Any kages besides hashi that can beat the 3rd raikage?

[AGoodBoy]

There's quite a bit of them.

The problem is that people think he's as fast as ay, which is nonsense. He's fast, but not that fast.

 

[SIX PATHZ]

dnt see how this much ppl fight with the man who went par with hachibi and still stood. saw sme say tsunede can get him.

 

[Mrmojo8484]

It's already been stated over and over again in the manga that Hiruzen is the greatest Kage ever. So yeah aside from Hashirama, Hiruzen obviously takes him, Minato and Tobirama beat him comfortably. The Jinton Users i.e. Muu and Ohonoki kill the Raikage and we also know that TrollKage=Muu so he beats the Raikage.

1. Hiruzen
2. Hashirama
3. Minato
4. Tobirama
5. Muu
6. Ohonoki
7. TrollKage
8. Jin Garra with War feats
9. 6th Hokage Candidate Danzo
10. Future 6th Hokage Kakashi

^^ All beat the third.

Wow....sad day in naruto history. Hiruzen though? He gets instantly killed with hellstab speed blitz.

 

[Mrmojo8484]

This ^^. 3rd has strong body but he still gets injured. so he is killable.

Wtf are you talking about? What injured him?

Im so done with this thread. Apparently, alot of people here no nothing about this manga....smh.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Wtf are you talking about? What injured him?

Im so done with this thread. Apparently, alot of people here no nothing about this manga....smh.

Third Raikage is the third strongest Kage in my opinion.

 

[A v i]

Minato,Tobirama: They can beat him.


Muu,Onoki and may be 4th Raikage:It is not like these guys would win for sure but they have what it takes to win against him.

 

[miromiro]

Minato could high difficulty. Tobirama too.

 

[Mrmojo8484]

It's already been stated over and over again in the manga that Hiruzen is the greatest Kage ever. So yeah aside from Hashirama, Hiruzen obviously takes him, Minato and Tobirama beat him comfortably. The Jinton Users i.e. Muu and Ohonoki kill the Raikage and we also know that TrollKage=Muu so he beats the Raikage.

1. Hiruzen
2. Hashirama
3. Minato
4. Tobirama
5. Muu
6. Ohonoki
7. TrollKage
8. Jin Garra with War feats
9. 6th Hokage Candidate Danzo
10. Future 6th Hokage Kakashi

^^ All beat the third.

This thread fired me up.

1. I shouldn't even be arguing with someone who uses ABC logic. But for the sake is destroying you, ill do it.

2. Neither minato or tobirama or hiruzen for that matter can get past raiton armor. They have no jutsu strong enough to hurt him.

3.Muu and oonoki actually stand a decent chance if they can land a jinton which is extremely unlikely due to the kages speed

4. Mei gets blitz and anyone with decent speed owns garaa.

5. Trollkage loses because lightning hurts him

Dont be dumbn

 

[Conspirator.]

For the morons saying that "Minato is smart enough to figure out the 3rds weakness": What idiotic reasoning. What people need to realise is that the 3rd Raikage KNEW about what happened during the hachibi fight, which is why it was so shameful.(His own nukite piercing him.) He was so ashamed of it, that he didn't even tell his own son about it. Now, given the fact that this incident hurt him so much(emotionally speaking) does anyone honestly think that he's going to let that happen again? Before anyone brings up the gig which naruto did to take him out, that doesn't count, as the 3rd was f**king being controlled by Kabuto, who had no idea about the 3rds weakness. Does anyone think that the 3rd Raikage(alive) would fall for such an OBVIOUS trick.(given how careful and paranoid he was about his weakness.) The bottom line is that ALIVE Minato has ZERO ways to kill the 3rd, he gets outlasted,

OT-Besides Hashirama, Mu may have a shot as Jinton is one of the few things that can kill him(combined with invisibility.) Trollkage may have a small chance due to Joki boy and Tobirama due to his gojo technique, but I am not sure. Aside from that, he definitely beats the rest.

 

[Mrmojo8484]

It's already been stated over and over again in the manga that Hiruzen is the greatest Kage ever. So yeah aside from Hashirama, Hiruzen obviously takes him, Minato and Tobirama beat him comfortably. The Jinton Users i.e. Muu and Ohonoki kill the Raikage and we also know that TrollKage=Muu so he beats the Raikage.

1. Hiruzen
2. Hashirama
3. Minato
4. Tobirama
5. Muu
6. Ohonoki
7. TrollKage
8. Jin Garra with War feats
9. 6th Hokage Candidate Danzo
10. Future 6th Hokage Kakashi

^^ All beat the third.

This thread fired me up.

1. I shouldn't even be arguing with someone who uses ABC logic. But for the sake is destroying you, ill do it.

2. Neither minato or tobirama or hiruzen for that matter can get past raiton armor. They have no jutsu strong enough to hurt him.

3.Muu and oonoki actually stand a decent chance if they can land a jinton which is extremely unlikely due to the kages speed

4. Mei gets blitz and anyone with decent speed owns garaa.

5. Trollkage loses because lightning hurts him

Dont be dumbn

 

[Minator93]

This thread fired me up.

1. I shouldn't even be arguing with someone who uses ABC logic. But for the sake is destroying you, ill do it.

2. Neither minato or tobirama or hiruzen for that matter can get past raiton armor. They have no jutsu strong enough to hurt him.

3.Muu and oonoki actually stand a decent chance if they can land a jinton which is extremely unlikely due to the kages speed

4. Mei gets blitz and anyone with decent speed owns garaa.

5. Trollkage loses because lightning hurts him

Dont be dumbn

1. Kishi confirmed Hiruzen > 3rd Raikage, the dude can use 5 S+ranked jutsus of 5 different elements at same time. Raikage gets murked

2. Minato and Tobirama kill him with Hiraishin blitz U_U Minato has enough raw strength to kill the 3rd U_U

3. Jinton soloes and that is a fact U_U

4. Who dafuq said anything about Mei, Garra wins high diff U_U

5. TrollKage uses genjutsu GG U_U

 

[Bantos]

I'd say many of the kage beat him.

 

[A v i]

For the morons saying that "Minato is smart enough to figure out the 3rds weakness": What idiotic reasoning. What people need to realise is that the 3rd Raikage KNEW about what happened during the hachibi fight, which is why it was so shameful.(His own nukite piercing him.) He was so ashamed of it, that he didn't even tell his own son about it. Now, given the fact that this incident hurt him so much(emotionally speaking) does anyone honestly think that he's going to let that happen again?

I agree with you.Saying Minato can figure it out just because he is smarter than Naruto isn't a good & valid argument IMO.

Before anyone brings up the gig which naruto did to take him out, that doesn't count, as the 3rd was f**king being controlled by Kabuto, who had no idea about the 3rds weakness. Does anyone think that the 3rd Raikage(alive) would fall for such an OBVIOUS trick.(given how careful and paranoid he was about his weakness.)

No,nothing implies that SM Naruto wouldn't have been able to beat him if he is alive.Nothing suggests that he was careful about it when he was alive and Naruto's attack was super unpredictable.

The bottom line is that ALIVE Minato has ZERO ways to kill the 3rd, he gets outlasted,

Rasengan is clearly not Minato's most powerful jutsu.Despite of witnessing Tobirama's suicide attack and knowing how durable Juubi jinchuriki Obito is,Minato still thought that his jutsu with longass name can hurt Obito.I hope you can imagin how strong that jutsu would be.FCD works on Raikage,it may not be able to kill him or hurt him that much but it should able to atleast force him to turn off his defence which is an opening for Minato to kill the dude.

Incase if he has no choice,he can summon Ma & Pa and use SM.

 

[Conspirator.]

I agree with you.Saying Minato can figure it out just because he is smarter than Naruto isn't a good & valid argument IMO.



No,nothing implies that SM Naruto wouldn't have been able to beat him if he is alive.Nothing suggests that he was careful about it when he was alive and Naruto's attack was super unpredictable.



Rasengan is clearly not Minato's most powerful jutsu.Despite of witnessing Tobirama's suicide attack and knowing how durable Juubi jinchuriki Obito is,Minato still thought that his jutsu with longass name can hurt Obito.I hope you can imagin how strong that jutsu would be.FCD works on Raikage,it may not be able to kill him or hurt him that much but it should able to atleast force him to turn off his defence which is a opening for Minato to kill the dude.

Incase if he has no choice,he can summon Ma & Pa and use SM.

No,everything I said was right. The third raikage KNEW about his weakness, and given his personality, he would have extremely vigilant to make sure no one exposed it again. SM Naruto may be able to beat the 3rd, but I doubt he would do it as easily as he did.(once he got the info) The ONLY way I can see alive minato winning is if his rasen..(that long jutsu name-I forgot what it was called) lives up to the hype, of if he has some powerful SM enhanced wind elemental attacks. Sadly, based on feats the third wins.

 

[Ababeel]

1- Minato:

A, the Third son's admitted that there is no man can surpass Minato. Pretty sure he knows about his father's ability.

2- Hiruzen:

He hat the wind element, and was stated to be the strongest.

3- Onoki & Mu.

they can fly, and use jinton, if they touch the Raikage they can make him light, or very heavy that he can't more.

4- Yagura

He can use his mirror jutsu to, and thus making the Raikage more or less attack himself with his jutsu

5- Hashirama

His Buddha.

That's the kages that we know off, the others either they can't, or we don't really know anything about them.

 

[A v i]

No,everything I said was right. The third raikage KNEW about his weakness, and given his personality, he would have extremely vigilant to make sure no one exposed it again. SM Naruto may be able to beat the 3rd, but I doubt he would do it as easily as he did.(once he got the info)

Given his personality? We know next to nothing about his personality exept that he considers his defence as his pride.Nothing from Raikages fighting style would expose the weak point of Raikages defence,it would purely depends on amount of intel the opponent has and his intelligence.I have already told you Naruto's attack is super unpredictable even for smartest characters in NV.Raikage would definitely feel for it no matter how careful he is.

The ONLY way I can see alive minato winning is if his rasen..(that long jutsu name-I forgot what it was called) lives up to the hype, of if he has some powerful SM enhanced wind elemental attacks. Sadly, based on feats the third wins.

Kishi hyped it for a reason and no need to mention Minato has track record of defeating 4th Raikage on more than one occasion so he must have a way to deal with lightning armor.Whatever,by feats Minato wins this with FCD followed by Rasengan or Kunai slash.

 

[Conspirator.]

Given his personality? We know next to nothing about his personality exept that he considers his defence as his pride.Nothing from Raikages fighting style would expose the weak point of Raikages defence,it would purely depends on amount of intel the opponent has and his intelligence.I have already told you Naruto's attack is super unpredictable even for smartest characters in NV.Raikage would definitely feel for it no matter how careful he is.



Kishi hyped it for a reason and no need to mention Minato has track record of defeating 4th Raikage on more than one occasion so must have a way to deal with lightning armor.Whatever,by feats Minato wins this with FCD followed by Rasengan or Kunai slash.

A: The 4th Raikage is far weaker than his son. Furthermore, we haven't seen the 3rds full power either. He has black lightning, and given his massive chakra reserves, he can probably use it on a larger and more dangerous scale than darui.
B: It's easy to figure out the 3rds personality-he was a proud man who was extremely paranoid about anyone knowing his weakness.(why else would he not tell his son about the hachibi fight)
C: I don't care how unpredictable naruto is-that plan was obvious. The 3rd would know he was targetting his weakness and act accordingly.
D:Scans of Minato defeating the 4th? He may have outmanoeuvred the 4th, but there's ZERO evidence that his kunai would penetrate the raikages armour. Furthermore, the 3rd durability is far greater than his sons-Food cart destroyer isn't doing jack to him.

By feats, the 3rd Raikage wins.

 

[A v i]

A: The 4th Raikage is far weaker than his son. Furthermore, we haven't seen the 3rds full power either. He has black lightning, and given his massive chakra reserves, he can probably use it on a larger and more dangerous scale than darui.

Not sure where u got that bold part from but nothing implies that Ay is far weaker than his father and 3rd is Ay's father not son btw.Ay aslo has bijju level chakra it is nothing special and none of those attacks are going to work against Minato as he is too fast for 3rd.

B: It's easy to figure out the 3rds personality-he was a proud man who was extremely paranoid about anyone knowing his weakness.(why else would he not tell his son about the hachibi fight)

Everyone of knew that he puts pride above everything but nothing implies that he is careful about his defence.Yes,it is wise for anyone to be careful about your weak point so we can assume that he would be careful about his weakness with commonsense but nothing we have learned from him implies that he was careful about him weakness in real battle.Infact he don't have to be careful about it since there is noway in hell for anyone to learn about it without Raikage revealing it and it is not like anyone can figure it out just by looking at the wound of Raikage. As I have already told you no matter how careful he is,he would definitely feel for Naruto's trick as it is unpredictable.

C: I don't care how unpredictable naruto is-that plan was obvious. The 3rd would know he was targetting his weakness and act accordingly.

So your telling me 3rd knows what is going on inside Naruto's mind?

D:Scans of Minato defeating the 4th? He may have outmanoeuvred the 4th, but there's ZERO evidence that his kunai would penetrate the raikages armour. Furthermore, the 3rd durability is far greater than his sons-Food cart destroyer isn't doing jack to him.

It was clearly stated in manga that Minato defeated 4th on more than one occasion,it won't take a genius to understand the fact that you can't beat someone more than once without being stronger than him.If u choose to ignore manga statement just because it is against your argument then there is nothing I can do.

I didn't said that FCD can do jack to,I said it can force him to turn off his defence so that Minato can attack defenceless Raikage with Rasengan or Kunai.If u really think Raikage'll remain uneffected even after a bijju sized toad landed on top of him then it is beyond me and there is nothing I can do but stop this argument here.

 

[Conspirator.]

Not sure where u got that bold part from but nothing implies that Ay is far weaker than his father and 3rd is Ay's father not son btw.Ay aslo has bijju level chakra it is nothing special and none of those attacks are going to work against Minato as he is too fast for 3rd.




Everyone of knew that he puts pride above everything but nothing implies that he is careful about his defence.Yes,it is wise for anyone to be careful about your weak point so we can assume that he would be careful about his weakness with commonsense but nothing we have learned from him implies that he was careful about him weakness in real battle.Infact he don't have to be careful about it since there is noway in hell for anyone to learn about it without Raikage revealing it and it is not like anyone can figure it out just by looking at the wound of Raikage. As I have already told you no matter how careful he is,he would definitely feel for Naruto's trick as it is unpredictable.



So your telling me 3rd knows what is going on inside Naruto's mind?


It was clearly stated in manga that Minato defeated 4th on more than one occasion,it won't take a genius to understand the fact that you can't beat someone more than once without being stronger than him.If u choose to ignore manga statement just because it is against your argument then there is nothing I can do.

I didn't said that FCD can do jack to,I said it can force him to turn off his defence so that Minato can attack defenceless Raikage with Rasengan or Kunai.If u really think Raikage'll remain uneffected even after a bijju sized toad landed on top of him then it is beyond me and there is nothing I can do but stop this argument here.

The 3rd is more resilient and more powerful overall than his son by feats. The only advantage Ay has is speed. Where was it stated that Minato "DEFEATED" Ay many times? All that was stated was that they "FOUGHT" many times. Given the fact that Ay is alive, it's stupid to assume that Minato beat him every single time. And no, Naruto's "trick" was obvious. There was nothing unpredictable about it. The third would know based on his moves that he had figured out his weakness. Not that is a factor, as we don't even know if Minato will figure it out in the first place! And yes,FCD isn't doing anything to hurt the 3rd Raikage. Alive minato has zero ways of killing the third-a kunai or a rasnegan isn't going to cut. And, no the third can't touch minato, but his stamina is greater by feats.(fought 10000 shinobis for 3 days straight) so he can outlast him.

 

[Mrmojo8484]

1. Kishi confirmed Hiruzen > 3rd Raikage, the dude can use 5 S+ranked jutsus of 5 different elements at same time. Raikage gets murked

2. Minato and Tobirama kill him with Hiraishin blitz U_U Minato has enough raw strength to kill the 3rd U_U

3. Jinton soloes and that is a fact U_U

4. Who dafuq said anything about Mei, Garra wins high diff U_U

5. TrollKage uses genjutsu GG U_U

1. Kishi also confirmed no attack can hurt the 3rd raikage cept his own. Fact.

2. Again, no physical attack will hurt him cept his own. Fact.

3. Jinton will work, but won't touch him.

4. Garaas sand won't keep up. He'll stab shatters sand defenses.

5. Trollkage genjutsu is a mirage. It does no damage.


Dude...do you bother to read the manga? I think your either in denial or just stupid. Actually, I think your just stupid.