated by estella

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Thread is still there, Kubo did say a couple of words for each division in the omake.

 

[Memento Mori]

Thread is still there, Kubo did say a couple of words for each division in the omake.

Yup.I dig that thread

 

[TheBrownJonin1023]

Aizen and Urahara look to be around the same age, and they were quite familiar with each other, so my guess is that they were academy classmates.

Since it obvious they both know what the soul king looks like.
I also imagine that sometime during their careers as Shinigami they either met the soul king or had some sort of vision about him.

Urahara likely saw the importance and necessity of the soul King whereas Aizen was disgusted by him. This led Urahara to devote his all to the soul king and Aizen to attempt to usurp him.


The only time frame I can see Aizen having met the soul king is during the period of time between Urahara's promotion to Captain and his exile from the soul society. Prior to that Aizen had little knowledge about squad zero, who he should've met if he saw the Soul King prior to that.