Are 6POP abilities unique to the rinnegan or the corpses?

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Are the moves of the paths based on the corpse, or is it all in the Rinnegan? Like, did Yahiko have the Shinra Tensei and CT ability? Or did the Deva Path only have them because of the Rinnegan? If its because of the rinnegan, why wasn't Tobi doing them with his paths? The jinchuuriki paths and Nagato's paths used different movesets. Just curious.
 

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Nah, i think they were specifly designed to have a path, il give you plus rep anyways, i know how hard it is to get it on this site
 

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Because of the Rinnegan.
And for your second question its all plot.
 

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I think its the rinnegan not the bodies, except for the body that shoots missles from his head xD
 

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The Rinnegan is one of the most confusing jutsus honestly. If those abilities are Rinnegan dependent, Nagato with Rinnegan can summon animals, shinra tensei, and CT. But why can't Obito? If instead they are user specific, then why does Obito's paths not do moves that are specific to Obito, IE: kamui, fireballs, gedo maze? They all didn't seem like paths, they just seemed like 6 edo tensei guys with their abilities before they died + eye link?
 

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I think it depends on the body and you just get eye link
I saw somewhere videos/pictures of pain's paths before they were his and they were using the techniques before they died
 

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Who said Obito cannot use these abilities within his paths?
 

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Who said Obito cannot use these abilities within his paths?

Going by what we saw in the manga. If Nagato's abilities are Rinnegan specific, there's no reason for Obito not to use them by himself or through his paths like Nagato does. Obito has not demonstrated being able to use Shinra Tensei, CT, animal summons, etc. But at the same time, if they are specific to the corpses, how was Nagato using all those abilities that his corpses had and how did Madara use Preta Path's ability?

The manga does not prove either Rinnegan or user specificity IMO.
 

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I think it depends on the body and you just get eye link
I saw somewhere videos/pictures of pain's paths before they were his and they were using the techniques before they died

But if it depends on the bodies of the paths, how come Madara was able to use preta path's abilities and how did Nagato use CT/ST without the paths?
 

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Going by what we saw in the manga. If Nagato's abilities are Rinnegan specific, there's no reason for Obito not to use them by himself or through his paths like Nagato does. Obito has not demonstrated being able to use Shinra Tensei, CT, animal summons, etc. But at the same time, if they are specific to the corpses, how was Nagato using all those abilities that his corpses had and how did Madara use Preta Path's ability?

The manga does not prove either Rinnegan or user specificity IMO.

You do realise that the body which was used as Chikushōdō (animal path) was changed by Nagato after Jiraiya had destroyed it, right [ ][ ]? Are you saying that both of these random bodies possessed the ability to summon? This is, of course, disregarding the fact that Madara stated he would teach Obito the jutsu of the 6 paths - these being specific abilities afforded to those who wield the Rinnegan [ ][ ]. Are you saying that Madara taught Obito how to use Rōshi's Yōton (Lava Release)? It's clear that the abilities are merely specific to the user since, as you say, Nagato used all the abilities in his own body once he was revived. Gedō (Outer Path) is what allows a Rinnegan user to control bodies and, ultimately, project their powers through each realm. Obito was only using one Rinnegan; we don't know if this limits the wielder's capabilities. It's not surprising that Obit's paths had unique abilities because he was using Edo Jinchūrikis as his proxy; Nagato was only (as far as we know) using 'normal' shinobi who lacked spectacular or unique powers. But merely saying Obito cannot do so simply because he did not show to (and then, using this as evidence to suggest that the abilities are unique to the dead bodies) is really silly to be honest.
 

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So it seems you are arguing for the abilities being both specific to the path's original unique abilities(like we saw the edo jins using) in addition to the Rinnegan's "base abilities"(which is what you are considering the original 6pops to be using) but that Obito simply was not using the Rinnegan's base abilities, correct?

I didn't consider that for the very fact that Obito didn't use them. Its not silly at all.The jutsus Nagato's paths were using which you consider to be the Rinnegan's base abilities, are quite OP and would have been really handy to Obito during his fight vs Naruto and his team.

Madara being able to use preta path ability + Nagato using the 6POP abilities supports Rinnegan specificity, and Roshi's lava release does support user specificity. I just don't understand why the F Obito is not using the original Rinnegan techs then since those are quite epic. Guess we can chalk it to the one rinnegan thing?
 
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"The jutsus Nagato's paths were using which you consider to be the Rinnegan's base abilities, are quite OP and would have been really handy to Obito during his fight vs Naruto and his team."

Why didn't Obito snatch Naruto when he was a young child? There's your answer.
 

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"The jutsus Nagato's paths were using which you consider to be the Rinnegan's base abilities, are quite OP and would have been really handy to Obito during his fight vs Naruto and his team."

Why didn't Obito snatch Naruto when he was a young child? There's your answer.

Yeah, I'm just going with the one rinnegan thing. Anyway, I'll rep u for the other post since you tried. The 6pop stuff is finally making a little bit of sense.
 

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Shinra tensei is the Rinnegan abilities, Yakiho couldn't do it when he was alive. Manga hasn't really let Obito do any Rinnegan moves, I assume this will change in the upcoming chapters
 

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The 6 paths were each suposed to have diffrent abilitys, in wich making it hole, makes nagato <--- Meh, tobis own "6 paths" were those jinjurkis, just without the 1st, because the host is still alive, and without the 8th and 9th tale, leaving only 6 of those dead jinjuriki. They are compelty diffrent people, thats why.....
 
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