[Discussion] Anyone here still think Zorro=Smoker or Smoker> Zorro ?

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I do not lol but people kept saying smoker as luffys rival had to be close to strong as luffy or atleast stronger than his crew but zorro senpai to god like :ilu:
 

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XDXDXD Seriously? Zoro has always been right next to Luffy, who in their right mind would think Zoro = or< Smoky
 

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Yeah I'm sorry, Zoro>>Smoker. He's been way too impressive to be weaker, I'm starting to think Zoro=Law=Luffy.
 

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Zoro>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Smoker only someone on crack would think otherwise or haters that cant stand Zoro.
 

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luffy and zoro were always stronger than smoker they just didnt have the haki to hit him.
 

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Smokers not even in luffy and zoros league. In this chapter zoro said he was using his haki. Did they show him use armament haki on anything? If it showed, a scan would be nice
 

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Smokers not even in luffy and zoros league. In this chapter zoro said he was using his haki. Did they show him use armament haki on anything? If it showed, a scan would be nice

Yeah this is the first time we even see Zoro use hardening. He's been one shotting without it for quiet some time.
 

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Seems like someone's alt. posted this thread. XD I wonder who's alt. that is :p

Yeah, I still think Smoker is stronger.
 

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Seems like someone's alt. posted this thread. XD I wonder who's alt. that is :p

Yeah, I still think Smoker is stronger.
Fair enough its your opinion after all but you cant lie Zoro feats since timeskip>>>Smokers ;)
 

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Zoro is stronger....U_U
 

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Fair enough its your opinion after all but you cant lie Zoro feats since timeskip>>>Smokers ;)

Even with this latest chapter, I wouldn't say so. I don't think Pica's CoA is stronger than Vergo's, this chapter just showed his destructive feats. and CoA feats. Before I'd say Vergo would mid-diff. Zoro but now high-diff. sounds appropriate. The fact that Oda pretty much hinted that both Luffy and Smoker will be fighting again soon, suggests Smoker > Zoro. It's already bad enough that people think Smoker and Sanji are equals, some even say that Sanji is stronger. I'm not sure where this Smoker hate really stems from either.

PH wasn't a fair representation of Smoker's strength. I hope most of you guys even realize this. Does it really seem something like Oda to spend several years to form a rivalry between Smoker and Luffy, only to have Luffy mid-diff. Smoker? (going by the logic of some people that Sanji > Smoker)
 

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Even with this latest chapter, I wouldn't say so. I don't think Pica's CoA is stronger than Vergo's, this chapter just showed his destructive feats. and CoA feats. Before I'd say Vergo would mid-diff. Zoro but now high-diff. sounds appropriate. The fact that Oda pretty much hinted that both Luffy and Smoker will be fighting again soon, suggests Smoker > Zoro. It's already bad enough that people think Smoker and Sanji are equals, some even say that Sanji is stronger. I'm not sure where this Smoker hate really stems from either.

PH wasn't a fair representation of Smoker's strength. I hope most of you guys even realize this. Does it really seem something like Oda to spend several years to form a rivalry between Smoker and Luffy, only to have Luffy mid-diff. Smoker? (going by the logic of some people that Sanji > Smoker)

Pica performed the same CoA feat as Vergo the full body haki but Zoro cut through that almost effortlessly I don't think Vergo is that much stronger than someone who can perform the same feat as him.
Also the smoker representation as Luffy rival means that he is stronger than Zoro or equal to him is bullshit. Luffy has many rivals does that mean they are on the same level as him no. I think that the Punk Hazard was a fair representation of Smokers strength due to the fact that it showed us that Smoker needs to train more because his haki is not strong enough to stand up to even Law who someone who is more or less the same level as Luffy.
 

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Pica performed the same CoA feat as Vergo the full body haki but Zoro cut through that almost effortlessly I don't think Vergo is that much stronger than someone who can perform the same feat as him.
Also the smoker representation as Luffy rival means that he is stronger than Zoro or equal to him is bullshit. Luffy has many rivals does that mean they are on the same level as him no. I think that the Punk Hazard was a fair representation of Smokers strength due to the fact that it showed us that Smoker needs to train more because his haki is not strong enough to stand up to even Law who someone who is more or less the same level as Luffy.

Well, it's obvious that Vergo is an experienced haki user. We've seen him full body CoA during the Corazon flashback and even Doflamingo himself had a lot of faith in his CoA.

What rivals? Were any of them developed as much as the rivalry between Luffy and Smoker? I don't think so. I disagree with PH being fair representations to Smoker's strength either. We've seen nothing new out of his DF, all we saw him use was haki really. I agree it can improved upon but for him to show nothing new out of his DF over a 2 year TS isn't a fair representation.
 
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