Another shooting at a local community and Elementary School.

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Children were still hurrying in when the gunman’s white pickup truck came tearing down the street and crashed into the school’s locked gate at 7:56 a.m. A man later identified as Kevin J. Neal jumped out, wielding a semiautomatic rifle and wearing a vest packing ammunition, authorities said.

Police said that in the hours leading up to that moment, Neal had killed his wife and hidden her body beneath the floorboards of their home. He later began a bloody rampage across this community about 135 miles north of Sacramento, ultimately killing five people and injuring several others.

Police say Neal drove around the small community of Rancho Tehama Reserve, firing for at least 25 minutes at vehicles, homes and people in his path, targeting those he had quarreled with and complete strangers alike.

During his rampage, Neal intentionally crashed into a car and then fired at passengers as they got out, killing one, Johnston said. At another point, he shot a woman driving her children to school, seriously injuring her and wounding one of the young children in her back seat. School officials believe those were the shots heard at the nearby elementary school, triggering the lockdown.

“I really don’t know what his motive was,” said Phil Johnston, an assistant sheriff in Tehama County. “I think he was just on a rampage. I think he had a desire to kill as many people as he could.”



Red flags

Neal’s family had long worried about his mental state, and he had a number of run-ins with law enforcement in North Carolina before moving to California a decade ago.

Relatives had sought to get him treatment for what they believed was a mental illness, according to his sister, Sheridan Orr. She described the tragedy of the past two days as her worst fear come to life.

“If you could’ve seen him in those rages,” Orr, 46, said in a telephone interview. “Anything was possible.”

Neal’s behavior escalated from a bad temper as a teenager to something more uncontrollable as he got older, Orr said. When he would call family members in a rage, they would tell him that he needed to go to a mental health facility and that he needed medication. He would always refuse and never received an official diagnosis, Orr said.

“He never should have had guns, and he should’ve been able to get mental health care,” she said.




 

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“He never should have had guns, and he should’ve been able to get mental health care,” she said.

bottom line at the end of the day. I don’t want to hear how we need guns to protect us from the government. The “government” isn’t killing us. Civies with far too easy access to guns are killing us.
 

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He's mentally ill but when muslims do the same they're terrorists... ok...
But that's literally the case???? The past 3 mass shooters had a history of mental instability did suffer from mental illnesses with no known cause behind their shootings outside of harming as many people as they possibly could, and the past 3 attacks committed by Muslims in the U.S were done explicitly in the name of Islam.

Terrorist are not classified by their motives, not entirely by their actions. You could make an argument that the Texas shooter was a terrorist because he did show resentment towards Christians, and spewed anti-Christian rhetoric all over his social media, meaning his motives were religious based.
 

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But that's literally the case???? The past 3 mass shooters had a history of mental instability did suffer from mental illnesses with no known cause behind their shootings outside of harming as many people as they possibly could, and the past 3 attacks committed by Muslims in the U.S were done explicitly in the name of Islam.

Terrorist are not classified by their motives, not entirely by their actions. You could make an argument that the Texas shooter was a terrorist because he did show resentment towards Christians, and spewed anti-Christian rhetoric all over his social media, meaning his motives were religious based.
People who kill other people are mentally ill. and that's that
 

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But that's literally the case???? The past 3 mass shooters had a history of mental instability did suffer from mental illnesses with no known cause behind their shootings outside of harming as many people as they possibly could, and the past 3 attacks committed by Muslims in the U.S were done explicitly in the name of Islam.

Terrorist are not classified by their motives, not entirely by their actions. You could make an argument that the Texas shooter was a terrorist because he did show resentment towards Christians, and spewed anti-Christian rhetoric all over his social media, meaning his motives were religious based.
Anyone who causes terror is a terrorist period.
 

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Terrorism requires political motivation. Random white guys aren't really terrorists, they are crazy gun nuts who shouldn't have had access to guns.

If they do the killing in the name of some political belief (Anti gay, black, religion, america, or in retaliation to a politically charged circumstance) then they are a terrorist.

There are multiple white mass shooters who fit the description, but when complaining about the (very real) perceived bias towards race in media described shootings, make sure your facts are straight.

This is aimed at nobody specifically in the thread, just generally towards the discussion that took place.
 

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He's mentally ill but when muslims do the same they're terrorists... ok...
People who kill other people are mentally ill. and that's that
Just look at their mental state. A mentally ill person is doing this because they are mentally ill. A Muslim person is shooting people or detonating explosives because that is what they feel their religion tells them they should be doing. See how there is a difference?

The Muslim person can be seen as mentally ill and the mentally ill person can also be seen as a terrorist. Quit getting hung up on the labels.

Anyone who causes terror is a terrorist period.
That's just intellectually dishonest. A terrorist can also be mentally ill.
 

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People who kill other people are mentally ill. and that's that
Unless those people believe their killing is justified as a dictate from the one and true God, then it's just being religious.
Anyone who causes terror is a terrorist period.
There's a movement of leftist who are trying to turn terrorist and the concept of terrorism, which is a specific classification of crime, into a buzzword as damage control for the overwhelming amount of terrorist attacks committed by Muslims. If they broaden the term of terrorism to literally "any crime that causes terror" (which is NOT the defining factor of a terrorist attack), then they can include whites under that label and remove the negative stigma around terrorism being a crime strictly committed by Muslims .

Youre wrong if you think any crime that causes terror is an act of terrorism.
 

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He was a danger to himself and others. The law enforcement could have stopped him before it escalated to that point and the family could have testified, thus seeking help. The problem is no one cared to take those extra steps.
 

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He's mentally ill but when muslims do the same they're terrorists... ok...
I don't think you get the point,here...a bunch of people were shot at.

Muslims are mentally ill, too. Religion is a form of mental illness.
Certainly an invitation to one.

Stfu seriously. We all know the the media is corrupt.
This guy was also a terrorist.
haha..

People who kill other people are mentally ill. and that's that
depends. Totally depends.It depends on your position, circumstances, and why you're doing it.

Let's just be glad it didn't end up like Sandy Hook.
Glad?Why be glad?People got killed, and this can still happen again.We shouldn't be glad, at all.

He was a danger to himself and others. The law enforcement could have stopped him before it escalated to that point and the family could have testified, thus seeking help. The problem is no one cared to take those extra steps.
I think you care more about legal rights, rather than the fact that people were murdered for no reason.
 

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Is anyone just numb to all this? Mass shootings, terror attacks, sexual assault, mass riots, I think I've finally been desensitized to it all.

Imagine if this happened sometime in the early 2000s, this story would have been headline news on all media outlets, victims would have been mourned for on a national level, and the teachers who shut down the school would have been lionized as heroes, but in 2017 a mass shooting or terror attack is sideline news. And it seems like sexual assault charges and allegations are going down the same route.
 

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Is anyone just numb to all this? Mass shootings, terror attacks, sexual assault, mass riots, I think I've finally been desensitized to it all.

Imagine if this happened sometime in the early 2000s, this story would have been headline news on all media outlets, victims would have been mourned for on a national level, and the teachers who shut down the school would have been lionized as heroes, but in 2017 a mass shooting or terror attack is sideline news. And it seems like sexual assault charges and allegations are going down the same route.
That's because people don't like to accept reality and would prefer to live in blissful ignorance.

Opening your eyes to the truth of the matter and realizing that your own perception of things is wrong is hard to do.
 
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