[Discussion] Aokiji >= Akainu?

[SSS12]

We all what the outcome of the fight b/w Aokiji and Akainu for the position of Fleet Admiral was. Akainu won after a hard fight lasting 10 days. Now the question is did Akainu have a DF advantage over Aokiji? Magma being hotter than Ace's fire (which cancelled Aokiji's attack), does it have an edge over the Ice Ice Fruit?

Both characters can produce unlimited amount of lava/ice, but if a certain amount of magma clashes with an equal quantity of ice, the ice gets melted, doesn't it? Both are high level haki users, but both possess extremely powerful DFs too. From the looks of Aokiji's injuries (his missing leg and scars), they were burns. There can be no doubt both former admirals unleashed the full power of their DF on Punk Hazard. Haki wasn't the only factor.

So if Aokiji, being at a disadvantage put up such a great fight against Akainu, does it mean Aokiji is equal to or maybe stronger than Akainu? I mean, suppose they fought Rayleigh or Old WB one on one. Would Aokiji do better than Akainu, i.e. would Aokiji win more comfortably or lose in a much closer fight? What do you think?

 

[David1996]

I think they will fight again in the finale war, and Aokiji will be victorious this time.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

I don't get what you mean...:|

He may be on par, but since he was beaten and left alive, he's automatically weaker.

 

[Fireplay]

Well he had a DF disadvantage. I'd still say that Akainu is slightly stronger but in the final war Aokiji will win and become Fleet Admiral.

 

[VongolaX]

Akainu walked away unsheathed....

Kuzan's cool, but akainu is stronger

 

[Olorin]

imo if there was no type advantage than they would be almost equal

 

[TheHokage]

We have no idea what happened in the fight other than Akainu winning which immediately puts Akainu above Aokiji. From what we've seen Aokiji came off way worse than Akainu did.

Akainu > Aokiji.

 

[SSS12]

I don't get what you mean...:|

He may be on par, but since he was beaten and left alive, he's automatically weaker.

Okay, Was Enel weaker than Luffy when they fought? No. But Luffy had a DF Advantage. Hence he won. Of course, Akainu's DF advantage over Aokiji is to a much lesser degree, if any.

 

[Kuzan]

They are equals. If they werent equals the fight woundnt have lasted for 10 days. Apparently one wasnt really stronger than the other. Also, I dont think Ice would do so bad against Lava. When you cool-down lava fast enough it just turns into rock.

 

[Reaper]

It does intrest me as to what happened the 10th day that made Aokiji lose
I mean you dont go for that long if you are not dead even....it just feels that Akainu had more stamina

 

[kmrasengan]

Yeah no. Akainu beat him, and then spared his life because they were friends. Aokiji lost a limb in the fight, and so far we have seen Akainu in one piece, so I think that just shows that Akainu>Aokiji, not by much since their fight lasted for 10 days. And the DF advantage don't count as much because Ice would cool down Lava very fast turning it into rock.

 

[KcMSean]

Okay, Was Enel weaker than Luffy when they fought? No. But Luffy had a DF Advantage. Hence he won. Of course, Akainu's DF advantage over Aokiji is to a much lesser degree, if any.

On that, yea I'd say Enel was weaker. Just cause his df doednt work doesn't mean Luffy should have won. All he did was cancel out the fruit, which exposed how weak Enel actually was. But as for the OT: Aokiji imo opinion is weaker. Although if Akainu is 9, Aokiji is an 8.9. Extremely close, but still not as strong. Simply because he's too laid back, I don't think he has that killer mentality that Akainu possesses. That makes all the difference in a fight.

 

[SSS12]

On that, yea I'd say Enel was weaker. Just cause his df doednt work doesn't mean Luffy should have won. All he did was cancel out the fruit, which exposed how weak Enel actually was. But as for the OT: Aokiji imo opinion is weaker. Although if Akainu is 9, Aokiji is an 8.9. Extremely close, but still not as strong. Simply because he's too laid back, I don't think he has that killer mentality that Akainu possesses. That makes all the difference in a fight.

You may be right about Akainu being stronger than Aokiji, but no way Luffy was stronger than Enel at that point! Oda himself stated Enel could have had a bounty as high as 500 mil. Remember, Zoro and Sanji aren't too far behind Luffy, and they both lost 0 diff. His DF being negated was the biggest possible setback for Enel. A haki user could hit Enel, but Enel can also hurt him with thunder. But Enel couldn't even hurt Luffy with thunder, that was the problem. Logias in particular struggle when they're perfect defense is crushed. But in Enel's case, his offense was too. Enel also had the greatest seen (so far) KH.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I'd say Kuzan is stronger but because of his DF'S inferiority he couldn't fight to the fullest against Sakazuki...

 

[Fireplay]

We have no idea what happened in the fight other than Akainu winning which immediately puts Akainu above Aokiji. From what we've seen Aokiji came off way worse than Akainu did.

Akainu > Aokiji.

Well, we haven't seen Akainu yet. I'm pretty sure he got some permanent wounds aswell. But anyways, agreed.

 

[Reaper]

Well, we haven't seen Akainu yet. I'm pretty sure he got some permanent wounds aswell. But anyways, agreed.

It would be kinda stupid if he didnt
It wouldnt make sense for him to get out of a 10 day fight without any scars

Although unlike Aokiji he cant make himself a permanent body part so I doubt he will have too many big wounds

 

[SSS12]

Well he had a DF disadvantage. I'd still say that Akainu is slightly stronger but in the final war Aokiji will win and become Fleet Admiral.

You think they'll fight again? Interesting. Most would say Luffy will take on Akainu.

Akainu walked away unsheathed....

Kuzan's cool, but akainu is stronger

Unsheathed? I think you mean unscathed? We still have to see that. I think Aokiji isn't the only one with scars from that fight.

imo if there was no type advantage than they would be almost equal

You think?

It does intrest me as to what happened the 10th day that made Aokiji lose
I mean you dont go for that long if you are not dead even....it just feels that Akainu had more stamina

It was stated by Kuzan in Film Z that he lost his leg because he got careless. I wonder if that's also hopw he lost the fight? We've seen already that Akainu is a tank.

I'd say Kuzan is stronger but because of his DF'S inferiority he couldn't fight to the fullest against Sakazuki...

Is that what you think? Quite Possible.

 

[xcoyote]

Akainu >= Aokiji

 

[Avinash012]

Akainu > Aokiji

 

[SSS12]

Akainu >= Aokiji

Akainu > Aokiji

You think?