I notice that anything kamui marks like he did with the six path tools
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Can be summoned whenever the user weaves a summoning seal. This applies to all objects that have been touched.
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No blood contract required. I'm sure it could apply to all space time jutsus because space time ninjutsu transport one object to the next place instantly. And summoning jutsu is also a space time ninjutsu too.
You use a contract to summon which usually typically require blood or life force. But you're wrong with blood being needed to summon only living beings because madara and tobi summon the kyuubi without it.
Those don't exist. If he wants to store an item or a jutsu like Jiraiya, Ten ten, and Hashirama, he would need a sealing scroll. Something he did not posses.
Those don't exist. If he wants to store an item or a jutsu like Jiraiya, Ten ten, and Hashirama, he would need a sealing scroll. Something he did not posses.
Sasuke stored shuriken in bandages in his sleeves, and Obito had enough Fuinjutsu skill to seal the ten tails into himself while semi-dead. I don't think a storage seal that works like that would be a feat too big for him.
Some speculation done through in-depth research and some other from very light constructive thinking and there also a speculation done for the sake to speculate, means having a weak base.
And for this thread I'm not feeling interested to do some speculation as this subject never cross my mind.
Sasuke stored shuriken in bandages in his sleeves, and Obito had enough Fuinjutsu skill to seal the ten tails into himself while semi-dead. I don't think a storage seal that works like that would be a feat too big for him.
Again bro. Sasuke's shuriken storage was on a scroll that he left in his sleeves.
Tobi does not have special scroll riskbands like Sasuke and Sasuke doesn't need to wave seals to use them like Tobi did. All he did is just touches the scroll seals on his wrist like Hashirama and ten ten do to their scrolls to summon their own weapons.
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And the fuuinjutsu that he used to seal the ten tails is the six path jutsu that Madara taught him before he left the cave. Six path ten tails coffin seal. This is completely different then what madara taught him. It's in correlation with kamui.
Some speculation done through in-depth research and some other from very light constructive thinking and there also a speculation done for a sake to speculate, means having a weak base.
You mean that biased weak flawed theory that is agreed upon illogical sub section conformists?
How coy. This conclusion was carefully considered after reading and executing every possible solution for why he posses a summoning contract for an item he just came in contact with in a single touch.
And for this thread I'm not feeling interested to do some speculation as this subject never cross my mind.
Sasuke stored shuriken in bandages in his sleeves, and Obito had enough Fuinjutsu skill to seal the ten tails into himself while semi-dead. I don't think a storage seal that works like that would be a feat too big for him.
Again bro. Sasuke's shuriken storage was on a scroll that he left in his sleeves.
Tobi does not have special scroll riskbands like Sasuke and Sasuke doesn't need to wave seals to use them like Tobi did. All he did is just touches the scroll seals on his wrist like Hashirama and ten ten do to their scrolls to summon their own weapons.
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And the fuuinjutsu that he used to seal the ten tails is the six path jutsu that Madara taught him before he left the cave. Six path ten tails coffin seal. This is completely different then what madara taught him. It's in correlation with kamui.
I didn't say he was using the seal he used to seal the juubi in himself as a way to keep the gourd, I was saying it showcases his skill in Fuinjutsu, and that a storage seal without a scroll would be a more likely possibility than what you presented, as someone else pointed out that Hiruzen did the same thing with his shuriken too, and he has no kamui. Furthermore we've seen Obito calling on things he stores in the Kamui dimension before, and it was never anything like that.
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It would make no sense for this to be shown any different when it was shown many times already how he calls on items stored in the Kamui dimension.
Again bro. Sasuke's shuriken storage was on a scroll that he left in his sleeves.
Tobi does not have special scroll riskbands like Sasuke and Sasuke doesn't need to wave seals to use them like Tobi did. All he did is just touches the scroll seals on his wrist like Hashirama and ten ten do to their scrolls to summon their own weapons.
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And the fuuinjutsu that he used to seal the ten tails is the six path jutsu that Madara taught him before he left the cave. Six path ten tails coffin seal. This is completely different then what madara taught him. It's in correlation with kamui.
You mean that biased weak flawed theory that is agreed upon illogical sub section conformists?
How coy. This conclusion was carefully considered after reading and executing every possible solution for why he posses a summoning contract for an item he just came in contact with in a single touch.
And there's a clear reason why you were incapable of in the first place. Bye.
Yeah, I read somewhere or it was a theory (I can't remember), but he marks the object with his chakra to be summoned later. It was different from a scroll summoning, which stores the object into a scroll and the size and mass must be proportionate to the chakra.
I didn't say he was using the seal he used to seal the juubi in himself as a way to keep the gourd, I was saying it showcases his skill in Fuinjutsu, and that a storage seal without a scroll would be a more likely possibility than what you presented, as someone else pointed out that Hiruzen did the same thing with his shuriken too, and he has no kamui. Furthermore we've seen Obito calling on things he stores in the Kamui dimension before, and it was never anything like that.
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It would make no sense for this to be shown any different when it was shown many times already how he calls on items stored in the Kamui dimension.
Tobi isn't going to propel the sage's tools like a fighting projectile shuriken and Hiruzen did not do the same. Do you not know the difference between a summoning technique and a shuriken shadow clone technique?
And using sealing techniques specifically taught by Madara is different then your broad assumption of a random sealing technique of just because.
Madara said he'll teach him coffin seal where as Tobi touching an item with absolutely no seals in his hands then summoning it later is completely different.
You can't say he knows a sealing technique therefore that summoning technique was just some random type of sealing technique.
What you're asking for requires a tag or seal to be place which you have no plausible evidence to prove that.
This also makes no sense seeing as he needs at least one single shuriken to make shadow clones out of for this jutsu to work.
What doesn't make sense? What kishi said? It's a shuriken dopple ganger jutsu, not a sealing technique. You're assumption here is too broad and not plausible. He did the same jutsu against Orochimaru.
Quoting Bane and involving someone else's mother. It's like President Tump just made a random account to ruined this thread with some alternative facts.
Yeah, I read somewhere or it was a theory (I can't remember), but he marks the object with his chakra to be summoned later. It was different from a scroll summoning, which stores the object into a scroll and the size and mass must be proportionate to the chakra.
Hiruzen did not do the same. Do you not know the difference between a summoning technique and a shuriken shadow clone technique?
And using sealing techniques specifically taught by Madara is different then your broad assumption of a random sealing technique of just because.
Madara said he'll teach him coffin seal where as Tobi touching an item with absolutely no seals in his hands then summoning it later is completely different.
You can't say he knows a sealing technique therefore that summoning technique was just some random type of sealing technique.
What you're asking for requires a tag or seal to be place which you have no plausible evidence to prove that. What doesn't make sense? What kishi said? It's a shuriken dopple ganger jutsu, not a sealing technique. You're assumption here is too broad and not plausible. He did the same jutsu against Orochimaru.
......it is called Shadow Clone Shurken Jutsu because he can make copy of shuriken right?
Well, for him to make copies, he needs an original shuriken for it to work. In both the pages you see him drawing, or in the later case unsealing, an original shuriken before he uses the jutsu. With no scroll, at that.
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There is no way the shuriken he unsealed was a copy because there were no other ones for him to copy it out of. Right? Right
Now, I will again tell you that I am not saying that he is using anything related to the Juubi Jinchuuriki Seal other than the fact that both are seals. But it does prove that he is skilled in Fuinjutsu since he can use it. If he is skilled in Fuinjutsu and could learn such a complicated seal, it is not impossible that he is able to create a far simpler storage seal to keep the gourd in. Since both are Fuinjutsu.
Its like saying that because Madara could produce a Great Fire Anihilation, it is probable that he is capable enough to pull off a simple fireball jutsu, even if we never seen him do so.
But again, I am not claiming this for sure. I am just saying that its the more possible of the ways this could work since it doesn't coincide with the way he uses Kamui, which is what you're suggesting.
......it is called Shadow Clone Shurken Jutsu because he can make copy of shuriken right?
Well, for him to make copies, he needs an original shuriken for it to work. In both the pages you see him drawing, or in the later case unsealing, an original shuriken before he uses the jutsu. With no scroll, at that.
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There is no way the shuriken he unsealed was a copy because there were no other ones for him to copy it out of. Right? Right
You need to know the huge significant difference that I already told you in my former post. That is met on first contact.
Hiruzen for starters is an edo tensei. Both him Tobirama and Minato where resurrected with ninja tools without any scrolls of any kind. Meaning that edo tensei brought them back in the state they were in prior to their deaths (arsenal included).
Minato had ftg, Tobirama had a kunai knife, and Hiruzen had a shuriken with Enma staff. I've seen even Itachi pull a shuriken out of nowhere and deflected Sasuke's shuriken in edo tensei
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Edo tenseis where given natural ninja tools shuriken and kunai knife.
As for specialized tools such as the sage of six paths tools, he never had them before in his possession. And unlike the kunai knife and shuriken stars that every edo tensei was given for some unknown reason is different from the sage's tools because they're is only one in existence.
When you have a special tool that is a one of a kind, you need a scroll to summon those things. A good example is the seven swordsmen's swords.
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You don't know if hiruzen expanded the size of the shuriken he already had or he has a tool contract to the shurikens too. Because unlike Tobi, this is a weapon he just posses prior to unlike edo hiruzen who's using a basic ninja tool that all edos have. Right? Right.
Now, I will again tell you that I am not saying that he is using anything related to the Juubi Jinchuuriki Seal other than the fact that both are seals. But it does prove that he is skilled in Fuinjutsu since he can use it. If he is skilled in Fuinjutsu and could learn such a complicated seal, it is not impossible that he is able to create a far simpler storage seal to keep the gourd in. Since both are Fuinjutsu.
I already addressed this. The one fuinjutsu he used was taught. He doesn't just have a natural skill for it, it was taught to him after he left the cave. You are giving a broad assumption here.
Because I could say that Orochimaru is skilled in fuinjutsu more than anybody else in the series, but does that mean he knows/preform six path coffin seal too just because he's so skilled now does it? No it clearly does not.
Its like saying that because Madara could produce a Great Fire Anihilation, it is probable that he is capable enough to pull off a simple fireball jutsu, even if we never seen him do so.
You're basically saying that madara knows Great Fire Anihilation therefore he is capable of using Hiruzen's hidan fire techniques Fire Release: Ash Pile Burning and Fire Release: Great Flame Technique or even Amatersu because madara is so skilled.
That's not the case. Madara being able to use majestic destroyer or great fire annihilation is because it is a uchiha clan fire based attack. He learned this within his clan. All other firestyle techniques he picked up was either created by him or copied by his sharingan.
But again, I am not claiming this for sure. I am just saying that its the more possible of the ways this could work since it doesn't coincide with the way he uses Kamui, which is what you're suggesting.
