[Theory] An interesting finding about the senju ancestor.

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So I was reading an old chapter and saw this:

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I'm preety sure that this is a page that many of you guys have come across at one point or another. However, there is something in this page, that, at least from what I have read, no one has pointed out before. It has been mentioned that senju and uchiha were the ones that started the clans as the sons of the second person ever who had chakra. The interesting part though is that in this page we see the younger son, the 4th person ever who had chakra, wearing a headband! This means that headbands is something that started from way back then. However, his headband hasn't any symbol at all so what exactly does he try to prove by that? I mean headbands' supposedly use is to show one's country but why he, even though he wears a headband, doesn't try to show anything? By doing that, isn't he cancelling its whole use? OR is it possible that by doing that, he tries to show that everyone belongs to his clan (metaphorically as a peace sign)?

The other interesting thing is that the older son doesn't wear anything at all so it might be a sign of not accepting his brother's ways.


In any way, now the strange part, even though the senju ancestor wears a headband, exactly similar to the ones that the recent shinobi wear, none of his descendants wear a headband similar to his own! Ofc, some of them, such as Hashirama and Tobirama do wear some different versions of it, while other senju have their emblem in a different way.

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Point is that that there are two bizzare things:
1) senju descendants wear a version of a headband of their own clan while the younger son, the ancestor himself hasn't even chosen an emblem but yet he does wear a headband as well similar to the modern version.

2) It's more about the evolution of the headbands throughout the centuries. Naturally, you would expect that since the senju had a headband similar to the modern shinobi, so they would his descendants. Yet, here is as if history moves back and fourth: why the headbands, something that first appeared in senju's ancestor days, was later used by his descendants (in a less evolutioned version of it) only to resurface once again the modern era in the exact same shape form as when it first appeared?

Anyway, I thought it was strange, let me guys know what you think :)
 
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I thought it was strange as well.
 

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Yep, also check that phrasing out. "The Rikudo sage preached the way of the ninja and tried to bring peace to the world but when it was still but a dream, his time came". This could have a double meaning that trying to bring peace was a dream, but could also be that the World is the dream.
 

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it may have clans already before they were born or during their time

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from that chart at the right, it seems clans existed long long ago
 

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it may have clans already before they were born or during their time

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from that chart at the right, it seems clans existed long long ago

No, this chart only shows the senju and uchiha fighting throughout the centuries and even if we accept that there were clans, I'm talking specifically about the ones that could use chakra.
 

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Yep, also check that phrasing out. "The Rikudo sage preached the way of the ninja and tried to bring peace to the world but when it was still but a dream, his time came". This could have a double meaning that trying to bring peace was a dream, but could also be that the World is the dream.

I don't really know about that, unless I read somewhere ***********'s or viz translation, I can't really think without having the whole image, it's a very tiny detail to be explained by a bad translation.
 

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No, this chart only shows the senju and uchiha fighting throughout tthe centuries and even if we accept that there were clans, I'm talking specifically abou the ones that could use chakra.

no, it shows a chart of clans fighting one another from the start till now, not just s/u
 

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no, it shows a chart of clans fighting one another from the start till now, not just s/u

Can you really prove that? I mean yeah it does show s/u fighting in the middle of the chart but that could be a reason of aethetics because it would be anticlimatic to to put them that down as key figures. In any case, as I said, I only talk about the clans that could use chakra and so, there wasn't a clan before those 2 who could have chakra.
 
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So I was reading an old chapter and saw this:

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I'm preety sure that this is a page that many of you guys have come across at one point or another. However, there is something in this page, that, at least from what I have read, no one has pointed out before. It has been mentioned that senju and uchiha were the ones that started the clans as the sons of the second person ever who had chakra. The interesting part though is that in this page we see the younger son, the 4th person ever who had chakra, wearing a headband! This means that headbands is something that started from way back then. However, his headband hasn't any symbol at all so what exactly does he try to prove by that? I mean headbands' supposedly use is to show one's country but why he, even though he wears a headband, doesn't try to show anything? By doing that, isn't he cancelling its whole use? OR is it possible that by doing that, he tries to show that everyone belongs to his clan (metaphorically as a peace sign)?

The other interesting thing is that the older son doesn't wear anything at all so it might be a sign of not accepting his brother's ways.


In any way, now the strange part, even though the senju ancestor wears a headband, exactly similar to the ones that the recent shinobi wear, none of his descendants wear a headband similar to his own! Ofc, some of them, such as Hashirama and Tobirama do wear some different versions of it, while other senju have their emblem in a different way.

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Point is that that there are two bizzare things:
1) senju descendants wear a version of a headband of their own clan while the younger son, the ancestor himself hasn't even chosen an emblem but yet he does wear a headband as well similar to the modern version.

2) It's more about the evolution of the headbands throughout the centuries. Naturally, you would expect that since the senju had a headband similar to the modern shinobi, so they would his descendants. Yet, here is as if history moves back and fourth: why the headbands, something that first appeared in senju's ancestor days, was later used by his descendants (in a less evolutioned version of it) only to resurface once again the modern era in the exact same shape form as when it first appeared?

Anyway, I thought it was strange, let me guys know what you think :)



It seems someone from the Uchiha Clan decided how would things be on the future... and this is really confusing.
 
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Interesting, i also think that this is symbolized in sasuke and naruto's first chapter fight in which sasuke did not accept narutos ways and removed his headband.


really interesting find.

nice.
 

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Yeah, nice find.
But theyre called forehead protectors, people in real life have been wearing them for ages.
Could just be kishi thought it looked cool.
 

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It seems someone from the Uchiha Clan decided how would things be on the future... and this is really confusing.
I thought of it as well but I decided not to brig this up because it was quite ambiguous.
Interesting, i also think that this is symbolized in sasuke and naruto's first chapter fight in which sasuke did not accept narutos ways and removed his headband.


really interesting find.

nice.
Thank you and yes it's possible.
Yeah, nice find.
But theyre called forehead protectors, people in real life have been wearing them for ages.
Could just be kishi thought it looked cool.
The point is not that they use them in real life but actually how there is that time gap, I mean we see the senju ancestor using it, then his descendants use what it seems like a very older version of it, and it finally resurfaces once again in modern shinobi.
 

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The Sage's effigy is also shown him wearing a headband

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The Sage's effigy is also shown him wearing a headband

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I'm not really sure about that. At least from my perspective nothing really is clear there.
 
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