Amaterasu is not Instant

[The Robot With Human Hair]

Oh, so you were talking about that. Yes, if by stick you mean created a barrier to completely shield himself from Sasuke's field of vision.

That was Kagu-Tsuchi.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Oh, so you were talking about that. Yes, if by stick you mean created a barrier to completely shield himself from Sasuke's field of vision.

That was Kagu-Tsuchi.

what barrier dude ?? he was flipping his the damn stick to block it (reread/rewatch the whole thing) and sorry but, do you even know what "Kagu-Tsuchi" is/does ??

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

what barrier dude ?? he was flipping his the damn stick to block it (reread/rewatch the whole thing).

Where exactly does that motion lead you to believe that Obito used his staff for any other purpose than what I just said?

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Where exactly does that motion lead you to believe that Obito used his staff for any other purpose than what I just said?

Obito started moving right after Sauske unleashed his Amaterasu, something instant wouldn't leave him room to react (even if he anticipated it) also look at the motion of Amaterasu after being repelled by Obito's block.

and you keep repeating the "field of vision" explanation when it has nothing to do with it, Amaterasu does Travel (really fast) from the user's eye to the target, only the fastest of targets or the ones that can anticipate it can deal with it.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

Obito started moving right after Sauske unleashed his Amaterasu, something instant wouldn't leave him room to react (even if he anticipated it) also look at the motion of Amaterasu after being repelled by Obito's block.

and you keep repeating the "field of vision" explanation when it has nothing to do with it, Amaterasu does Travel (really fast) from the user's eye to the target, only the fastest of targets or the ones that can anticipate it can deal with it.

@Bold, This is not shown, nor implied. He absorbs it, there's nothing off about that motion.

After it is activated it follows the center of the users vision, aside from that, Ama spawns, it's never implied to fly out of the users eye socket.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

@Bold, This is not shown, nor implied. He absorbs it, there's nothing off about that motion.

After it is activated it follows the center of the users vision, aside from that, Ama spawns, it's never implied to fly out of the users eye socket.

Actually in a way it does appear from the user's eyes, otherwise Gara and Jubito shouldn't be able to react/block FLAMES that are supposed to instantly appear on their bodies if the user is just looking at you.

And who started Jubito (blocking) or Sasuke (attacking) might not be clear in that scan but, the exact same scene/exact same details was more clear in the Anime.

Overall Amaterasu has been one of if not the most inconsistent Jutsu in this series, especially when it comes to it's speed (from Gara to Raikage to Obito and even when Itachi used it) and how fast it can burn it's target but, that's a different discussion.

The only instant Jutsu in this series is FTG.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

Actually in a ways it does appear from the user's eyes, otherwise Gara and Jubito shouldn't be able to react/block FLAMES that are supposed to instantly appear on their bodies if the user is just looking at you.

and yeah it might not be clear here who started Jubito (blocking) or Sasuke (attacking but, the exact same scene (exact same details) was clearer in the Anime.

overall Amaterasu has been one of if not the most inconsistent Jutsu in this series, especially when it comes to the speed (from Gara to Raikage to Obito and even when Itachi used it) and how fast it can burn it's target but, that's a different discussion.

Obito was implied to have the ability to sense chakra build up, and with Rinnegan he should be able to see Ama coming easily. As I said, Gaara blocked Kagu-Tsuchi which controls already existing flames, which is why it was flung at 3 targets simultaneously.

This is true regarding consistency, though that's mostly been nerfing it's heat, rather than the mechanics of the jutsu.

EDIT: Itachi intentionally missed when he used it on Sasuke, just wanted to put this out there.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Obito was implied to have the ability to sense chakra build up, and with Rinnegan he should be able to see Ama coming easily. As I said, Gaara blocked Kagu-Tsuchi which controls already existing flames, which is why it was flung at 3 targets simultaneously.

This is true regarding consistency, though that's mostly been nerfing it's heat, rather than the mechanics of the jutsu.

Edited that post.

what Gara blocked during the kage summit wasn't a from of "Kagu-Tsuchi", the flames were appearing right in front of the Raikage.

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Seriously, you think if someone can anticipate something Instant, he can react to it ??

remember this is not FTG where the user will still has to move to strike his target after teleporting, these are flames that appear on the target meaning, unavoidable the exact moment the user look at you (CONSTANT movement faster than the user can notice you is the only solution but, that's not the case here/didn't happen).

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

Edited that post.

what Gara blocked during the kage summit wasn't a from of "Kagu-Tsuchi", the flames were appearing right in front of the Raikage.

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Seriously, you think if someone can anticipate something Instant, he can react to it ??

remember this is not FTG where the user will still have to move to strike his target after teleporting, this is flames that appear on the target meaning, unavoidable the exact moment the user looked at you.

Why are you using anime as an example? Or is that a game animation? Either way, it's non canon, and that even more-so than the anime. Gaara blocked Kagu-Tsuchi in the manga.

Amaterasu has prep time, it's been sensed and countered by numerous people.

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There, Amaterasu spawning on the focal point of the users vision.

 

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No it is an instant technique it appears like teleportation and continues attacking visually. Just like how tobirama attack Madara nobody can attack during teleportation.

Basically it makes itself visible to attack close the enemy.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Why are you using anime as an example? Or is that a game animation? Either way, it's non canon, and that even more-so than the anime. Gaara blocked Kagu-Tsuchi in the manga.

Amaterasu has prep time, it's been sensed and countered by numerous people.

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There, Amaterasu spawning on the focal point of the users vision.

lol nope these are not from a game, i'm using the Anime-scene to explain a point (motion will make it more clear) and it not being cannon has nothing to do with the scenes that are done exactly the same (every single detail) unless you don't like it because it doesn't serve your point bro (the scene didn't contradict anything cannon in the Manga) and want to just discard it.

and again Amaterasu can take an hour of prep time, no one can dodge INSTANT even when they can anticipate it, they sense a build up of power but, not a timer (there's none/instant).

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

Look in the description of the video, it's from Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations. I've seen that episode of the anime, this doesn't happen, but the anime screws up adapting events too often to consider them credible, even as an example in motion.

All I'm saying is that stating someone dodged Ama is misunderstanding the mechanics of the jutsu.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Look in the description of the video, it's from Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations. I've seen that episode of the anime, this doesn't happen, but the anime screws up adapting events too often to consider them credible, even as an example in motion.

All I'm saying is that stating someone dodged Ama is misunderstanding the mechanics of the jutsu.

lol can't believe i linked the wrong video ................... (apologies)

but, someone blocking it like Obito makes the whole "instant" thing questionable (no one can react no matter what to instant) unless they know it's prep time + can sense the power build up which is another thing that's inconsistent, the prep time that is.

anyways i'll leave it at that.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

lol can't believe i linked the wrong video ................... (apologies)

but, someone blocking it like Obito makes the whole "instant" thing questionable (no one can react no matter what to instant) unless they know it's prep time + can sense the power build up which is another thing that's inconsistent, the prep time that is.

anyways i'll leave it at that.

All they need to do is put something between them and the users line of sight while it's being prepped.

 

[TimeMask]

I think the speed of Amaterasu may depend on how good a persons eyesight is but space time jutsu should always be faster then Amaterasu.

Amaterasu basically is created were you are looking, its not instant but its faster then most other jutsu and with better eyesight you should have better accuracy with Amaterasu (in theory).

For example EMS Sasuke should be able to spam Amaterasu on multiple targets faster then MS Itachi could since Itachi's eyesight was bad. With bad eyesight it takes more time for Itachi's eyes to focus on a target.


Its like when Raikage dodged Amaterasu and then Sasuke saw the samurai behind Raikage so the Amaterasu hit the samurai. With better eyesight you can more quickly focus your eyes on a target.

I'm not sure if better eyesight / EMS would effect the speed Amaterasu is created but it would effect the speed you focus on a target and can start creating the Amaterasu. With EMS you have less eyestrain so that could help.

 

[Selan]

Amaterasu is far, far, far from instant. There are a lot of things, jutsu and people faster than Amaterasu. Even long range Kamui, as fast as it it, isn't really instant. I mean, before Amaterasu could be shot Killer Bee could throw a sword (

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), mind that a sword thrown by Killer Bee it's not fast enough to not be dodged by base Edo Fu (

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), strong but not exactly a top tier.

 

[super yang]

no, its just as ''instant'' as anything else w/ that label

 

[BlazeRelease]

It's as "instant" as ftg. It's appearance and effect are instant, but it's activation is not. That's why people like obito and nagato knew better than to try and dodge it; they sensed it and prepared for the attack. Although nagato couldn't do anything in time.

Raikage and co obviously had a lot of Intel on the mangekyo sharingan, particularly Amaterasu. Raikage probably knew what was coming. That scan seems to be showing sasuke staring at raikage, and just as amaterasu is finished preparing, raikage moves out of the way, so they spawn on the very next thing sasuke sees; the samurai.

And itachi was just pressuring sasuke, surely no one thinks he was trying to put all those flames into sasuke or he would have just trapped him with the flames by putting them all over the building, not the forest. He was trying to get him to use the substitution to drain his chakra so orochimaru would resurface.

 

[End of Days]

yeah amaterasu is a joke, the sky is blue, why say obvious things?

 

[Brünhild]

Not even the light is instant.