[Discussion] Analyzed Review of chapter 651

[-ahhimane-]

Most of the people didn't like the current chapter 651. Saying asspull about the Nunoboko sword, Kakashi and Obito connected, K11 getting BM cloaks etc.

If you're not the one included in the above having doubts then you still can enjoy reading the analysis and the others who're having doubts can continue reading to find the solution.


The current chapter 651 showed us how Naruto created an opening for Sasuke to attack Obito with the Susano'o sword with the help of Konoha 11 as well as diverting the Black fluid away from Obito.

First about the K11 joining the fray.
Here, read the analysis, 651 : BM cloak question? :

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Why Naruto took the help of his friends instead of creating clones of his own to form the Rasengan even bigger?
Because he wanted to show Obito that believing in the friends we have and by being accepted by them can really fill the emptiness in your heart. He tried to prove that he still believes in his friends and they also believe in him.

Secondly about the introduction of the sword
Obito himself said that the users's (in short, sage's) feelings dwell within the sword, the stronger the feelings, the stronger the sword. Currently the sage is Obito and hence his feelings will reside in the sword.

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I agree that it was a sudden asspull of the sword out of nowhere, but why Obito used it in the chapter was reasonable, he wanted to make sure whether his determination towars his plan is stronger than Naruto's or not. It was a clash between the feelings of Obito and Naruto. And thus the sword broke because Obito's resolve was weak and he also noticed it that it could have been also possible the other way if he had decided to return back to Konoha.

Third about Kakashi seeing through Obito's Sharingan, listening and watching.
Well that happened with Obito as well when he rushed to save Kakashi and Rin. Take a look

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When Rin died, Obito noticed it from Kakashi's point of view. That explains why Obito knew what Rin said to Kakashi when they were chased by Mist Shinobis.

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And now, Kakashi is viewing from Obito's point of view.


Sorry for the long azz analysis but it was needed to clear the doubts.
I hope you get the clear picture of 651 now

 

[BlackGamabunta]

Kudos......Good points raised....=D

 

[HyuugaHeir]

Great!
I hope those who are doubtful and those who hate the chapter can come into senses
i like your point of how Obito's feelings intercepted naruto's. that's why the sword broke, since his is weaker than naruto's

 

[-ahhimane-]

Kudos......Good points raised....=D

Great!
I hope those who are doubtful and those who hate the chapter can come into senses
i like your point of how Obito's feelings intercepted naruto's. that's why the sword broke, since his is weaker than naruto's

Thanks =D =D

 

[herecomesevil]

I had never thought in this way . Thank you bro.

 

[CudaJoe]

I think you forgot one point. Obito's resolve is headstrong, the visions he had I believe were the work of Kakashi. Kakashi analyzed Obito and recognized that there was still that will of fire hiding deep inside of Obito and I believe Kakashi envisioned what it could have been like had Obito made the right choice in life after Rin died. kakashi either accomplished it via the shared vision and his own imagination or a Genjutsu, or actually an even better thought. Ino somehow transfered Kakashi's thoughts to Obito at the right moment like how she did with Naruto and Hashirama's thoughts. I dont think Ino is powerful enough to reach Kakashi in Obito-land so the other part of that theory is that kakashi sent himself back to the Shinobi world and they havent shown that image yet?

 

[-ahhimane-]

I think you forgot one point. Obito's resolve is headstrong, the visions he had I believe were the work of Kakashi. Kakashi analyzed Obito and recognized that there was still that will of fire hiding deep inside of Obito and I believe Kakashi envisioned what it could have been like had Obito made the right choice in life after Rin died. kakashi either accomplished it via the shared vision and his own imagination or a Genjutsu, or actually an even better thought. Ino somehow transfered Kakashi's thoughts to Obito at the right moment like how she did with Naruto and Hashirama's thoughts. I dont think Ino is powerful enough to reach Kakashi in Obito-land so the other part of that theory is that kakashi sent himself back to the Shinobi world and they havent shown that image yet?

You maybe right. But the way you put doesn't fit right. Means, Kakashi didn't try to manipulate Obito's mind by showing those visions by creating or in a Genjutsu.

Instead you could say that, Kakashi felt that way, but those feelings reached Obito through the connection that established in the chapter. In a way, Kakashi expressed Obito's future if Obito had returned to the village that time.

Or the other way. Here Obito questioned that "why is he seeing these images now?"
Means he might have thought that way in the past when his resolve towards IT was concreting in his mind. And hence during the clash those feelings surfaced back.

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[BISHOPALONE]

No need to explain, haters will always hate

 

[-ahhimane-]

No need to explain, haters will always hate

Yeah I know =D But to those who have brains to think can understand