[Discussion] Anime Haki?

[chopstickchakra]

Has there been an explanation yet why there's two haki colors in the anime? I noticed it again with the G4 fight.

Doffy's haki was black yet Luffy's was a pinkish/magenta color on his arms yet the haki around his shoulders/back looked like it was still black. I also noticed the anime has given colored haki to bigger guys(Vergo when his body puffed up, Pica, G4 Luffy) could the coorelation be to the size of the user for some reason, if so why?

Also it is called color of armament, maybe there is something more to it than just black, maybe there's varying levels of haki represented by colors(though that sounds unlikely and kind of dumb)

I'm also curious about invisible haki, if that's a real thing or if Oda was just keeping the blackened skin aspect hidden until his planned reveal? Is invisible haki like that used by Garp and Sentomaru better/stronger than visible black/purple haki? Is that why none of the high tiers who used haki at MF showed black skin?

 

[scorezor]

Has there been an explanation yet why there's two haki colors in the anime? I noticed it again with the G4 fight.

Doffy's haki was black yet Luffy's was a pinkish/magenta color on his arms yet the haki around his shoulders/back looked like it was still black. I also noticed the anime has given colored haki to bigger guys(Vergo when his body puffed up, Pica, G4 Luffy) could the coorelation be to the size of the user for some reason, if so why?

Also it is called color of armament, maybe there is something more to it than just black, maybe there's varying levels of haki represented by colors(though that sounds unlikely and kind of dumb)

I'm also curious about invisible haki, if that's a real thing or if Oda was just keeping the blackened skin aspect hidden until his planned reveal? Is invisible haki like that used by Garp and Sentomaru better/stronger than visible black/purple haki? Is that why none of the high tiers who used haki at MF showed black skin?

yeah , i know why that's happening , hold on.

[video=youtube;IOoacM0Fj9c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOoacM0Fj9c[/video]

i think is this link

 

[Love Cook]

I think it's to be able to define muscles and outlines and other stuff that is black like Luffy's hair.

If the anime would make everything a solid black they can't draw details or lines within the black. Oda in the manga can use black and white and use the white to separate Luffy's arm from his chest when he is holding it in front of him. In the anime it would look weird if they use white around him.

If they use a dark red or a deep purple, they still have black available to draw his outlines.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I think it's to be able to define muscles and outlines and other stuff that is black like Luffy's hair.

If the anime would make everything a solid black they can't draw details or lines within the black. Oda in the manga can use black and white and use the white to separate Luffy's arm from his chest when he is holding it in front of him. In the anime it would look weird if they use white around him.

If they use a dark red or a deep purple, they still have black available to draw his outlines.

^^^This basically.

And the invisible variant is real. Rayleigh defined Haki as an "invisible shield." Koka is just an advanced form of it.

 

[chopstickchakra]

^^^This basically.

And the invisible variant is real. Rayleigh defined Haki as an "invisible shield." Koka is just an advanced form of it.

So you're saying Koka(which is the blackening/coloring correct?) is stronger than the invisible form? Then how come Garp and Rayleigh and the likes had an invisible form? Or all the top tier fighters at MF? Also Rayleigh said it was an invisible haki so was the color change ever actually acknowledged in story or is it simply a visual device for the readers, i.e. do the characters see a black fast or do they just still see a fist?

I think it's to be able to define muscles and outlines and other stuff that is black like Luffy's hair.

If the anime would make everything a solid black they can't draw details or lines within the black. Oda in the manga can use black and white and use the white to separate Luffy's arm from his chest when he is holding it in front of him. In the anime it would look weird if they use white around him.

If they use a dark red or a deep purple, they still have black available to draw his outlines.

I don't really see why white wouldn't work in the anime as well or use a light gray to line the muscles? They do black haki for other characters without adding purple to it. Also now we have shades of purple coming into play, Vergo's was a much more purple color than Luffy's.

 

[Love Cook]

So you're saying Koka(which is the blackening/coloring correct?) is stronger than the invisible form? Then how come Garp and Rayleigh and the likes had an invisible form? Or all the top tier fighters at MF? Also Rayleigh said it was an invisible haki so was the color change ever actually acknowledged in story or is it simply a visual device for the readers, i.e. do the characters see a black fast or do they just still see a fist?



I don't really see why white wouldn't work in the anime as well or use a light gray to line the muscles? They do black haki for other characters without adding purple to it. Also now we have shades of purple coming into play, Vergo's was a much more purple color than Luffy's.

Yea well I'm not an expert on animation and art but I don't think white is a good color to work with. It's probably just a choice they made. I know they did the same for Gear 2 where they made Luffy pinkish in the anime after consulting Oda. Animators said it would be hard to make Luffy look like he is in G2 if hw only has the steam effect. Oda agreed to that and he started using it in the manga too (color spreads) That is one example where the manga follows the anime instead of the other way around.

As for the Marineford case, I think Oda drew the line when Rayleigh started explaining haki. Basically Luffy (and the reader) didn't really understand what was going on in the haki department, so Oda wouldn't draw it but the top tiers were definitely using it. It would be out of place if we suddenly saw ll the strong fighters with black limbs all of a sudden. I bet that in the next war that it would be the other way around and that we barely see any fighters who don't use invisible haki.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Yea well I'm not an expert on animation and art but I don't think white is a good color to work with. It's probably just a choice they made. I know they did the same for Gear 2 where they made Luffy pinkish in the anime after consulting Oda. Animators said it would be hard to make Luffy look like he is in G2 if hw only has the steam effect. Oda agreed to that and he started using it in the manga too (color spreads) That is one example where the manga follows the anime instead of the other way around.

As for the Marineford case, I think Oda drew the line when Rayleigh started explaining haki. Basically Luffy (and the reader) didn't really understand what was going on in the haki department, so Oda wouldn't draw it but the top tiers were definitely using it. It would be out of place if we suddenly saw ll the strong fighters with black limbs all of a sudden. I bet that in the next war that it would be the other way around and that we barely see any fighters who don't use invisible haki.

True, I was just wondering if people thought there may be something to the "color of Arms" title and the different colors we've seen.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yea well I'm not an expert on animation and art but I don't think white is a good color to work with. It's probably just a choice they made. I know they did the same for Gear 2 where they made Luffy pinkish in the anime after consulting Oda. Animators said it would be hard to make Luffy look like he is in G2 if hw only has the steam effect. Oda agreed to that and he started using it in the manga too (color spreads) That is one example where the manga follows the anime instead of the other way around.

As for the Marineford case, I think Oda drew the line when Rayleigh started explaining haki. Basically Luffy (and the reader) didn't really understand what was going on in the haki department, so Oda wouldn't draw it but the top tiers were definitely using it. It would be out of place if we suddenly saw ll the strong fighters with black limbs all of a sudden. I bet that in the next war that it would be the other way around and that we barely see any fighters who don't use invisible haki.

I don't recall a single color spread where Luffy's skin was pink in Gear 2. Could you link one?

 

[Bogard]

They just want it to look cool. Sometimes they're exaggerating the red part though but i particularly loved the way they designed Doflamingo's heavenly demonic conqueror haki

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

They just want it to look cool. Sometimes they're exaggerating the red part though but i particularly loved the way they designed Doflamingo's heavenly demonic conqueror haki

When did they do that ?

 

[Punk Hazard]

When did they do that ?

When he used Athlete on Luffy a couple episodes back.

 

[Fireplay]

I think Haki is invisible, the blackening is just for us readers to see wether someone is using Haki or not. At MF everyone was using "invisible Haki" because Oda didn't know how to show it yet. Now instead of everyone yelling "he's using Haki" we get a black color.

 

[KingHashirama]

Oda does the anime?

 

[sameer007]

according to one piece game cover shanks has red haki isn't it?maybe luffy is going to have red haki too in future...and it is represented in anime with red + black color.