Apparently Sasuke's Ameno is faster than FTG

[Loki d]

Tobirama stated how slow FTG is with clones and instead combines his teleportation with Minato because it would be faster like how Kakashi and Obito combined their Kamui to escape from Madara

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It is a combination of two FTG so it is faster than a normal FTG. Instant + Instant = More Instantaneous

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It took two FTG to match Ameno. So Ameno = two FTG. That's why Madara said Sasuke didn't teleport.

I guess Swapping >> Flying >> Warping.

 

[Gerkak]

Wrong, there is no such thing as something being more instantaneous than the other. If something is faster than what was previously thought to be instantaneous than the previous thing wasn't instant to begin with.

The reason why FTG with a clone is slower is because of the clones own physical capabilities not that of the technique. To put it simply the clones which are always weaker than the original lack the reflexes to pull off the swap at the right time against someone of juubito's caliber. If the clones were of faster characters, say JJ madara and RSM naruto the technique would have worked.

Clarification: it isn't FTG that gets slower it is the clones that are slower than their original counter parts.

 

[Sithis]

^What he said.

Instant cant be greater than instant.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Loki D's logic:-

Yea, this is fiction therefore it can happen for something much faster than instant.

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[Loki d]

Wrong, there is no such thing as something being more instantaneous than the other. If something is faster than what was previously thought to be instantaneous than the previous thing wasn't instant to begin with.

The reason why FTG with a clone is slower is because of the clones own physical capabilities not that of the technique. To put it simply the clones which are always weaker than the original lack the reflexes to pull off the swap at the right time against someone of juubito's caliber. If the clones were of faster characters, say JJ madara and RSM naruto the technique would have worked.

Clarification: it isn't FTG that gets slower it is the clones that are slower than their original counter parts.

No it's all just infinitely small something we can't measure that is what Instant is. There is always something smaller. Instant isn't a cap it's not a ceiling its just immeasurable so yes there can be something more immeasurable than Instant.

EDIT: Also they were strictly talking about teleportation not reflexes or any of that nonsense you made up

 

[Adam Driver]

How does instant + instant = more instant??
Instant is instant period.

 

[Ansatsuken]

How does instant + instant = more instant??
Instant is instant period.

Maybe his logic base on instant noodle. The name is 'instant' noodle but when preparing it not so instant'lol

 

[Gerkak]

No it's all just infinitely small something we can't measure that is what Instant is. There is always something smaller. Instant isn't a cap it's not a ceiling its just immeasurable so yes there can be something more immeasurable than Instant.

EDIT: Also they were strictly talking about teleportation not reflexes or any of that nonsense you made up

It seems you have no idea what instant is. You're probably one of those people that say something is beyond infinity.

Yes I know what they said, but what they meant is obviously different since nothing can be faster than instant.

Nonsense I made up? Lol, says the person who says instant is something we can't measure. Yet you are able to distinguish what is more instant than another. Do you realize how flawed and foolish your logic is?

Look again, maybe now the gaps in your argument will be made clear to you

 

[Loki d]

It seems you have no idea what instant is. You're probably one of those guys that say something is beyond infinity.

Yes I know what they said, but what they meant is obviously different since nothing can be faster than instant.

Nonsense I made up? Lol, says the person who says instant is something we can't measure. Yet you are able to distinguish what is more instant than another. Do you realize how flawed and foolish your logic is?

Look again

Dude it's fiction

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Do you want me to post a ton of things that go against logic? "You have no imagination if you're going to perform inception you need imagination" which is what a wise man once said.

 

[Gerkak]

Dude it's fiction

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Even fiction is based on real world concepts. It doesn't totally go against all logic.

 

[Loki d]

Even fiction is based on real world concepts. It doesn't totally go against all logic.

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Do you want me to post a ton of things that go against logic? "You have no imagination if you're going to perform inception you need imagination" which is what a wise man once said.

(By the way I predicted such a response)

 

[Ansatsuken]

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Do you want me to post a ton of things that go against logic? "You have no imagination if you're going to perform inception you need imagination" which is what a wise man once said.

(By the way I predicted such a response)

But in speed department most fiction still follow speed logic.

In Flash cases he never said anything about surpassing instant. At most he said attosecond speed. Show me flash or Superman said they surpassed instant.

In that scan Superman or the objective of that scan is to tells us Superman can fly/travel very far beyond infinite universe/dimension and not about speed

 

[Demonic.]

Wrong, there is no such thing as something being more instantaneous than the other. If something is faster than what was previously thought to be instantaneous than the previous thing wasn't instant to begin with.

The reason why FTG with a clone is slower is because of the clones own physical capabilities not that of the technique. To put it simply the clones which are always weaker than the original lack the reflexes to pull off the swap at the right time against someone of juubito's caliber. If the clones were of faster characters, say JJ madara and RSM naruto the technique would have worked.

Clarification: it isn't FTG that gets slower it is the clones that are slower than their original counter parts.

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[Gerkak]

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Do you want me to post a ton of things that go against logic? "You have no imagination if you're going to perform inception you need imagination" which is what a wise man once said.

(By the way I predicted such a response)

It doesn't matter how many things you can post. This discussion is about naruto not superman. In the superman comics such things are to be expected as they fall into the rules of the comic. Another example is in marvel there are degrees of omnipotence, in the NV both the characters and the DB agree that both techniques are instant and no distinction between the speed of these techniques was ever shown on panel. Ameno and FTG are both shown in a similar way on panel. A single scan which may depend on interpretation isn't going to convince me when a far larger part of the manga shows the contrary.

If you predicted such a response then good for you.

 

[Loki d]

But in speed department most fiction still follow speed logic.

In Flash cases he never said anything about surpassing instant. At most he said attosecond speed. Show me flash or Superman said they surpassed instant.

In that scan Superman or the objective of that scan is to tells us Superman can fly/travel very far beyond infinite universe/dimension and not about speed

It doesn't matter how many things you can post. This discussion is about naruto not superman. In the superman comics such things are to be expected as they fall into the rules of the comic. Another example is in marvel there are degrees of omnipotence, in the NV both the characters and the DB agree that both techniques are instant and no distinction between the speed of these techniques was ever shown on panel. Ameno and FTG are both shown in a similar way on panel. A single scan which may depend on interpretation isn't going to convince me when a far larger part of the manga shows the contrary.

If you predicted such a response then good for you.

I'm not going to entertain you two trolls any longer. Happy Thanksgiving

Edit: It's not like I can't prove you guys wrong and put you in hushh mode however I don't feel like it. I don't want to go in circles about this.

 

[Warlocks]

Wrong, there is no such thing as something being more instantaneous than the other. If something is faster than what was previously thought to be instantaneous than the previous thing wasn't instant to begin with.

The reason why FTG with a clone is slower is because of the clones own physical capabilities not that of the technique. To put it simply the clones which are always weaker than the original lack the reflexes to pull off the swap at the right time against someone of juubito's caliber. If the clones were of faster characters, say JJ madara and RSM naruto the technique would have worked.

Clarification: it isn't FTG that gets slower it is the clones that are slower than their original counter parts.

that^

 

[Ansatsuken]

I'm not going to entertain you two trolls any longer. Happy Thanksgiving

Of anything against you is a troll. If Author against your logic you will call him troll too? SMH

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Wrong, there is no such thing as something being more instantaneous than the other. If something is faster than what was previously thought to be instantaneous than the previous thing wasn't instant to begin with.

The reason why FTG with a clone is slower is because of the clones own physical capabilities not that of the technique. To put it simply the clones which are always weaker than the original lack the reflexes to pull off the swap at the right time against someone of juubito's caliber. If the clones were of faster characters, say JJ madara and RSM naruto the technique would have worked.

Clarification: it isn't FTG that gets slower it is the clones that are slower than their original counter parts.

I am starting to love your posts even more than before

 

[BrillyMac]

Wrong, there is no such thing as something being more instantaneous than the other. If something is faster than what was previously thought to be instantaneous than the previous thing wasn't instant to begin with.

The reason why FTG with a clone is slower is because of the clones own physical capabilities not that of the technique. To put it simply the clones which are always weaker than the original lack the reflexes to pull off the swap at the right time against someone of juubito's caliber. If the clones were of faster characters, say JJ madara and RSM naruto the technique would have worked.

Clarification: it isn't FTG that gets slower it is the clones that are slower than their original counter parts.

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[Monxstaa]

So sasuke and minato are same speed?