An Analysis: Nagato vs Madara

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RinneArtist

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An analysis for potential victories for Nagato over commonly top tier ranked shinobi. Keep in mind, this is not the Edo version of Nagato. Both Shinobi in these fights have the knowledge of every fight they have ever had. If they have never said anything about the opponent, it is implied that they do not know anything about their opponent. Also, both characters are considered to be in their "primes."
Nagato:
Strengths- Lifelong battle and lifelong combat knowledge of Rinnegan give him the advantage and unparalleled jutsu compared to most other shinobi. He has linked views to both his summons and Paths of Pain.
Weaknesses: due to his injuries sustained in a previous encounter with Hanzou of the Salamander he cannot move quickly.
Known Nagato techs:
Amplification Summoning Technique
Animal Path
Asura Attack
Asura Path
Banshō Ten'in
Blocking Technique Absorption Seal
Chakra Propulsion
Chakra Sensing Technique
Chibaku Tensei
Deva Path
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Five-Seal Barrier
Flaming Arrow Missiles
Flaming Arrow of Amazing Ability
Human Path
Magic Lantern Body Technique
Mental Barricades
Mirrored Sudden Attacker Technique
Naraka Path
Outer Path
Outer Path: Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique
Preta Path
Rain Tiger at Will Technique
Sealing Technique: Phantom Dragons Nine Consuming Seals
Shadow Clone Technique
Shapeshifting Technique
Shinra Tensei
Six Paths Technique
Six Paths of Pain
Soul Removal
Summoning Technique (Demonic Statue of the Outer Path, Konan, Six Paths of Pain)
Summoning: Demonic Statue of the Outer Path
Water Release: Exploding Water Colliding Wave
Water Release: Wild Water Wave
Wind Release: Air Bullets (Anime only)
Wind Release: Gale Palm

Madara Uchiha or Edo Madara: facing off with Madara is no easy case to handle for any shinobi. Madara's large scale Ninjutsu and Susano'o can tank most opponents without fail. Madara is feared throughout the world for his power.

Potential reasons Nagato would win: Whether it be Edo or not, Madara has shown very little use of the Rinnegan though constantly having activated. However Madara likes to stick to large scale Ninjutsu to overwhelm his opponents but this will not work against Nagato due to his Blocking technique Absorbsion seal (or the path that can absorb chakra). If anything it makes Nagato stronger/gives him more chakra. When most times in danger Madara tends to camp inside his Susano'o. It has been stated that Susano'o is a representation of the users Chakra and this can be absorbed too. Even if his Susano'o couldn't be absorbed using the blocking Absorbsion seal, his perfect Susano'o is a mass of heavy, dense chakra making it twice as deadly when Chibaku Tensei pulls his inward and smashes him against it (that is if he doesn
t figure out how to destroy it first). Hand to hand combat would be essentially worthless against Nagato considering if he touches you he absorbs your chakra or can steal your soul (and if your soul is taken the. Edo Tensei is canceled due to the host body no longer containing the resurrected soul). Shinra Tensei and Bansho Ten'in help keep Madara on his toes and keep pulling Madara into close combat with Nagato or pushing him away in case of a trap. Continuous summonings give Nagato a greater vision and help deal with rapid Kagebunshins. Enhanced vision prevents counter or sneak attacks.

Potential reasons Madara would win: Shattered heaven or the meteor technique could cause potential problems if continually spammed, however also leaves Madara vulnerable for a short time (due to dropping it on himself) and it could potentially be Shinra Tensei'd or be shot out of the air. (the reason ehy the armed forced couldnt do that or have the Great Fence Sitter Jinton it would be because the falling peices would still cripple thier army). Madara does have speed on his side and is legendary in combat. Perfect Susano'o may give Edo Madara the time he needs to formulate a plan. Multiple Wood Kagebunshins will give anyone problems. Madaras large scale ninjutsu could destroy Chibaku Tensei if he can analyze the situation quickly enough. If Madara would be to use the Kyuubi it would have to be EMS Madara which could give him the advantage over Nagatos summonings. Sharingan has been noted for countering and detecting attacks of opponents. (For debate on wood techniques refer to Hasharama debate)

My opinion: Nagato wins. Large scale Ninjutsu prove ineffective against Nagato and that's Madaras go to weapons. Camping in Susano'o is not a strategy that works against Nagato due to his Absorbsion and high scale ninjutsu. Madara isn't gonna go down easily though, Nagato wins High Difficulty.

Who do you think would win Narutobase. Before you merely state I'm dumb and wrong please explain why and anything I have missed. Oh, and if this is "too long to read" then go read some trolls thread.
Thanks guys, RinneDom.
 

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Its honestly to long to read right now xD ill read it later

IMO Nagato is still far below Ninjas like Naruto, Madara, and Obito.
 

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Honestly I think it would go

1. Obito (w/Jins)
2/3. Naruto/Madara
2/3. Madara/Naruto

Then Nagato and Hashi

IMO Naruto stomps Nagato
 

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Its honestly to long to read right now xD ill read it later

IMO Nagato is still far below Ninjas like Naruto, Madara, and Obito.
Madara Uchiha
I personally agree with the op, but I don't place Naruto and Obito on Madara/Nagato's level.
I dont place naruto there, but obito is second to edo madara only.
Honestly I think it would go

1. Obito (w/Jins)
2/3. Naruto/Madara
2/3. Madara/Naruto

Then Nagato and Hashi

IMO Naruto stomps Nagato

To everyone who replied I want to know why you think this?
What gives those characters the edge over Nagato?
 

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Until madara shows he can use the rinnegan better then id say nagato wins. The preta path creates a barrier around the user that absorbs all chakra so susanoo or mokuton would be stopped dead in there tracks like jiraiyas rasengan. He could block the meteor with shinra tensei or ct. The rinnegan is really hard to beat preta path makes ninjutsu useless and deva path counters taijutsu except maybe might guys hirudora.
 

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Nope. Preta isnt countering Perfect Susanoo. He needs to get close to be able to absorb it and the Gokage were tossed backwards many feet by a sword slash that wasn't even directed towards them. He also needs to stand there and wait until it is all absorbed. That's just asking for a quick and painful death as he is wide open while doing this. CT is destroyed by PS's mountain busting sword slashes while every other attack Nagato has is blocked by PS.
 
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