Anyone else disappointed with shippuden?

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The same reason Madara can use Susanoo without his eyes - deus ex machina
Lol yeah
If they're forced into him then he can't regenerate unless they're remove, and since the rods restrict movement and chakra flow he cant get himself free.
the pressure points might be a mistranslation... although the pressure points do relate to chakra points
Hashirama said even if they were removed, he wouldn't be able to mold Chakra
 

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This is the vicious cycle of this Manga since I started reading from ch. 611:

Shinobi Alliance no Jutsu Troll - Madara and Obito w/Juubi backtrolls - Naruto giving Kyuubi Cloaks to Alliance Troll - Kill Neji and destroy Alliance HQ Backtroll - Shinobi Alliance attack Madara and Obito directly troll - Tenpenchì backtroll - Naruto uses Bijū Chakra to shield alliance troll - Juubi flower backtroll - Edo Hokages erect barrier on Juubi troll - Juubi clones backtroll - Kakashi tries to Kamui Juubi's head troll - Obito interfering backtroll - Madara forces Obito to use rinne tensei on him troll - Obito becomes Juubi's Jin backtroll - Juubi tries to overtake Obito troll - Obito controls Juubi backtroll - Obito uses Onmyoūdon troll - Naruto and co. uses Sage Mode Backtroll - Obito Nunoboko Sword Troll - Naruto and Alliance pulls the Bijūs out backtroll - Obito repents and prepares to use Rinne Tensei on Alliance Troll - Black Zetsu Backtroll - present.
 
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Now this isn't a hater thread on kishimoto, I buy the manga plus I love the series, however it should be obvious that the series isn't as good as it once was.

Let's just compare the fights. Back then, using the nine tails chakra tails was incredible to see. Everyone was in shock and awe and it was portrayed as destruction incarnate. Just with one tail, Naruto ripped Orochimaru's face in half. Compared to part 1, Naruto barely managed to beat Kabuto. Point being, everyone was always amazed to see the nine tails chakra tails come into a fight. We all knew whoever was fighting against it was going to have a bad day and it was going to be an amazing fight. Now even though Naruto has the chakra controlled (even when he had Kurama) it seems weaker if that makes sense. The destruction caused seems less immense along with the fact that it just doesn't seem special. It's like that girl you've been sleeping with for months. Just gets stale and old and you just want to throw her in the street. I'm not saying it's at that level, however seeing Kurama and Naruto fight together isn't that special anymore.
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Take the Itachi vs Sasuke fight, it was built up for over 200 chapters and when it happened, it was so amazing to read. Everyone loved seeing the character growth of sasuke and itachi. New jutsus were displayed, it had plot twist, and developed the story quite nicely. It set the story for a good 200 chapters. That fight alone helped set the stage for the shinobi world war along with everything up until now. That's a how a story should develop. One fight leads on to dozens more and builds upon an interesting story.

Nowadays seeing the bijuu fight is boring along with kage level ninja. I think Kishi went overboard in terms of the power scaling. In part 1, Orochimaru, Hashirama, Tobirama, vs Hiruzen was a battle that couldn't be compared to any battle in part one and some of part 2. Now it's normal for everyone to be kage level and to use bijuu powers along with everyone either having senju dna, sharingan, rinnegan etc. Just kinda made it boring. There was a ton of character growth and development in part 1 and beginning part 2. The power scaling was balanced and it was interesting. The series always had an interesting plot and it wasn't as stale as "senju dna sharingan rinnegan bijuu power." Just my 2 cents though.
@bold....i get what ur saying but the disrespect.....good god...
 

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I was when I was 12,didn't liked it at all. Watched it again at the age of 16,realised the meaning and message it is trying to convey,loved it since then. Naruto manga is the best.
 

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Read the bold, then read the underline, think about it, then read it again and let it sink in. It's not that the kyuubi cloak gets spammed, but it's not as powerful. Naruto when in four tails demolished the landscape he was in. He literally destroyed everything in his path, now that the chakra is under control, the destruction is weaker than compared to 4 or six tails.
i see what ur saying....its lost its destructive force.....but i guess it made up for that with speed and being able to cloak around others ya know? guess kishi dropped one attribute for another
 

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Naruto over exposure is the causr of it all.TNJ, ridiculous changing in villians personalities just because of a mediocre sppech naruto gives them, a complete lack of character development in anyone not name Sasuke ort Naruto.ention, i was expecting naruto progression as far more advances after he came back from training with Jiraiya.Naruto as the main protaganist is kind of weak compare to otjer manga leads.

Pardon the typos...android
 

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I think its still good, but I do wish Kishi had put a break after Obito's defeat and not jumped right into the battle against Madara.

Having two major bad guys at the center of two arcs in a row is just too much. I would rather have some arc in between maybe about the Shinobi Alliance regrouping. Some character interaction and talking.
 
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