Amateratsu Enton Sapping Abilities

[BlinkST]

Senjutsu =/= to NE so Idk know what you're saying.

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Really now? I could have sworn the manga said something else.

As for the first response, he claims that burning and destroying are inversely used when in fact Ay's was not destroyed the moment it made contact with Enton.

Ay's arm does not need to get destroyed instantaneously to render the statement false; this is you playing more word games.

 

[ComplexCity]

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Really now? I could have sworn the manga said something else.


Ay's arm does not need to get destroyed instantaneously to render the statement false; this is you playing more word games.

Now you're contradicting Shelke"s statement because he said Enton and Amateratsu burn instantly. It's not me playing word games burn =/= destroyed. If his arm was destroyed, he would not have been able to use it


Utlizing NE to use Senjutsu is not the same as it being one and the same. If you read correctly Naruto said toad attack are senjutsu (which use sage chakra: Physical Energy + Spiritual Energy + Nature Energy all balanced) and use NE. NE is one component of Sage Chakra, sage chakara is a totally new thing all together

It's the same thing as comparing water to a hydrogen atom

 

[shelke]

I originally thought you might have had some kind of real point when I saw Shelke's antagonistic response to your OP, but wow, this is just inexcusable, and I frankly would have gotten banned for telling you even worse.

You are seriously playing semantics over someone saying Amaterasu is capable of "sapping" Senjutsu, when this is perfectly in-line with the manga.

Now you're contradicting Shelke"s statement because he said Enton and Amateratsu burn instantly. It's not me playing word games burn =/= destroyed. If his arm was destroyed, he would not have been able to use it

Utlizing NE to use Senjutsu is not the same as it being one and the same. If you read correctly Naruto said toad attack are senjutsu (which use sage chakra: Physical Energy + Spiritual Energy + Nature Energy all balanced) and use NE. NE is one component of Sage Chakra, sage chakara is a totally new thing all together

It's the same thing as comparing water to a hydrogen atom

Keep arguing amongst yourselves and don't bring me into this.

@Complex: I claimed no such thing. In fact, I have told you repeatedly that Amaterasu and Enton work differently; one saps slowly, the other quickly depending upon how much Amaterasu is focused upon the target or how many flames are summoned. In IT's case the sapping occurred very quickly, because the cave reverted back immediately after Sasuke expanded Amaterasu around himself and Itachi.

It's just one, petty face-saving from you after another. First it was the word nonsense, then semantics, and now you are endeavouring really hard to put the blame of your foolish interpretation on me. What a shame, most of you NB fanboys, all of you work on the same tangent; illiteracy and buffoonery.

 

[ComplexCity]

Keep arguing amongst yourselves and don't bring me into this. I claimed no such thing. In fact, I have told you repeatedly that Amaterasu and Enton work differently; one saps slowly, the other quickly depending upon how much Amaterasu is focused upon the target or how many flames are summoned. In IT's case the sapping occurred very quickly, because the cave reverted back immediately after Sasuke expanded Amaterasu around himself and Itachi.

It's just one, petty face-saving from you after another. First it was the word nonsense, then semantics, and now you are endeavouring really hard to put the blame of your foolish interpretation on me. What a shame, most of you NB fanboys, all of you work on the same tangent; illiteracy and buffoonery.

Enton is nothing but the manipulation of Amateratsu flames

Amateratsu didn't burn through the samurais armor instantly your argument is invalid

 

[shelke]

Enton is nothing but the manipulation of Amateratsu flames

Amateratsu didn't burn through the samurais armor instantly your argument is invalid

There he goes again, raving like a loon. Here comes another trigger happy dislike. It looks like fetish for you. You click on the dislike button repeatedly, and then sigh and moan in union with the feverish taps, apparently.

I can go at this all day, if you prefer it. Like I said, chakra, in that other thread; armour isn't chakra, nor was Amaterasu focused on it. It merely latched on the armour as it appeared in front of the Samurai and then latched on him. Sasuke never even looked at him. That head of yours is precarious as it is. I am sure, come third post, this will slip your lamely-dodgy mind as well. I can't wait to see that.

 

[ComplexCity]

There he goes again, raving like a loon. Here comes another trigger happy dislike. It looks like fetish for you. You click on the dislike button repeatedly, and then sigh and moan in union with the feverish taps, apparently.

I can go at this all day, if you prefer it. Like I said, chakra, in that other thread; armour isn't chakra, nor was Amaterasu focused on it. It merely latched on the armour as it appeared in front of the Samurai and then latched on him. Sasuke never even looked at him. That head of yours is precarious as it is. I am sure, come third post, this will slip your lamely-dodgy mind as well. I can't wait to see that.

Sasuke never looked at him yet Amateratsu works by focusing on the object you want to ignite on fire




Please oh dear lord jesus please show me where Amaterarsu has different effects of burning based off whether its chakara or not. Please show me where it says that. You can't, you know why? Because it's more BS pulled out of your ass. Amateratsu burns hotter than the surface of sun according to you so it should have been burned whether it was focused or not

 

[Punk Hazard]

Why is this bullshit still going on?

Amaterasu can burn through anything but Onmyoudon, but does so extremely slowly. We done here?

 

[ComplexCity]

Why is this bullshit still going on?

Amaterasu can burn through anything but Onmyoudon, but does so extremely slowly. We done here?

Amateratsu can't burned through NE nor is it the argument presented

That's like saying it can burn through PE or SE


If it annoys you do bad why even click the thread :|

 

[shelke]

Sasuke never looked at him yet Amateratsu works by focusing on the object you want to ignite on fire




Please oh dear lord jesus please show me where Amaterarsu has different effects of burning based off whether its chakara or not. Please show me where it says that. You can't, you know why? Because it's more BS pulled out of your ass. Amateratsu burns hotter than the surface of sun according to you so it should have been burned whether it was focused or not

Precisely. You are more than welcome to even post the scans here one by one, but, you'll find me right and you? Well, making several fly-swatting stabs in the dark. Sasuke was still looking at Ae when he side-stepped. The guy was right behind the flame, but Sasuke looked away. However, the man was still in his line of sight and it had lingered there, hence, it appeared right in front of him and then it latched on. Come on now. Post those scans here.

At 5778 K - 6000 K, I have read elsewhere -, the Temp of the surface of the sun is not anything special. Furnaces burn hotter than that and the bolt of Lightning's Temp far exceeds it. It's around 30,000 K, actually. How many times have I told you this? Write this on your hand, because, your head is very untrustworthy.

 

[ComplexCity]

Precisely. You are more than welcome to even post the scans here one by one, but, you'll find me right and you? Well, making several fly-swatting stabs in the dark. Sasuke was still looking at Ae when he side-stepped. The guy was right behind the flame, but Sasuke looked away. However, the man was still in his line of sight and it had lingered there, hence, it appeared right in front of him and then latched it on. Come on now. Post those scans here.

Herp derp you're telling things I already know. If he was in his line of vision then obvious he was in Sasuke's sight. Amateratsu has to be focused in order to hit a target as proved by Itachi, herp derp :sdo:

At 5778 K - 6000 K, I have read elsewhere -, the Temp of the surface of the sun is not anything special. Furnaces burn hotter than that and the bolt of Lightning's Temp far exceeds it. It's around 30,000K, actually. How many times have I told you this? Write this on your hand, because, your head is very untrustworthy.
AKA 10,000+ degree F and it still couldn't burn the metal armor. Doesn't matter if it was chakra or not. Your argument is invalid

*waits for Shelke to use ass pulled fanfic or twist words*

 

[shelke]

*waits for Shelke to use ass pulled fanfic or twist words*

You don't understand the difference between line of sight and Foveal vision? I don't think this is a place to spoon feed you biology.

Already explained this; it works on chakra very effectively and an unfocused flame burns very very slowly. How long is this shenanigan going to continue, as you seem to be doing badly, even for a quintessentially poor non-thinker?

 

[ComplexCity]

You don't understand the difference between line of sight and Foveal vision? I don't think this is a place to spoon feed you biology.
Amateratsu needs to be focused within a line of sight in order to ignite the target as shown by Itachi's inability to catch Sasuke when he first (tried to) focus(ed) on him due to his poor vison and blindness


Already explained this; it works on chakra very effectively and an unfocused flame burns very very slowly. How long is this shenanigan going to continue, as you seem to be doing badly, even for a quintessentially poor non-thinker?
If it's burning at 10,000F it doesn't matter how slow it was burning

You goofy goober, can you actually raise a proper argument please?

 

[BlinkST]

Now you're contradicting Shelke"s statement because he said Enton and Amateratsu burn instantly. It's not me playing word games burn =/= destroyed. If his arm was destroyed, he would not have been able to use it

Apparently you're putting words in his mouth.

Utlizing NE to use Senjutsu is not the same as it being one and the same.

They are one and the same for all intents and purposes.

If you read correctly Naruto said toad attack are senjutsu (which use sage chakra: Physical Energy + Spiritual Energy + Nature Energy all balanced) and use NE. NE is one component of Sage Chakra, sage chakara is a totally new thing all together

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And the manga showed that just that 35% portion of NE, held up the entire jutsu. It was not like the parts composed of PE and SE were destroyed when they came into contact, and the NE portion vanished into thin air. If what you're suggesting is true, it would have been like when Sasuke used Amaterasu on Obito.

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You had nothing but arguments, and mere arguments aren't always truthful.

 

[ComplexCity]

Apparently you're putting words in his mouth.


They are one and the same for all intents and purposes.

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And the manga showed that just that 35% portion of NE, held up the entire jutsu. It was not like the parts composed of PE and SE were destroyed when they came into contact, and the NE portion vanished into thin air. If what you're suggesting is true, it would have been like when Sasuke used Amaterasu on Obito.

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You had nothing but arguments, and mere arguments aren't always truthful.

2. I'm not putting words in your mouth, that's what the scan said. NE =/= Senjutsu


3. No they are not. That's like saying H2 is the same as water. Senjutsu cannot exist with out all 3 components.

Don't really see what you're trying to prove

 

[Punk Hazard]

Amateratsu can't burned through NE nor is it the argument presented

That's like saying it can burn through PE or SE


If it annoys you do bad why even click the thread :|

What is PE and SE?

Anyways, Amaterasu is slated to be able to burn anything. The only thing exempt to this rule has been Onmyoudon. So far, nothing indicates that Amaterasu would be unable to burn Nature Energy if they made contact.

 

[ComplexCity]

What is PE and SE?

Anyways, Amaterasu is slated to be able to burn anything. The only thing exempt to this rule has been Onmyoudon. So far, nothing indicates that Amaterasu would be unable to burn Nature Energy if they made contact.

Wtf are you talking about? NE is found in everything in nature as stated in the manga. Can you show me a scan if it burning NE

 

[Punk Hazard]

Wtf are you talking about? NE is found in everything in nature as stated in the manga. Can you show me a scan if it burning NE

NE being in everything in nature doesn't mean Amaterasu can't burn it.

What's your basis that Amaterasu cannot burn NE?

 

[ComplexCity]

NE being in everything in nature doesn't mean Amaterasu can't burn it.

What's your basis that Amaterasu cannot burn NE?

That it hasn't burned any of the surrounding NE that has been obviously in the all and all around it

 

[Punk Hazard]

That it hasn't burned any of the surrounding NE that has been obviously in the all and all around it

You don't know this though. You can't see NE, so you don't know if it could or have burned through it.

 

[BlinkST]

2. I'm not putting words in your mouth, that's what the scan said. NE =/= Senjutsu

What scan?

3. No they are not. That's like saying H2 is the same as water. Senjutsu cannot exist with out all 3 components.

No, that's called false equivalency. The manga already disproved you with the Obito example, and furthermore:.

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Absorbing Sage chakra means absorbing natural energy. You're arguing they are not the "same", because Senjutsu (A balance of three energies) is not the same as natural energy by itself, when I already showed you: Obito's Onmyoton did not destroy the spiritual energy and physical energy portion of the toad's attack, in the same way it destroyed Sasuke's Amaterasu that had no natural energy.

Get it now? A senjutsu merely incorporating 35% natural energy is as good as being made up entirely of natural energy for the purpose of this debate.