America is looking at removing the 2nd amednment.

[Unbiased]

Like its been mentioned on numerous levels before; banning guns will never solve the problem. People find ways to improvise and even more will obtain illegal means to get what they need. Taking away our second amendment is only going to further hurt this country in the future. No protection for civilians means complete reliance on our unstable military. I don't condone the actions of the government, but I can guarantee that taking away something on this level will eventually lead in a riot against the government and potentially splitting our military in half. Those who fight and serve the government as dogs; and those who join the service to protect the 'people'.

If it comes down to this, all because of the actions of the Connecticut school shooting last week (plus other possible outcomes), you can bet that enemies of this country will seize their opportunity to attack. A powerful country becomes even more unstable? Civilians with no means of protection? Who wouldn't jump on that?

The reason why America hasn't had invasion isn't because of a strong military but because there's 330 million of them with a firearm that will fight when their lives are on the line.

 

[buddy2soul]

Democrats are not thinking clearly (then again when do they).

 

[kekerot]

That is because the citizens themselves don't have guns and the country is for the majority broke.Japan has the best policy on guns.l
I am all for them taking guns.Guns can and will only inflict harm and suffering.Nothing else is useful for guns beyond that point.
A shield is what defines protection.Not guns.

attack is the best defense....you have to kill the madafakar that broke into ur appartment u cant just shield ur self from him

 

[Typhon]

The reason why America hasn't had invasion isn't because of a strong military but because there's 330 million of them with a firearm that will fight when their lives are on the line.

Eh, I don't think that's very true these days. The reason why America hasn't been invaded is because we're an ocean away from anyone who would have the capacity to do so and have a Navy that controls the world's oceans. Not to mention that little stockpile of nuclear weapons.

I'd think someone would be more intimidated by the threat of nuclear annihilation than grannies with a handgun.

 

[DeathandHealing]

1. The 2nd Amendment was made to stop the government from having too much power.
The USA was founded by People breaking away from the British. Every government becomes corrupted
given the right set of circumstances and it's up to the people to one day fight for those rights.

2. They can't remove the 2nd Amendment or do anything of the sort to completely remove guns.
And it's STUPID to ever compare polices otherwise. japan has NEVER had anything close tot he 2nd amendment.
Look at the suicide rate in japan compared tot he rest of the world. Look at the number of brutal crimes and so forth.
Japan isn't even half the size the USA is in mass.

3. There will always be "crazy" people. Guns are not the problem. Society needs to change. And I'm going to be rather Blunt.
White american needs to stop assuming that Violence is only a city thing that involves blacks and Hispanics. Look at city schools
that contain larger Minority amounts. They have metal detectors, fences and police giving pat downs. The schools are built like a prison. There was no reason why any adult can simply sign into a school and walk on campus.

I have been saying this for years. Is it safe to say we have a profile now? Blacks are profiled for being theirs and so on. Look at how many mass shootings at schools involve white middle class " all american town" boys. There you go a profile. I'm sorry but there is a HUGE difference between gangs fighting and school shootings like this.

4. Last part is what is actually being done? Allot of these shooters are always reported to be "smart" and so forth. This bright kids need to be segregated into better schools with more resources so that society can benefit from these kids. As of now they are forced into a cruel setting where they are punished while jocks are being rewarded. Honestly why would these smart kids care about anything anymore after all the BS they have to deal with.

 

[spideysenses]

Actually the 2nd was to allow Americans to own guns so they can fight off the Brits in colonial times. The 2nd amendment will not be remove so get your fact straight. They are making gun laws more strict. For example, household with mental illness people might not be able to own guns. Also people will get their background check for felony before they can legally own a gun. Amendments usually don't get remove...

 

[MymotaSofuka]

Ummm that's false accusations youre throwing around at democrats... They call for tighter gun control laws you dumbass. Get your facts straight before you start a pointless thread.

 

[Madarauchiwa]

they wont do it. obama wont go against guns like that the NRA woldnt allow it and last time a president (clinton) went against the NRA he lost congress to the republicans. at most obama will try to make stricter gun laws but as for removing the 2nd amendment thats impossible.

 

[The Alchemist]

Okay you're obviously a tea partier or conspiracy enthusiast so let me be blunt; So the **** what?! People will still die it will just be harder for them to do it in such a cowardly way. We all say we want peace on earth and for mankind to evolve yet we aren't willing to do the work for it. This is the same way it was for the samurai when it became illegal to possess a sword, it's just the evolution of the times. Frankly I'm tired of the mass killings from gun violence. I grew up in "the hood" and know first hand what gun violence does to a social structure and a community. Now that it's white guys killing each other it's a big issue in the media but whatever it takes to get this cowards weapon off the streets is fine by me.

 

[Vexorian]

thats such a weak argument they would only be taking it away cause it was extreamely outdated and was a danger to others in this society.

That's the problem, it isn't a weak argument man. They've already taken stabs at reducing the bill of rights, and have not succeeded. It's the snowball effect--Once they succeed they'll continue to. Do you deny the fact that I can just as easily kill somebody with a knife as I can with a gun? I guarantee I could walk into a grade school and kill several little children with a knife just as easily as I could with a gun.

 

[Unbiased]

attack is the best defense....you have to kill the madafakar that broke into ur appartment u cant just shield ur self from him

Exactly. If you know someone is gonna do something or at the very least have a shotgun on you, one shot and he literally will be split in half.

That's the problem, it isn't a weak argument man. They've already taken stabs at reducing the bill of rights, and have not succeeded. It's the snowball effect--Once they succeed they'll continue to. Do you deny the fact that I can just as easily kill somebody with a knife as I can with a gun? I guarantee I could walk into a grade school and kill several little children with a knife just as easily as I could with a gun.

You could probably kill a bunch of children with a knife but if an adult is present it's gonna be a lot more difficult to say the least. Especially if I was the teacher, I'm gonna grab my chair and overwhelm you xd

 

[sleepinsleuth]

No no, we'll all learn roundhouse kicks. A roundhouse kick is all you need. Hah.

 

[YowYan]

You can't have a police state with a armed population..

 

[TrollingSage]

Am surprised there're so many looneys in the world. Sure making guns illegals isnt going to solve the problem immediately but its sure as hell is a start. For those of you who don't know what goes on around other parts of the world, gun crimes in the U.S is significantly higher than in other countries with gun control laws like the UK and Canada. You don't need an assault rifle to protect your house from burglars.

 

[Aim64C]

You will definitely have a different look at this, if someone kills your child, your friend, your sibling or someone related to you with the guns you love so much. 30.000 people die in America every year from gun shots, it is only a matter of time until it hits you in one way or another. It makes me angry, how simple minded some of you think about this - "This could have been prevented if the adults in the school had weapons"...

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Over the past five years, firearm homicide has steadily declined in the U.S.

Firearm homicide in 2010 numbered 8,775 individuals. All other firearm related deaths for that time were suicide or deemed accidental.

As for the point - this would have been prevented if there were trained and competent individuals in the school with a weapon capable of addressing the threat presented.

In the FBI statistics, you will notice: "Law enforcement reported 665 justifiable homicides in 2010. Of those, law enforcement officers justifiably killed 387 felons, and private citizens justifiably killed 278 people during the commission of a crime. (See Expanded Homicide Data Table 14 and 15.)"

Which means that, for the year of 2010, there were fewer than a hundred more homicides by rifles - including the dreaded "assault rifles plaguing our society" than there were cases of citizens killing someone in commission of a felony with their own firearms.

I, honestly, don't blame the firearms. I carried two firearms every day for 14 hours a day for weeks on end. Never shot anyone. Never leveled that weapon on anyone. Never chambered a round. Not a one of the 50 people I worked directly with did.

Millions of firearm owners use their firearms responsibly (or at least without hurting anyone) each day.

Stop this nonsensical belief that society is somehow at fault for the criminal actions of individuals.

 

[Aim64C]

Am surprised there're so many looneys in the world. Sure making guns illegals isnt going to solve the problem immediately but its sure as hell is a start.

I'm impressed. I don't often encounter such enlightened individuals.

I would love to hear you speak more about how criminals follow laws.

For those of you who don't know what goes on around other parts of the world, gun crimes in the U.S is significantly higher than in other countries with gun control laws like the UK and Canada.

Violent crime, in general, is statistically higher in the U.S.

That said, the UK and Canada have a much higher incidence of stabbing and assault with other weapons. Your population is not that much different - it's just that we allow ours to have devices that make decisions made in anger more often fatal.

You don't need an assault rifle to protect your house from burglars.

*sigh*

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For the year 2010: Total homicides by rifle in the U.S.; 358, Shotgun; 373
... and Handguns; 6,009

So, perhaps you would like to explain to me why it is that my desire to purchase a 6.8mm ACR is a problem or affair the government needs to get involved in (beyond me registering the weapon as existing in my custody).

Do I need an assault weapon? Well, to be honest, I've survived this long without one.

However; Do you need to prevent me from having one? Statistically, rifles aren't part of the problem. Most cases of homicide occur during arguments. Someone gets the bright idea to use the handgun they bought to settle the score - and that's the cause of most firearm homicides in the U.S. That - and a lot of gang violence is carried out with handguns. Not assault rifles.

So if I'm not part of 'the problem' - what grounds do you have to tell me I can't have that weapon?

 

[Shinobi Train]

Just thought I'd add this little piece of info. ^_^ I went in a store today to buy a firearm. Said store was mobbed with people purchasing weapons simply because of this talk about the amendment (that's not why I was there though, just so you know). So yeah...thanks dumbecrats, you've increased gun sales ten fold, maybe even a hundred fold.

 

[Aim64C]

Just thought I'd add this little piece of info. ^_^ I went in a store today to buy a firearm. Said store was mobbed with people purchasing weapons simply because of this talk about the amendment (that's not why I was there though, just so you know). So yeah...thanks dumbecrats, you've increased gun sales ten fold, maybe even a hundred fold.

This is a fairly typical reaction when these types of incidents and talks start to happen. Anyone who was flirting with the idea of purchasing a firearm will rush out and get one before the opportunity is later denied to them.

Any legislation they could come up with to 'fix' the problems they perceive will likely not get anywhere close to being in a passable form for another 9 months, and it will probably not have an immediately effective date. So, I'm not too terribly concerned about firearm legislation preventing me from purchasing my weapon of choice upon my return home.

Though I can only see such issues serving to further rile up the states that already have whispers of secession spreading amongst the population.

I've never known a generation to live in boring times... but we do certainly seem to have this generation's entertainment schedule lined up.

 

[TrollingSage]

I'm impressed. I don't often encounter such enlightened individuals.

I would love to hear you speak more about how criminals follow laws.



Violent crime, in general, is statistically higher in the U.S.

That said, the UK and Canada have a much higher incidence of stabbing and assault with other weapons. Your population is not that much different - it's just that we allow ours to have devices that make decisions made in anger more often fatal.



*sigh*

You must be registered for see links

For the year 2010: Total homicides by rifle in the U.S.; 358, Shotgun; 373
... and Handguns; 6,009

So, perhaps you would like to explain to me why it is that my desire to purchase a 6.8mm ACR is a problem or affair the government needs to get involved in (beyond me registering the weapon as existing in my custody).

Do I need an assault weapon? Well, to be honest, I've survived this long without one.

However; Do you need to prevent me from having one? Statistically, rifles aren't part of the problem. Most cases of homicide occur during arguments. Someone gets the bright idea to use the handgun they bought to settle the score - and that's the cause of most firearm homicides in the U.S. That - and a lot of gang violence is carried out with handguns. Not assault rifles.

So if I'm not part of 'the problem' - what grounds do you have to tell me I can't have that weapon?

Criminals don't follow laws. Thats true. However your local lunatic can simply waltz into walmarts, purchase an assault rifle and start shooting. Not all gun crimes are commited by criminals. For instance you know that singer Marvin Gaye? He was killed by his father during an argument. Don't you think such a death would have been prevented if he simply didnt have a gun?

 

[Lana Del Taka]

Don't we need guns to hunt animals cause if we don't then the population of animal like the deer would grow to big and the food pyramid or whatever would be disrupted. I personally don't believe in killing animals but other people hunting Is the only way for animals to live.