Amenotejikara Analysis: Strengths and Weaknesses

[Booker]

Good analysis but I don't think it's underrated here lol.

 

[Sagebee]

There are many misinterpretations regarding the capability and inner workings of Amenotejikara. This could mostly be because of the failure to grasp the concepts of said jutsu or a failure to understand or acknowledge its power. Simply put, believing anything that it is less than haxed leaves me dumbfounded when a good portion of the base is filled with Minato wankers,kamui gg comments etc. So because of this I'm here to provide some much needed insight on this ability.

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Strengths.

Combination attacks.

One of Amenotejikara best qualities is that is can be combined with other jutsus giving it a wide variety of tatics that can be used with it.

example 1- Naruto and Sasuke throwing their respective jutsus into their opponent after Sasuke uses ameno to teleport Madara between them.

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example 2- Sasuke uses amenotejikara with his susanoo increasing the range and deadliness of the jutsu.

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Teleportation.

It's most obvious strength is its teleportation swap skill. When using amenotejikara there a few different ways Sasuke can use amenotejikara to make the most of its strength.

The first way is to simply teleport ones self near the opponent.

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The second way is to simply teleport the opponent into the attack.

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The third way is to teleport an object or his sword into an opponent that begins to rush towards him.

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Of course this ability can be used with the up most creativity and not what is just shown. Afterall the limits of what can be teleported are not actually established or limited when it comes to Amenotejikara. Susanoo being teleported just shows the ability is more than powerful enough to move infrastructures or even other giant chakra objects of similar size.

Dimension Travel. So only Sasuke and Otsutsuki's have the means of traveling these extraterritorial dimensions?

HAXXED.

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Weakness

Amenotejikara has one great weakness. That is the limit in which the jutsu can be used in quick succession. Against Madara was shown to be able to use the ability 3x before having to recharge it. The time limit regarding how long it takes before the user is able to use it again is unknown to my knowledge. If I had to give it a rough estimate I would say a minute or two.


Another weakness of amenotejikara is that it can briefly be sensed by rikudou sage mode users due to their heightened senses. However a combination attack seems to work around their sensing abilities.

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Conclusion.

Amenotejikara is mostly underrated. It's deadlier than ftg and one eyed kamui simply because it has the ability to teleport anyone or anything within your radius automatically giving you an opening to either quickly finish off the enemy. It also provides tactical options like a quick retreat,dimensional travel, lunging someone into your sword etc etc. It's easily one of the strongest abilities you can have in battle.

What's your reasoning why you say ameno is deadlier than kamui

 

[Mensa]

What's your reasoning why you say ameno is deadlier than kamui

It isn't lol Kamui was shown to teleport naruto's clone so fast that a master of the Sharingan Obito thought the clone simply dispersed. As far as ameno goes it really wouldn't bother naruto too much, considering Naruto dodged Madara's sage art lightning jutsu at point blank range - which I may add according to the official databook travels at the speed of light.

 

[Dantee]

What's your reasoning why you say ameno is deadlier than kamui

I say its deadlier than one eyed kamui because Amenotejikara can teleport the opponent and puts them in a dangerous position by simply being in eye sight of the user.

Lmao what? Using CT with Naruto as a core is useless as he'd just pull out his avatar which would effortlessly overpower rocks.
He can't use genjutsu on Kurama because for that he'd need to peer into Naruto's subconscious - which he can't do so anymore because naruto is a perfect jinjuriki. And lastly, as I already said to Dantee, there is no feat of Sasuke teleporting/switching large bodies of chakra like naruto's avatar so that last point is not possible

Sasuke teleported his susanoo. So the bold is possible.

 

[Mensa]

I say its deadlier than one eyed kamui because Amenotejikara can teleport the opponent and puts them in a dangerous position by simply being in eye sight of the user.



Sasuke teleported his susanoo. So the bold is possible.

Scan?

 

[Dantee]

Actually all he does with this technique is switch locations of x with y or himself with x - he's not strictly teleporting. And on what basis do you base the cooldown time on? There isn't one because the time between each panel in the manga is inconsistent. You can't just compare it to other basic rinnegan paths because this one is unique. And another thing, Sasuke hasn't been shown to teleport/switch large bodies of chakra - so him using ameno on his Susano or naruto's avatar is off the table.

The only basis I have is when he was capable of using the tech vs when he wasn't. Essientially during Kaguyas battle. Sasukes eye power took time to return after leaving the desert dimension. It seemed like the battle was stalled any longer from a minute or two from when he was last capable of using it. The interval however is relatively short as he was still able to use it multiple times throughout the fight.

 

[Ansatsuken]

It isn't lol Kamui was shown to teleport naruto's clone so fast that a master of the Sharingan Obito thought the clone simply dispersed. As far as ameno goes it really wouldn't bother naruto too much, considering Naruto dodged Madara's sage art lightning jutsu at point blank range - which I may add according to the official databook travels at the speed of light.

We have discuss about this matter alot here. Naruto reacted to Madara's head movement(he swung his head left to right) and not the jutsu it self.

Madara's head movement is not as fast as light. Madara never shot Senpou: Ranton Kouga directly at Naruto but he executed a movement of cutting/slicing.

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Kishi just drawing the ending of Madara's head movement there.

 

[Sagebee]

I say its deadlier than one eyed kamui because Amenotejikara can teleport the opponent and puts them in a dangerous position by simply being in eye sight of the user.



Sasuke teleported his susanoo. So the bold is possible.

But ameno has more limits and if you can trap someone in kamui vision I think it's near impossible to escape it if sasuke had kamui in his momoshiki fight he could of tore him to spreads

 

[Amenotejikara]

There are many misinterpretations regarding the capability and inner workings of Amenotejikara. This could mostly be because of the failure to grasp the concepts of said jutsu or a failure to understand or acknowledge its power. Simply put, believing anything that it is less than haxed leaves me dumbfounded when a good portion of the base is filled with Minato wankers,kamui gg comments etc. So because of this I'm here to provide some much needed insight on this ability.

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Strengths.

Combination attacks.

One of Amenotejikara best qualities is that is can be combined with other jutsus giving it a wide variety of tatics that can be used with it.

example 1- Naruto and Sasuke throwing their respective jutsus into their opponent after Sasuke uses ameno to teleport Madara between them.

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example 2- Sasuke uses amenotejikara with his susanoo increasing the range and deadliness of the jutsu.

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Teleportation.

It's most obvious strength is its teleportation swap skill. When using amenotejikara there a few different ways Sasuke can use amenotejikara to make the most of its strength.

The first way is to simply teleport ones self near the opponent.

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The second way is to simply teleport the opponent into the attack.

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The third way is to teleport an object or his sword into an opponent that begins to rush towards him.

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Of course this ability can be used with the up most creativity and not what is just shown. Afterall the limits of what can be teleported are not actually established or limited when it comes to Amenotejikara. Susanoo being teleported just shows the ability is more than powerful enough to move infrastructures or even other giant chakra objects of similar size.

Dimension Travel. So only Sasuke and Otsutsuki's have the means of traveling these extraterritorial dimensions?

HAXXED.

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Weakness

Amenotejikara has one great weakness. That is the limit in which the jutsu can be used in quick succession. Against Madara was shown to be able to use the ability 3x before having to recharge it. The time limit regarding how long it takes before the user is able to use it again is unknown to my knowledge. If I had to give it a rough estimate I would say a minute or two.


Another weakness of amenotejikara is that it can briefly be sensed by rikudou sage mode users due to their heightened senses. However a combination attack seems to work around their sensing abilities.

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Conclusion.

Amenotejikara is mostly underrated. It's deadlier than ftg and one eyed kamui simply because it has the ability to teleport anyone or anything within your radius automatically giving you an opening to either quickly finish off the enemy. It also provides tactical options like a quick retreat,dimensional travel, lunging someone into your sword etc etc. It's easily one of the strongest abilities you can have in battle.

excellent thread Praise Ameno!
I've been thinking for while to classify atleast two of those ameno moments. perhaps ameno v1 and ameno v2?


the weakest one will be the one used against RSM naruto and momo. by sasuke swapping himself.

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the most effective one will be ameno v2 used against juubi host madara and kaguya. why?

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because like what he did in those 2 panels. with v2 he thrusted then S/T positioned madara and kaguya into a situation they could not physically evade or block unlike v1. their only option was to use ability that would instantly protect them since their body is too slow. something most character's in this series would not be able to do, not even naruto (chakra ava maybe but considering he still got hit by ameno v1 chidori. I highly doubt he'll react to v2 :lol)

 

[Im Still Robin]

Lmao what? Using CT with Naruto as a core is useless as he'd just pull out his avatar which would effortlessly overpower rocks.
He can't use genjutsu on Kurama because for that he'd need to peer into Naruto's subconscious - which he can't do so anymore because naruto is a perfect jinjuriki. And lastly, as I already said to Dantee, there is no feat of Sasuke teleporting/switching large bodies of chakra like naruto's avatar so that last point is not possible

CT is a seal you ****

And boy Sasuke can even peer into another genjutsu in itself with his rinnegan. Naruto being a perfect jin is shit useless.

The third tail host was also a perfect jin and got one shot by obito genjutsu style

Only thing stopping sasuke from one shotting Naruto is plot that's the only way he's gonna gonna genjutsu the fox

 

[Mensa]

We have discuss about this matter alot here. Naruto reacted to Madara's head movement(he swung his head left to right) and not the jutsu it self.

Madara's head movement is not fast as light. Madara never shot Senpou: Ranton Kouga directly at Naruto but he executed a movement of cutting/slicing.

I've been a guest on this site for quite a while so I have a good idea. Many things are repeatedly discussed here but that doesn't add weight to your argument. You're basically saying naruto just happened to react to madara turning his head left to right? How did he know it would be something thin and not say a fireball, because if it was the latter then with the way he moved he would not have been able to dodge it. Lol that is grossly flawed. He caught a glimpse of it but mainly his senjutsu and fast reflexes allowed him to react

 

[Dantee]

But ameno has more limits and if you can trap someone in kamui vision I think it's near impossible to escape it if sasuke had kamui in his momoshiki fight he could of tore him to spreads

Kamui also has limits that were raised by senju dna enhacements and the sake of plot. I want to give you a break down of how I feel about kamui overall. DMS is haxxed and yeah overall best s/t jutsu in the series. In regards to one eyed kamui, Kakashis kamui is more offensively deadly. Obitos kamui is defensively and offesnively deadly. Overall Obitos kamui is more versatile makes it the all around better jutsu when it comes to offense and defense. Kakashi's kamui is superior in the aspect of offense, but in my opinion Momoshiki probably would have just dodged the distortion of space since momo seemed to also have heightened senses.

Ameno trumps both in an offensive aspect because it can be combined with other jutsus. It can mark the opponent and teleport the user or target at will. Kakashis kamui is also as offensively deadly and relies strictly on eye sight, its main drawback is the chakra it uses. Both ameno and kakashi kamui cant be used in quick succession. Obito kamui is probably the best in overall ability because of the nature of the jutsu. I can't obitos kamui is extremely deadly but offensively ameno is still better.

 

[Mensa]

CT is a seal you ****

And boy Sasuke can even peer into another genjutsu in itself with his rinnegan. Naruto being a perfect jin is shit useless.

The third tail host was also a perfect jin and got one shot by obito genjutsu style

Only thing stopping sasuke from one shotting Naruto is plot that's the only way he's gonna gonna genjutsu the fox

You clearly have anger issues and on top of that you have no idea what you're talking about. Our convo finishes here.

Kamui also has limits that were raised by senju dna enhacements and the sake of plot. I want to give you a break down of how I feel about kamui overall. DMS is haxxed and yeah overall best s/t jutsu in the series. In regards to one eyed kamui, Kakashis kamui is more offensively deadly. Obitos kamui is defensively and offesnively deadly. Overall Obitos kamui is more versatile makes it the all around better jutsu when it comes to offense and defense. Kakashi's kamui is superior in the aspect of offense, but in my opinion Momoshiki probably would have just dodged the distortion of space since momo seemed to also have heightened senses.

Ameno trumps both in an offensive aspect because it can be combined with other jutsus. It can mark the opponent and teleport the user or target at will. Kakashis kamui is also as offensively deadly and relies strictly on eye sight, its main drawback is the chakra it uses. Both ameno and kakashi kamui cant be used in quick succession. Obito kamui is probably the best in overall ability because of the nature of the jutsu. I can't obitos kamui is extremely deadly but offensively ameno is still better.

Still waiting on that scan

 

[SixPathsMike101]

There are many misinterpretations regarding the capability and inner workings of Amenotejikara. This could mostly be because of the failure to grasp the concepts of said jutsu or a failure to understand or acknowledge its power. Simply put, believing anything that it is less than haxed leaves me dumbfounded when a good portion of the base is filled with Minato wankers,kamui gg comments etc. So because of this I'm here to provide some much needed insight on this ability.

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Strengths.

Combination attacks.

One of Amenotejikara best qualities is that is can be combined with other jutsus giving it a wide variety of tatics that can be used with it.

example 1- Naruto and Sasuke throwing their respective jutsus into their opponent after Sasuke uses ameno to teleport Madara between them.

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example 2- Sasuke uses amenotejikara with his susanoo increasing the range and deadliness of the jutsu.

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Teleportation.

It's most obvious strength is its teleportation swap skill. When using amenotejikara there a few different ways Sasuke can use amenotejikara to make the most of its strength.

The first way is to simply teleport ones self near the opponent.

Spoiler

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The second way is to simply teleport the opponent into the attack.

Spoiler

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The third way is to teleport an object or his sword into an opponent that begins to rush towards him.

Spoiler

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Of course this ability can be used with the up most creativity and not what is just shown. Afterall the limits of what can be teleported are not actually established or limited when it comes to Amenotejikara. Susanoo being teleported just shows the ability is more than powerful enough to move infrastructures or even other giant chakra objects of similar size.

Dimension Travel. So only Sasuke and Otsutsuki's have the means of traveling these extraterritorial dimensions?

HAXXED.

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Weakness

Amenotejikara has one great weakness. That is the limit in which the jutsu can be used in quick succession. Against Madara was shown to be able to use the ability 3x before having to recharge it. The time limit regarding how long it takes before the user is able to use it again is unknown to my knowledge. If I had to give it a rough estimate I would say a minute or two.


Another weakness of amenotejikara is that it can briefly be sensed by rikudou sage mode users due to their heightened senses. However a combination attack seems to work around their sensing abilities.

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Conclusion.

Amenotejikara is mostly underrated. It's deadlier than ftg and one eyed kamui simply because it has the ability to teleport anyone or anything within your radius automatically giving you an opening to either quickly finish off the enemy. It also provides tactical options like a quick retreat,dimensional travel, lunging someone into your sword etc etc. It's easily one of the strongest abilities you can have in battle.[/QUOHe an't teleport susano unless he absorbs the tailed beasts. so get that outta there, nd im sure using ameno uses tome in his rinnegan, and that takes months to regain, so it's weakness is that he can nl do it a few times, and not ore than 3 ack t back, it also has a 70 meter range, ftg has a much highr range but nt saying its better

 

[Sagebee]

Kamui also has limits that were raised by senju dna enhacements and the sake of plot. I want to give you a break down of how I feel about kamui overall. DMS is haxxed and yeah overall best s/t jutsu in the series. In regards to one eyed kamui, Kakashis kamui is more offensively deadly. Obitos kamui is defensively and offesnively deadly. Overall Obitos kamui is more versatile makes it the all around better jutsu when it comes to offense and defense. Kakashi's kamui is superior in the aspect of offense, but in my opinion Momoshiki probably would have just dodged the distortion of space since momo seemed to also have heightened senses.

Ameno trumps both in an offensive aspect because it can be combined with other jutsus. It can mark the opponent and teleport the user or target at will. Kakashis kamui is also as offensively deadly and relies strictly on eye sight, its main drawback is the chakra it uses. Both ameno and kakashi kamui cant be used in quick succession. Obito kamui is probably the best in overall ability because of the nature of the jutsu. I can't obitos kamui is extremely deadly but offensively ameno is still better.

With the momoshiki example the most sasuke could do was teleport to him to take out one of his eyes after which he got quickly swatted away. Sasuke with kamui could of just locked on to his hand and ripped it off. To me it looks like kamui is easily a superior technique offensively and defensively

 

[Ansatsuken]

I've been a guest on this site for quite a while so I have a good idea. Many things are repeatedly discussed here but that doesn't add weight to your argument. You're basically saying naruto just happened to react to madara turning his left to right? How did he know it would be something thin and not say a fireball, because if it was the latter then with the way he moved he would not have been able to dodge it. Lol that is grossly flawed. He caught a glimpse of it but mainly his senjutsu and fast reflexes allowed him to react

It bcus he focus on Madara's head. To make a cutting move Madara would lean his head to the left. That's how you gather the sufficient force for cutting movement. You cant cut/slice something by moving the knife forward bcus it only will be a stab movement and not a cutting movement. Same as Madara here. If he just wanted to stab Naruto using Ranton Kouga, why he need to moved his head to the right? Can you with logical mind think a bit?

Naruto saw Madara's head moving to the left, I say not by much. Left a small space and enough for Naruto(with his SP Sensing and reflex) to dodge the attack executed by Madara's head movement.*happen in a very fast sequence/moment*

 

[Dantee]

You clearly have anger issues and on top of that you have no idea what you're talking about. Our convo finishes here.



Still waiting on that scan

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[Dantee]

With the momoshiki example the most sasuke could do was teleport to him to take out one of his eyes after which he got quickly swatted away. Sasuke with kamui could of just locked on to his hand and ripped it off. To me it looks like kamui is easily a superior technique offensively and defensively

That is if it works as quickly as you think. When against RSM Madara one eyed kamui was worthless. They needed to combine its speed to be as effective.

 

[Mensa]

It bcus he focus on Madara's head. To make a cutting move Madara would lean his head to the left. That's how you gather the force for cutting movement. You cant cut/slice something by moving the knife forward bcus it only will be a stab movement and not a cutting movement. Same as Madara here. If he just wanted to stab Naruto using Ranton Kouga, why he need to moved his head to the right? Can you with logical mind think a bit?

Naruto saw Madara's head moving to the left, I say not by much. Left a small space and enough for Naruto(with his SP Sensing and reflex) to dodge the attack executed by Madara's head movement.*happen in a very fast sequence/moment*

And now you're reaching lol

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Reaching. Term used when someone tries to relate one thing to another using completely irrelevant evidence and information.

All you are saying that he focused on Madara's head, madara moved his head from left to right/right to left, he didnt see anything but he still dodged accordingly. You haven't answered my question: how did naruto know that madara wasn't going to use a stream of fire? Because with the way he dodged he wouldn't have been able to escape from it. The fact that madara moved his head from left to right or vice versa doesn't imply that madara will be slicing anything, because the same can be done with head movement the fire stream he used against the kages as well as for a shit load of other jutsus. Naruto did see it, his senjutsu alerted him of an attack before it came out of Madara's mouth and his reflexes allowed him to dodge it. It's really as simple as that.

 

[Vulpini]

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