[Question] Aokiji and Jozu vs Kizaru and Doflamingo
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Tough one since Aokiji > Kizaru. I'd still say Kuzan team wins, doffy caught Jozu by surprise so I wouldn't jump to conclusions saying he's stronger than Jozu. As for Aokiji > Kizaru, it's been hinted.
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On topic i believe team 1 takes this!
Did you really just mix up Aokiji's name Lol. Aokiji & Kuzan are the same person XD
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Kizaru creates his Mirror move. Doffy restrains Jozu and directs an attack at Aokiji. Aokiji does something to stop Doffy's attack, Kizaru is free to move at light speed right behind Aokiji, kicks him in the head with a Haki-infused kick, the second the kick makes contact, fires a laser from his foot, Aokiji is decapitated. Then, they double team Jozu.
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team 1 takes this.
Aokiji can mid diff both Doflamingo and Kizaru in a 1 vs 1 fight, so all Jozu would have to do it keep either one busy until Aokiji has won his battle. and this is possible because Doflamingos strings and Kizaru's lasers would have no affect on Jozu since he is diamond tank. after Aokiji is done they double team the last guy.
Aokiji can mid diff both Doflamingo and Kizaru in a 1 vs 1 fight, so all Jozu would have to do it keep either one busy until Aokiji has won his battle. and this is possible because Doflamingos strings and Kizaru's lasers would have no affect on Jozu since he is diamond tank. after Aokiji is done they double team the last guy.
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Doffy beats jozu via parasite method and staying in air to avoid getting hit by him and proceeds to help kizaru defeat akoiji
While I feel akoiji is stronger then kizaru it's not by much and he can't dream to take on both kizaru and doffy at once he may be able to beat them individually but not together
While I feel akoiji is stronger then kizaru it's not by much and he can't dream to take on both kizaru and doffy at once he may be able to beat them individually but not together
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Kizaru can fire off a Yasa no Magatama. The bright light, not too mention the fact that it's a projectile would distract Aokiji. The bright light hinders Aokiji's sight, and Aokiji would be occupied with blocking the attack. Aokiji has already shown he can't freeze abstract objects, such as vibrations. He probably can't freeze energy, so the lights won't be frozen. While Aokiji defends from the Magatama, Kizaru could create a Mirror pathway. Aokiji won't be able to discern the pathway from the Magatama due to the brightness and the emitted light, so he probably won't strike it. Kizaru can direct it into to allow him to travel right behind Aokji, which would allow him to decapitate Aokiji with an explosive Haki-kick.
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lmaoo decapitate? thats a bit too much. you didn't mention Jozu or Doflamingo, so that means you believe Kizaru can take Aokiji? and the way you said it sounds like Aokiji gets low diffed. blinding him with light won't do much good he has CoO haki, and for Kizarus mirror path, thats easy to stop Rayleigh did it easily. Aokiji fought 10 days with Akainu with a df disadvantage, i'm pretty sure he can take Kizaru.
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Ohh I was talking about Aokiji vs Kizaru 1 vs 1.
Has Kuzan shown any CoO though? I don't recall him doing so.
And yeah. If Kizaru releases an explosive light blast at close range onto someone's head, he can definitely decapitate them.
I do think Kizaru can take Aokiji. See the difference between Rayleigh stopping Kizaru's path and the situation I described is that Rayleigh wasn't hindered by the light, he has shown CoO, and Rayleigh wasn't occupied by countering an attack like the situation I described.
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i think it said all admirals can use both CoO and CoA haki, even if the manga didn't it's pretty much assumed all admirals should have it, just like you assumed Kizaru can do a haki powered kick.
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It's said all Marines with the rank of Vice-Admiral and above can use Haki, not that they possess both types. Until he shows it, you can't say he has CoO.
All we can do is assume for both Kizaru & Aokiji. Like Black Mambe said, it's assumed that the admirals have at least the basic types of haki: CoO & CoA. I can't see how Aokiji wouldn't have CoO if he was fighting with Akainu for 10 days, it would of been a lot shorter if he didn't have CoO IMO. Aokiji must of had CoO if he was able to fight for that long with someone who had an element advantage over him (Akainu).
I don't think Kizaru can take on Aokiji. Aokiji already shown much better feats. and someone like Rayleigh who was a retired pirate/swordsman was able to hold his ground with Kizaru. He can be countered with observation haki which takes away the biggest asset to his ability: speed.
It's pretty much hinted in this SBS as well.:
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Since he said that "you're not that far off", suggests that Kizaru may of been excluded and he most likely agreed that Akainu is stronger than Aokiji but Kizaru isn't stronger than Aokiji. Akainu > Aokiji > Kizaru
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LOL Observation Haki wouldn't help that much when it comes to clashing their Devil Fruit powers. Armament Haki is more in the running for Haki that would help against that kind of things. Observation Haki can help you see attacks coming, but you can't avoid or block it if you don't already possess the ability to do so. If you're helpless to something, then Observation won't offer any help other than to let you know what you're about to get hit with. If Aokiji is at a disadvantage because of DF, then Observation or not, he'll still be at a disadvantage.
I could just as easily say "not that far off" means Kizaru and Aokiji are actually tied. Or, I could say that Kizaru is the one that's stronger, and Akainu and Aokiji are tied and Akainu happened to get lucky and pull ahead just enough to win, the same way Luffy and Lucci were tied but Luffy was able to slightly pull ahead. I could just as easily say if Aokiji and Akainu fought again, Aokiji could be the one to pull ahead at the right moment to win. Or since you can just make assumptions about Aokiji having Observation, why can't I assume that Akainu used some dirty tactic to win? He's done in at MF, how do we know he didn't cheat in some way to beat Aokiji?