Oh you're putting picture quotes? Fun fact: How about the one where George Washington said that "if Islam were ever to reach the mind of the slave, we would never be able to control them again". You know why? I'll leave you to think that. By the way, none of them shoudktb say anything about war when America itself was founded on war and is just like Ancient Rome. War is its culture and that'll be its doom. I good Muslim is a good Christin. The definition of Muslim is one who submits his or her will entirely to do the will of Allah (God). Muslims only believe in one God. And those people you came across are hypocrites. A real Muslim doesn't reject people of other faiths. And indignant get the point of all those Surahs. If someone plotted to mess with Jesus they'd die too. Didn't you know that the Roman Catholic Church spreader its religion by war and bloodshed? And it's pretty funny how they spread all of that but Jesus was murdered by the Roman authorities. Yet the pope, who is Roman, is said to be next to Jesus
Jimmy rustler, I read the main points. That shit is too long for no reason
Edit: aye my man aim64, I knwo judges and they used qurans, so sit in the corner and think about your life
Except George Washington never said that. A quick google search could tell anyone that. Even if the slaves did acquire Islam, they would still be controlled. Why? They're slaves. What religion sounds sane when it calls for its followers to kill people for not believing in their scripture? You clearly didn't read what he said.
And those people you came across are hypocrites. A real Muslim doesn't reject people of other faiths.
But the Qu'ran, the holy text of Islam tells Muslims to do just that.
Surat 9, Ayah 5:
And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
Didn't you know that the Roman Catholic Church spreader its religion by war and bloodshed? And it's pretty funny how they spread all of that but Jesus was murdered by the Roman authorities
I'm pretty sure they knew Jesus was murdered by Romans. Otherwise the part in the story where Judas sold Jesus out would make no sense.
By the way, none of them shoudktb say anything about war when America itself was founded on war and is just like Ancient Rome. War is its culture and that'll be its doom.
America was founded more on money and profit than war. Why did some rich folk get together and decide "Lets fight off the British so we don't have to pay such harsh taxes."? Because it interfered with how much money they were making.
The picture quote was there because I'm dealing with the quality of person who will only see the picture.
Fun fact: How about the one where George Washington said that "if Islam were ever to reach the mind of the slave, we would never be able to control them again". You know why? I'll leave you to think that.
Probably because he never said it. Google is turning up zilch on your quote, there, buddy - and searching for quotes from Washington on Islam turns up little to nothing.
This is why I do you all the courtesy of citing things, or at least making sure my quote is accurate so that it can be retrieved should anyone get a wild hair up their ass and look it up in a search engine.
By the way, none of them shoudktb say anything about war when America itself was founded on war and is just like Ancient Rome.
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
That is what America was founded upon.
Ultimately, all nations must face the reality of war. There is always someone who is going to insist he/she has dominion over you - and any would-be nation must challenge that claim to jurisdiction to establish its own.
. . . I'm not entirely sure what you were trying to say, here.
What the Qu'ran defines as a good muslim is a wretched excuse for a human being. What most people consider a decent human being is what the Qu'ran specifically defines as a hypocrite and companion of hellfire.
The definition of Muslim is one who submits his or her will entirely to do the will of Allah (God).
A man came to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and said, "Instruct me as to such a deed as equals Jihad (in reward)." He replied, "I do not find such a deed." Then he added, "Can you, while the Muslim fighter is in the battle-field, enter your mosque to perform prayers without cease and fast and never break your fast?" The man said, "But who can do that?" Abu- Huraira added, "The Mujahid (i.e. Muslim fighter) is rewarded even for the footsteps of his horse while it wanders bout (for grazing) tied in a long rope."
Allah was willing to broker a deal with the Quarysh, however, and have a few of their gods recognized.
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.... Except it was really Satan and Muhammad couldn't tell the difference. So, you know... he was either just making it up as he went... or unable to tell the difference between what an Angel of God was telling him, and what Satan was telling him.
But let's not puzzle over that one much before cutting off someone's head for suggesting Muhammad was a false prophet.
I mean... everyone still alive in the town says he was a prophet ... guess he was a prophet.
And those people you came across are hypocrites. A real Muslim doesn't reject people of other faiths.
And We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation [united in religion], but [He intended] to test you in what He has given you; so race to [all that is] good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will [then] inform you concerning that over which you used to differ.
49 And judge, [O Muhammad], between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations and beware of them, lest they tempt you away from some of what Allah has revealed to you. And if they turn away - then know that Allah only intends to afflict them with some of their [own] sins. And indeed, many among the people are defiantly disobedient.
3:3
He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel.
4 Before, as guidance for the people. And He revealed the Qur'an. Indeed, those who disbelieve in the verses of Allah will have a severe punishment, and Allah is exalted in Might, the Owner of Retribution.
3:7
It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise - they are the foundation of the Book - and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them]. And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah . But those firm in knowledge say, "We believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord." And no one will be reminded except those of understanding.
3:20
So if they argue with you, say, "I have submitted myself to Allah [in Islam], and [so have] those who follow me." And say to those who were given the Scripture and [to] the unlearned, "Have you submitted yourselves?" And if they submit [in Islam], they are rightly guided; but if they turn away - then upon you is only the [duty of] notification. And Allah is Seeing of [His] servants.
21 Those who disbelieve in the signs of Allah and kill the prophets without right and kill those who order justice from among the people - give them tidings of a painful punishment.
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Remember my reference, earlier, to Surat At Tawbah? The part about 'punish them by your hands?'
Keep in mind, this is a revelation from God. It isn't an account of what God told one person to do, constrained by historical context. The Qu'ran wasn't 'created' - it has 'always existed' and was simply revealed to Muhammad. This being the case - Surat At Tawbah is intrinsically connected to all other Surats and none of the Qu'ran is constrained to a historical context. What was commanded of Muhammad is what is commanded of today's Muslims. Nothing has changed because the Qu'ran was, within Islamic theology, intended to be universally applicable.
3:28
Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah , except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the [final] destination.
5:51
O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.
52 So you see those in whose hearts is disease hastening into [association with] them, saying, "We are afraid a misfortune may strike us." But perhaps Allah will bring conquest or a decision from Him, and they will become, over what they have been concealing within themselves, regretful.
53 And those who believe will say, "Are these the ones who swore by Allah their strongest oaths that indeed they were with you?" Their deeds have become worthless, and they have become losers.
54 O you who have believed, whoever of you should revert from his religion - Allah will bring forth [in place of them] a people He will love and who will love Him [who are] humble toward the believers, powerful against the disbelievers; they strive in the cause of Allah and do not fear the blame of a critic. That is the favor of Allah ; He bestows it upon whom He wills. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.
55 Your ally is none but Allah and [therefore] His Messenger and those who have believed - those who establish prayer and give zakah, and they bow [in worship].
56 And whoever is an ally of Allah and His Messenger and those who have believed - indeed, the party of Allah - they will be the predominant.
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Again, a command of exclusion and isolation with a condemnation of those who would turn away from Islam. Keep in mind that this places them in the 'punish them by your hands' category. This is precisely why people who leave Islam in the western world will receive death threats from surrounding Muslims.
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This is nothing new, and has been going on for some time:
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Once again... "Everyone left alive around me says he's a prophet... guess he must have been a prophet."
... I'm not quite following, again. Turn off auto-correct or post from something with a real keyboard.
The point of me highlighting all of those Surats was rather simple - those are enduring commands toward war and conquest in the name of religion. This is a conquest that can only be fulfilled by not just global domination, but enduring suppression of other religious beliefs. If it challenges the authority of Islam over the world and humanity, it cannot be tolerated by Islam.
9:29 provides the only real exception to this in the form of a tax - "protection money" - to be paid by those of non-muslim status to be allowed to live under Muslim law without converting to Islam. Of course, you can't own a horse (probably translated to owning a car, today), can't own weapons, etc, etc unless you are a Muslim. Can't have the serfs getting ideas.
If someone plotted to mess with Jesus they'd die too.
Either the Christians weren't as thorough in their enforcement of blasphemy laws, or their wasn't nearly as much agreement upon scientific advancement being blasphemy in the first place. There was something different about the culture that made the Enlightenment and Industrial/Scientific Revolution possible.
Probably had something to do with this:
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Granted, there's a lot of doozies to be said about people of the Christian faith (as well as those of the Narcissist faith in politics)... but you have to admire the fact that this is done in an attempt to rationalize things like banning women from driving or wearing revealing clothing on account of it causing earthquakes (however that works).
Didn't you know that the Roman Catholic Church spreader its religion by war and bloodshed?
Rome spread Rome by the point of the sword and the lure of economics. Since Rome decided to declare itself Christian and develop, essentially, Roman State Christianity - a lot of people ended up going along with it simply by virtue of politics. It had less to do with anything unique to Christianity and more to do with Rome purposing the face of Christianity.
Many argue that Rome is the 'beast' mentioned in Revelations because it pretended to be Christian while it was not.
And it's pretty funny how they spread all of that but Jesus was murdered by the Roman authorities.
He was executed by the Roman authorities, yes. He was, however, turned in by the Jewish Pharisee. Keep in mind that many of the people in Israel desired to be free from Rome and they believed that the Messiah would bring in a perfect Jewish state free of Rome. The Pharisee turning in a popular teacher who was descended from King David to the Roman Authorities would have been scandalous at the time.
Yet the pope, who is Roman, is said to be next to Jesus
There is a reason the Protestant Reformation happened.
Being of a Protestant denomination, myself, I'm not exactly impressed by the Pope. I can respect that someone in the position of the Pope may have a considerable amount of experience and a perspective that could be valuable... but the idea that he would be more divine than other human beings is fairly ridiculous. The Pope is a political selection more so than a divine one. The current one is an antichrist of sorts, so it's all going pretty much as anticipated.
Edit: aye my man aim64, I knwo judges and they used qurans, so sit in the corner and think about your life
In the timeless wisdom of the Internet: Pics or it didn't happen.
You are the one making the claim - reinforce it.
Judges may have a wide range of books in their libraries - and any well educated man or woman -should- take a gander through the various religious books. That does not mean they hold any special place in law. The Tao of Pooh is probably on just as many, if not more judge's shelves in America.
Within American law, the Qu'ran holds no ground or footing, and cannot be used for making legal distinctions. Neither can the Bible, for that matter. The only laws that can be used are those that are passed through the proper legislative channels using the proper processes that do not violate national, state, or local constitutional restrictions upon the government's legal authority.
First, for proper respect, This recent shooting was horrible. My condolences are for the families of the victims in that Oregon community college shooting.
But did you guys know that Osama Bin Laden was the product of the CIA? Yes, he was. The Cia, in there attempt to overthrow a government, which is by the way, what America usually does, trained rebels, like they usually do, and he was one of those people. It was the governments fault he came about. Second, the taliban, sadaam hussein, and al-Qaeda etc was the product of the U.S. Government. Did you know, that when America wanted to fight Iran, it gave sadaam Hussein weapons to fight Iran for them since sadaam Hussein was calling a "holy war" on Iran anyway. Because of Americas hate for Iran, it trained Iraqi soldiers and gave them weapons. Unfortunately for America, that war went nowhere and resulted in a lot of death, so, it couldn't get rid of Iran like it wanted too. The taliban was also trained by the U.S government. And by the way, the only reason America attacked sadaam Hussein, hung him on live tv, and blew Iraq to the stone ages was because he was threatening and did attempt to take over Kuwait, where huge oil reserves are in which America owns. Fun fact: those oil reserves were owned by the former president Bushs family. And a lot of these terrorists today do not have justified actions but who's really to blame? America bombed Iraq to the stone ages but left the people there. When you leave people alive after destroying their homes and country, do you think they'll forget and go away? No, they will not go away, in fact, they'll want revenge. So it's like an undying determination to make America pay. The U.S government has sent soldiers to die on selfish wars on oil, and has created more enemies. Has anyone ever heard the phrase one countries terrorist is another countries freedom fighter? While we're hating the terrorists without knowing why they do why they do, they are cheering more on. America, you ****ed up. You put our country at risk and in harms way because of your selfish acts.
