[Debate] America Best President? Is it obama?
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Obama has the potential to be the raddest president ever. He's at a point in his term that's equivalent to the last few months of senior year of high school, Obama needs to cut loose and do the sickest shit ever.
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Not even close.
Thomas Jefferson and George Washington are probably the best, followed by Ronald Regan.
Some of the worst presidents we have had were all in the the last 100 years.
Obama, both Bush's, Clinton, Carter, Roosevelt, all the way to Wilson have destroyed what America was.
If people just had a clue of what is going right now...
Thomas Jefferson and George Washington are probably the best, followed by Ronald Regan.
Some of the worst presidents we have had were all in the the last 100 years.
Obama, both Bush's, Clinton, Carter, Roosevelt, all the way to Wilson have destroyed what America was.
If people just had a clue of what is going right now...
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I would say George Washington. He could have set up a second monarchy, but declined it. He helped guide the country through establishing a decent government (as good as one can be I suppose). He is a pretty iconic figure of humility and wisdom (even if he was a mediocre general).
Abraham Lincoln made a lot of decisions that may have been avoided without 600,000+ people dying and creating a national divide that still persists today. He made a lot of executive decisions that cost lives during the war as well. He might have eased that through properly managing Reconstruction, but died (conspiracy or not) so we'll never know. He did inherit a mess, there was a series of doughface weak presidents before him that were not taking stances on any pressing social issues at that time. Even if war was inevitable he could have ended it more quickly with better judgment during the beginning half of the war (Union was consistently being stomped).
Kennedy is a hyped president, most likely because he was assassinated. He was much like the current president: young, inexperienced, and idealistic. He didn't have the experience or backbone to stand up against many of the decisions his cabinet was enacting resulting in global problems such as Bay of Pigs, Cuban Missile Crisis, Diem brother assassinations, and the Vietnam War. I actually liked many of his ideals. The more I read about him the more I saw that he didn't support most of what the US government was involving itself in, but he didn't have experience to stop it; that makes him a weaker president.
Abraham Lincoln made a lot of decisions that may have been avoided without 600,000+ people dying and creating a national divide that still persists today. He made a lot of executive decisions that cost lives during the war as well. He might have eased that through properly managing Reconstruction, but died (conspiracy or not) so we'll never know. He did inherit a mess, there was a series of doughface weak presidents before him that were not taking stances on any pressing social issues at that time. Even if war was inevitable he could have ended it more quickly with better judgment during the beginning half of the war (Union was consistently being stomped).
Kennedy is a hyped president, most likely because he was assassinated. He was much like the current president: young, inexperienced, and idealistic. He didn't have the experience or backbone to stand up against many of the decisions his cabinet was enacting resulting in global problems such as Bay of Pigs, Cuban Missile Crisis, Diem brother assassinations, and the Vietnam War. I actually liked many of his ideals. The more I read about him the more I saw that he didn't support most of what the US government was involving itself in, but he didn't have experience to stop it; that makes him a weaker president.
From a neutral perspective abraham lincoln was the best president. He freed all slaves from s;ave owners and stopped the white man from treating us as cattle or mere properties. Without him many blacks would still be picking cotton in the usa.
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But do you know if he had gotten his way you'd all be out of the country? Lincoln wanted to get rid of Blacks in America and the only way he could do that was by removing the title of property from them. If he freed them the plantation owners couldn't claim the government was stealing their property.
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There is proof though, there's quite a bit of proof. It's not that hard to find when you start looking.
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Yeah, Lincoln began moving black peoples to Liberia at the start of Reconstruction, but after he was assassinated it was stopped. Also slavery was on it's way out by that 1860s because of technology advancements in agriculture. Most historians agree that by time the tractor was created (around 20 years later) it would have been financially disadvantageous to own slaves. The abolitionist movements were also growing extremely powerful in the 1860s. On top of that the poor way Reconstruction was handled ultimately hurt black people, leading to the creation of horrible crap like the KKK and Jim Crow laws.
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If you think it's because he hasn't had the opportunity to do anything revolutionary for our country then yes it is, if you think it's about race, then **** off.