[Spoilers] Anybody else seriously hyped for next week?!

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Obito kicking madara's ass, Sponsored by Satan.

 

[Seventh Sama]

yup, Obito is going to give madara a whoppin

 

[DeMaggio]

A plothole is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the "flow of logic" established by the story's plot. Minato not using SM against Obito goes against the flow of logic. Am I wrong there? Oh and it book smart not book smarts buddy.

Since when does fiction let alone manga have logic or even need it? No it doesn't go against the flow of logic it's for plot and epicness! You are very wrong. Oh and it's it's* not it buddy...

 

[DeMaggio]

Now stfu

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[cptenn94]

Not trying to get on you but people are allowed to hate or like a manga chapter. It all subjective you don't have to love everything that happens and to say to stop reading if we are going to complain is ignorant. We don't have to be Naruto zombies and love everything Kishi puts in front of us. This Chapter had plot holes and was all around not great. It was okay but that's about it.

And the biggest problem I had with the chapter is like you said the new generation is supposed to fight not Obito so Kishi needs to stop milking it and get to Naruto and Sasuke we all know they will defeat Madara.

Okay so if next chapter naruto and sasuke randomly kill madara its fine? Kishi is not really milking it. Its a thing called SET UP.

No movie is worth going to if you just go in there to see the hero defeat the villian. NO. You stick around and watch the plot build up, until the climax. Sometimes it can be slow. Sometimes its just like "uggg i just want it to get over already". And sometimes once you finish the movie that you were ugging about in the begininning, you wind up viewing it as really really good.

Im not saying kishis doing a amazing job or anything. Just that nothing to me seems like kishi is trying to milk it at all. Just that he is setting stuff up right now.
(and at least according to him, it seems he wants to end it already(in his last interview))

The best pieces, are when there is plenty of set up going on, and plenty of development.

Currently this is set up for the eventual confrontation of madara(by naruto and sasuke)

So far it really doesnt seem like obito is going to fight with madara. In my opinion.

Especially after the line " A leader doesnt walk over the bodies of his comrades, but he lets his comrades walk over his body"

To me it seems like he is takeing enough of madaras power, to revive naruto, and let naruto walk over his body to defeat madara.

You are right though. Everyone has the ability to like and hate chapters. Its just their opinions.

There were not really any plot holes this chapter though.(a plot hole is when a part of the plot contradicts something else in the plot.)

so unless i missed something there was nothing that contradicted the plot.

Anyways. You have your opinion and I have mine. I dont disrespect or say you are wrong, (or tell you to just stop reading) for your opinion, I just argue to show why I think what I do, and why I may disagree.

People just need to chill about the opinions. They are so "my opinion or the highway"

Anyways have a great night man.

 

[cptenn94]

A plothole is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the "flow of logic" established by the story's plot. Minato not using SM against Obito goes against the flow of logic. Am I wrong there? Oh and it book smart not book smarts buddy.

A plot hole is more when something in the plot contradicts something in the past of the manga(though there are some exceptions). A plot inconsistancy is when the flow of logic is disrupted(such as sasuke summoning hawks. It wasnt contradictiary to the plot, but came out of nowhere, and was not consitant with the plot.

A extreme plot inconsistancy can be viewed as a plothole.

For example in one piece Pell carried a bomb much to heavy for a bird his size to be capable of carrying. Then he magically survives a 5 km sized blast, that can obliterate the city and people(despite not being a monsterous powered person, or a really tough person). He doesnt lose limbs, and walks away just a day or so later. As there was nothing contradictiary to the plot directly(something saying he couldnt survive the bomb, and then he did), it isnt a direct plothole. But it was implied that he couldnt have survived. It went against the flow of logic.

A plot hole would be sasuke surviving deidara fight.

As shown in the past, summoning a large summon(like manda, or gamabunta) takes a large amount of chakra to do.

Yet sasuke with nearly no chakra magically summons manda with barely any chakra left.

So there is hole in the plot.

Minato not useing sm could be a plot inconsitancy. But as it was never said or shown he couldnt use it before there is no plot hole.

As to why he may not have used it vs obito.

If you noticed he didnt do much fighting himself once he lost his arm. Just supporting. And he already had naruto and sasuke with senjutsu(sasuke via juugo), who were doing most of the fighting themselves. Him useing senjutsu wouldnt have helped much.

It is also possible that he has a imperfect sage mode, and can only activate it for a short time. And since he did not attack much himself(with offensive attacks such as rasengan) vs obito, it really wouldnt be much use.


Minato not useing sm earlier is just simply "plot no jutsu". Not a plot hole.


edit:
It may just be a mistranslation. But minato says(or thinks) senjutsu. He doesnt say sage mode. So he may only be able to gather enough energy per attack(not enter the mode like naruto does)(seemingly like oro made senjutsu chakra for cm, but was unable to enter sage mode)

 

[Darkboy85]

Honestly, I'm more hyped by the fact that next week is chapter 666.

 

[Omar19992010]

I'm expecting Madara to say something epic like I'm not a God I'm the Devil or something like that or close to that

 

[SixPathsOfTobi]

heck yeah i'm hyped for next week...

"Madara is the one who denies this world. All the ones who follow his ideals and collaborate in the eye of the moon plan are Madara."

This chapter confirmed again that madara is satan and next chapter is 666.

Satan doesn't exist it's an ideal or just something you act like because you're manipulated.. in stead of we are many from one(god) we are one (satan/government) from many. like the eye of the moon plan.. Madara: "everything will become one with me".

Control is all about keeping the controlled in an illusion, (like infinite tsukuyomi) to keep them ignorant of their nature, of reality to keep them in fear for what would happen if their masters weren't there etc.
Ordo ab Chao.. order out of chaos.. they create chaos and then the people will scream for help please help us and then they step up and say okay but we need something in exchange you need to give away your freedom and give us more power.

Fear is illusion.