Any kages besides hashi that can beat the 3rd raikage?

[KCN]

minato would beat him. he simply seals him, nothing more nothing less.

 

[Mrmojo8484]

minato would beat him. he simply seals him, nothing more nothing less.

RDS? Its a suicide tech. Its not a win. Dummy.

 

[KCN]

RDS? Its a suicide tech. Its not a win. Dummy.

go do your research on minato. he has more than 1 sealing technique, im not explaining.

 

[sharingansennin]

i would have liked to see his black lightning ability

 

[Mrmojo8484]

go do your research on minato. he has more than 1 sealing technique, im not explaining.

Lol...so he can just run around sealing people? Who has he sealed?
You are the poster boy for stupid.

 

[KCN]

Lol...so he can just run around sealing people? Who has he sealed?
You are the poster boy for stupid.

the only idiot is the one who's hurling insults despite clearly knowing jack shit about minato.

 

[KidGamer65]

Tobirama only wins if he has Edo.

Minato only wins if he has intel.

I'd say everyone else loses.

 

[Conspirator.]

Tobirama only wins if he has Edo.

Minato only wins if he has intel.

I'd say everyone else loses.

Just wondering if you think trollkages joki boi explosion technique can kill the 3rd?

 

[KidGamer65]

Just wondering if you think trollkages joki boi explosion technique can kill the 3rd?

He'd tank it with no damage at all.

 

[Conspirator.]

@kidgamer65
One more thing. You said minato wins "with intel" If you are referring to the hachibi telling naruto about the nukite incident, that isn't going to work due to the raikage already having knowledge of what occurred, as I pointed out in my earlier post:

For the morons saying that "Minato is smart enough to figure out the 3rds weakness": What idiotic reasoning. What people need to realise is that the 3rd Raikage KNEW about what happened during the hachibi fight, which is why it was so shameful.(His own nukite piercing him.) He was so ashamed of it, that he didn't even tell his own son about it. Now, given the fact that this incident hurt him so much(emotionally speaking) does anyone honestly think that he's going to let that happen again? Before anyone brings up the gig which naruto did to take him out, that doesn't count, as the 3rd was f**king being controlled by Kabuto, who had no idea about the 3rds weakness. Does anyone think that the 3rd Raikage(alive) would fall for such an OBVIOUS trick.(given how careful and paranoid he was about his weakness.) The bottom line is that ALIVE Minato has ZERO ways to kill the 3rd, he gets outlasted,

OT-Besides Hashirama, Mu may have a shot as Jinton is one of the few things that can kill him(combined with invisibility.) Trollkage may have a small chance due to Joki boy and Tobirama due to his gojo technique, but I am not sure. Aside from that, he definitely beats the rest.

 

[Mrmojo8484]

the only idiot is the one who's hurling insults despite clearly knowing jack shit about minato.

Ok so enlighten me. What will he seal him with besides RDS?

 

[KidGamer65]

@kidgamer65
One more thing. You said minato wins "with intel" If you are referring to the hachibi telling naruto about the nukite incident, that isn't going to work due to the raikage already having knowledge of what occurred, as I pointed out in my earlier post:

Yup, completely forgot about that. I agree.

 

[Penguin]

I think Tobirama takes it by feats and portrayal. Minato takes it by portrayal but not feats. Uhmm.....Mu takes it via going invisible and flying in the air, then doing a big ass Jinton swipe.

 

[Beans2]

If either Muu, or Ohnoki fly high up in the sky and launch a Jinton that has the destructive force to eradicate an entire island with one shot, then The Third Raikage will not be able to avoid that radius. Not to mention, Jinton's launching speed is extremely fast. The Third didn't even dodge Temari's Fuuton.

Show me a scan of a tsuchikage eradicating an island. It was only Akatsuchi's speculation that Onoki would destroy the entire island, and his comment could be interpreted differnetly. The third raikage is easily one of the fastest ninja in the manga, and since Jinton has a very slow charge-up time the Raikage could start running before the Tsuchikage even gets a chance to launch it. The raikage didn't even try to dodge Temari's fuuton, and it was a wide-range Fuuton net cast by three ninja.

Please show me scans that insinuate Tsunade's destructive force is inferior to a Rasenshuriken and the Raikage enduring a TBB.

Lol, you seriously think Tsunade's punch is stronger than a Rasenshuriken? Besides, if Tsunade even thinks about entering close combat with the Raikage her head will get sliced up. The third Raikage's Hell Stab is canonically stronger than a Rasenshuriken, and would cut her head off. It was implied that Raikage tanked Gyuki's TBB, just like it was implied

 

[TobiramaWaterStyle]

The disrespect towards Yagura is alarming. Anyways Yagura beats the Third.

 

[genii96]

Honestly,this guy is overrated. Muu,onoki,minato,trollkage and a few others

 

[PlasticAngelx]

Oonoki
Muu
Minato
Tobirama
Gaara
Yagura
Fourth Kazekage
Second Mizukage

 

[ARGUS]

Muu takes him down
Tobirama with edos and minato with bm can beat him too

 

[A v i]

No, the 3rds durability shits on the 4th by feats-tanking a rasenshuriken with minimal damage is greater than anything AY. The third is stronger than his son-he has a greater amount of lightning attacks,black lightning, has greater stamina and endurance. The ONLY advantage ay has over the 3rd is v2.

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Once again nothing from your post suggets that 3rd is far stronger and I have already told you that I can agree with you if you think that 3rd is stronger but far stronger? it is not likely.Ay is more or less very close to his father in every aspect.I can agree with you on 3rd's armor being superior to 4th's but you should think again if you decided to say that his defence is shit.Even

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& even did a lil damage(not worth of mention) when he has his lightning armor ON and the same way Sasuke barely managed to touch 4th when he has his lightning armor on and no need to mention Chidori is superior to Rasengan when it comes to piercing.Not trying to say that 4th's armor is equal to 3rd or anything but his defence is definitely not shit compared to his father.

Oh, and the viz translation DID say he was the strongest-unless I see translations better and more reliable than the viz.

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It was direct japanese translation and is accurate.Trust me,it is not like Iam saying this because his trans supports my point,takL's translations are accutrate for sure.I don't have to use that trans to say that Minato is superior to the Sasuke that fought Bee.Minato beats that Sasuke and everyone in our base (exept may be blind Sasuke fanboys) thinks the same and I belive that you think the same.

It is the same guy who translated WSJ 670 Preview as you can see here.

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WSJ 670 Preview (Courtesy of YokoNaruto) :

WSJ 670 Preview:ナルト復活。。。！？謎の老人 に託されたものとは一体。。。！
Naruto fukkatsu. . . ! ? Nazo no rōjin ni takusareta mono to wa ittai. . . !

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Translated by takL:

"Naruto comes back...!? what on earth is it that was entrusted (to Naruto) by the mysterious old man....!?"

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^^^^ And it happend in todays chapter:Naruto is back and met an old man.

Ay wouldn't complement sasuke-but he was so enraged that sasuke "kidnapped" bee, that he wasn't thinking properly in the fight. And even if Minato is far greater than Ay, it means jack with respect to the third. The bottom line is alive Minato has ZERO ways of killing the third. That's the truth, summoning giant toads is doing to anything to the third, not when he fought the 2nd strongest bijuu to a stalemate physically.

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I don't get why your bringing 3rd & Minato's argument again.I have already told if you don't want to accept it then leave it.It is nothng more than waste of time.

So If 3rd can fight on par with a bijju then it means that he can survive if the same bijju sits on top of him? Lmao,one hell of a logic you got there.Whatever,Iam not trying to change your mind regarding this topic as your going to ignore whatever the point I made.There are things than can only be deduced by commonsense. My common sense says that FCD can atleast force him to deactivate him defence and you might think otherwise,I won't blame you for having a different opinion from me and I have no problem with it.your free to belive whatever you want and it is irrelevant for me.You belive FCD can't do anything but I belive that it can do something and we are not going to change our views regarding this topic so it is safe for both of us to agree to disagree with eachother so that we can save our time.

You've lost what little credibility you had saying minato can beat him with a jutsu we never seen.

Your logic is pathetic. And im going to show how pathetic it is. The 3rd raikage can solo minato with Black (insert animal name here ) Lightning jutsu. Remember, thats your logic right there.

There is a reason people dont bring up minatos unseen jutsu or the raikage unseen black lightning techs....because we've never seen them.

And that jutsu you keep talking about for tobirama. ...he made that jutsu specifically for edo. ...alive tobirama would never use it.

I almost feel sorry for you....almost. Pitiful.

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I don't even understand what to do after reading this post.Did you miss the part where I said if the jutsu lives up to it's hype?By portrayal as well as feats Raikages hell stab is his most powerful no matter how badly you look at it.Is there any hype that suggests that Raikages black lightning is so powerful and it can beat some like Minato? According to feats this black lightning of your is a good for nothing against top dogs and nothing suggests that Raikage is any better than Darui when it comes to black lightning on the hand Minato one of the smartest characters in NV thought that his jutsu can hurt Juubi's jinchurki Obito despite of knowing how durable he is.Minato with his own eyes clearly witnessed Tobirama's suicide attack which can potentially kill/badly hurt Raikage and he still thought that he can hurt Obito which means that his jutsu is atleast on par with Tobirama's suicide attack according to Minato.

I have manga hype supporting my claim and you think it is same as saying that Raikage can kill Minato with black lightning? How exactly those two logics are same? It is same because we have never seen them both even though portrayel puts Minato's jutsu above BL? No one is dumb enough to say character X can beat character Y jutsu because X has an unknown jutsu.I have manga statements supporting my claim and anyone with little intelligence can easily grasp something simple as this.If you don't want to accept manga hype then just say so then no one'll bring it up.It is not like you can change anything that was stated in manga just because you don't want to accept it.

You don't have to feel sorry for me as your opinion on my opinion won't change anything here.You posted a qustion and I shared my opinion if you don't want that kind of answers then feel free ignore them or just tell me that you disagree or you don't want to accept it then i'll stop posting or post anyother point,that's it.

Tobirama won't use it in battle? Is that a reason to say that he can't beat 3rd? He clearly used it in manga and there are statements that suggests that he used it when he is alive.It seems like your goal is to put 3rd over all other kages exept Hashirama no matter what which is why your bringing up lame ass excuses,sorry but you can't change something that was heavily implied in manga just because it hate to admit it.

 

[Mrmojo8484]

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Once again nothing from your post suggets that 3rd is far stronger and I have already told you that I can agree with you if you think that 3rd is stronger but far stronger? it is not likely.Ay is more or less very close to his father in every aspect.I can agree with you on 3rd's armor being superior to 4th's but you should think again if you decided to say that his defence is shit.Even

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& even did a lil damage(not worth of mention) when he has his lightning armor ON and the same way Sasuke barely managed to touch 4th when he has his lightning armor on and no need to mention Chidori is superior to Rasengan when it comes to piercing.Not trying to say that 4th's armor is equal to 3rd or anything but his defence is definitely not shit compared to his father.

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It was direct japanese translation and is accurate.Trust me,it is not like Iam saying this because his trans supports my point,takL's translations are accutrate for sure.I don't have to use that trans to say that Minato is superior to the Sasuke that fought Bee.Minato beats that Sasuke and everyone in our base (exept may be blind Sasuke fanboys) thinks the same and I belive that you think the same.

It is the same guy who translated WSJ 670 Preview as you can see here.


^^^^ And it happend in todays chapter:Naruto is back and met an old man.

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I don't get why your bringing 3rd & Minato's argument again.I have already told if you don't want to accept it then leave it.It is nothng more than waste of time.

So If 3rd can fight on par with a bijju then it means that he can survive if the same bijju sits on top of him? Lmao,one hell of a logic you got there.Whatever,Iam not trying to change your mind regarding this topic as your going to ignore whatever the point I made.There are things than can only be deduced by commonsense. My common sense says that FCD can atleast force him to deactivate him defence and you might think otherwise,I won't blame you for having a different opinion from me and I have no problem with it.your free to belive whatever you want and it is irrelevant for me.You belive FCD can't do anything but I belive that it can do something and we are not going to change our views regarding this topic so it is safe for both of us to agree to disagree with eachother so that we can save our time.

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I don't even understand what to do after reading this post.Did you miss the part where I said if the jutsu lives up to it's hype?By portrayal as well as feats Raikages hell stab is his most powerful no matter how badly you look at it.Is there any hype that suggests that Raikages black lightning is so powerful and it can beat some like Minato? According to feats this black lightning of your is a good for nothing against top dogs and nothing suggests that Raikage is any better than Darui when it comes to black lightning on the hand Minato one of the smartest characters in NV thought that his jutsu can hurt Juubi's jinchurki Obito despite of knowing how durable he is.Minato with his own eyes clearly witnessed Tobirama's suicide attack which can potentially kill/badly hurt Raikage and he still thought that he can hurt Obito which means that his jutsu is atleast on par with Tobirama's suicide attack according to Minato.

I have manga hype supporting my claim and you think it is same as saying that Raikage can kill Minato with black lightning? How exactly those two logics are same? It is same because we have never seen them both even though portrayel puts Minato's jutsu above BL? No one is dumb enough to say character X can beat character Y jutsu because X has an unknown jutsu.I have manga statements supporting my claim and anyone with little intelligence can easily grasp something simple as this.If you don't want to accept manga hype then just say so then no one'll bring it up.It is not like you can change anything that was stated in manga just because you don't want to accept it.

You don't have to feel sorry for me as your opinion on my opinion won't change anything here.You posted a qustion and I shared my opinion if you don't want that kind of answers then feel free ignore them or just tell me that you disagree or you don't want to accept it then i'll stop posting or post anyother point,that's it.

Tobirama won't use it in battle? Is that a reason to say that he can't beat 3rd? He clearly used it in manga and there are statements that suggests that he used it when he is alive.It seems like your goal is to put 3rd over all other kages exept Hashirama no matter what which is why your bringing up lame ass excuses,sorry but you can't change something that was heavily implied in manga just because it hate to admit it.

Bro....im losing respect for you debate skills.

How and when was it ever implied that tobirama use that jutsu before? If im not mistaken, he said he made it specifically for Edo use, hence blowing himself then regenerating. Where are you getting this stuff from?

As far as minato unseen jutsu. ..dont even mention them. There are no ifs or assumptions about it because we've never seen it. Dont even bring it up because its a moot point.