Amaterasu>>>>>>>>>>>>>FRS

genii96 · Jan 8, 2014

Katon>fuuton. This is common sense. Amaterasu is the highest level katon.
However,you cant compare them to their uses,fire and wind are different things

TheTailedSage · Jan 8, 2014

Your comparison on Dog summon is a poor example because RS and ammy have different properties. Ammy burns untill there is nothing left but RS destroys victims, Amatarasu burns for ages its a natural counter for an ability like dog summons.

Amatarasu is blaze release anyway so naturally its stronger than fuuton jutsu, but your taking their uses and damage scale out of context.

End of Days · Jan 9, 2014

VolatileSoul said:
I know it's difficult, but manga fact>your opinion. They animals burned down, and Nagato was not defeated. Even Jiraiya defeated the dog without defeating animal path. It's right there in black and white.

provide scan of jiraiya defeating the dog summon, i shall wait

hint: no such scan exists, dont watch fillers and come to this section to debate and embarrass yourself

talking about manga fact the way to defeat the dogs is to defeat nagato and nagato was lying on the ground burning until kabuto took control of nagato back, unless you think a rasengan can defeat a path but amaterasu is insufficient to defeat nagato

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Myojinmon isn't even a sealing technique.

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Can't tank Rasenshuriken? He did. I'm not interested in your fan fiction.

you are the one who came in here blatantly claiming that madara tanked rasenshuriken, lets look at some of madara's tanking feats

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and madara himself said a small rasenshuriken is too much and had to resort to preta path to absorb it, looks like manga disagrees with your fanfiction that madara can tank rasenshuriken

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You are saying it did and he regenerated off panel despite it not being shown or even implied.

a lot of things happen off-panel dear boy, kishi does not need to spoon-feed you every information, did you see hashirama using myoujinmon gates on madara, no

but then why were the gates present on top of madara? because it happened off-panel

Fact is Rasenshuriken cannot destroy clothes, or injure a man who can get cut in half by kicks and damaged by blades.

Or maybe they'll just tank Rasenshuriken with their bodies, seeing as it can't even destroy clothes or a man who got cut in half with a kick and pierced by swords.U_U

Rasenshuriken has been described as a poison that affects a person's internal chakra network, i dont care whether a person's clothes remain intact after getting defeated, but i do care about destroying a person so much that he cant even mold chakra after the hit which rasenshuriken did to kakuzu

shame that karin and samurai walked away after getting hit by amaterasu

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lmao

Hashirama said the jutsu was not enough to defeat him. If you're going to damage control, at least be semi competent at it. No where was it said or even implied that he regenerated, and if he needed to, Sai would have used the opportunity to seal him.

you dim-witted moron...
sai was flying down on his ink bird with naruto, hashirama pinned down madara and waited for sai to come, sai couldnt seal madara because he wasnt there

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here is when sai reached madara, hashirama was waiting for ninjas capable of sealing edos

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Manhandled? Since he has revived, not a single person manhandled him, and he just finished beating all nine bijuu with ease. Not even Hashirama could stop him. He even admitted he lets people knock him around since he can heal of all the damage.

the nine bijuus took turns in beating him around and didnt even use their strongest attack bijuu dama
they also broke down his susanoo

hashirama had him pinned down until black zetsu intervened, madara couldnt even steal his sage mode until he was revived at full power

lots more but thats not the topic

Xlad · Jan 9, 2014

End of Days said:
provide scan of jiraiya defeating the dog summon, i shall wait

hint: no such scan exists, dont watch fillers and come to this section to debate and embarrass yourself

talking about manga fact the way to defeat the dogs is to defeat nagato and nagato was lying on the ground burning until kabuto took control of nagato back, unless you think a rasengan can defeat a path but amaterasu is insufficient to defeat nagato

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you are the one who came in here blatantly claiming that madara tanked rasenshuriken, lets look at some of madara's tanking feats

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and madara himself said a small rasenshuriken is too much and had to resort to preta path to absorb it, looks like manga disagrees with your fanfiction that madara can tank rasenshuriken

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a lot of things happen off-panel dear boy, kishi does not need to spoon-feed you every information, did you see hashirama using myoujinmon gates on madara, no

but then why were the gates present on top of madara? because it happened off-panel

Rasenshuriken has been described as a poison that affects a person's internal chakra network, i dont care whether a person's clothes remain intact after getting defeated, but i do care about destroying a person so much that he cant even mold chakra after the hit which rasenshuriken did to kakuzu

shame that karin and samurai walked away after getting hit by amaterasu

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lmao

you dim-witted moron...
sai was flying down on his ink bird with naruto, hashirama pinned down madara and waited for sai to come, sai couldnt seal madara because he wasnt there

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here is when sai reached madara, hashirama was waiting for ninjas capable of sealing edos

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the nine bijuus took turns in beating him around and didnt even use their strongest attack bijuu dama
they also broke down his susanoo

hashirama had him pinned down until black zetsu intervened, madara couldnt even steal his sage mode until he was revived at full power

lots more but thats not the topic

This.

Amaterasu is greater than FRS in terms of elemental advantage.
However, FRS is much greater than Amaterasu in terms of firepower. It also seems that you are trying to use A>B>C logic in the case.
- First of all, the Cerberus was designed to multiply every time it gets physically cut apart. All cutting attacks, regardless of power, will not destroyed the Cerberus, but end up splitting the damn dog into more dogs. So the Rasenshuriken happen to be against its worst matchup so to speak. That's like saying a gunship is less powerful than a battle tank because it can't destroyed the AA tank.

Amaterasu on the other hand, does not cut but rather burn the target. That's why it was better suited against Cerberus. Oh speaking of dogs, who else was kinda disappointed that Snoop Dogg changed to Snoop Lion. If you know who he is.

TheTailedSage · Jan 9, 2014

End of Days said:
provide scan of jiraiya defeating the dog summon, i shall wait

hint: no such scan exists, dont watch fillers and come to this section to debate and embarrass yourself

talking about manga fact the way to defeat the dogs is to defeat nagato and nagato was lying on the ground burning until kabuto took control of nagato back, unless you think a rasengan can defeat a path but amaterasu is insufficient to defeat nagato

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you are the one who came in here blatantly claiming that madara tanked rasenshuriken, lets look at some of madara's tanking feats

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and madara himself said a small rasenshuriken is too much and had to resort to preta path to absorb it, looks like manga disagrees with your fanfiction that madara can tank rasenshuriken

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a lot of things happen off-panel dear boy, kishi does not need to spoon-feed you every information, did you see hashirama using myoujinmon gates on madara, no

but then why were the gates present on top of madara? because it happened off-panel

Rasenshuriken has been described as a poison that affects a person's internal chakra network, i dont care whether a person's clothes remain intact after getting defeated, but i do care about destroying a person so much that he cant even mold chakra after the hit which rasenshuriken did to kakuzu

shame that karin and samurai walked away after getting hit by amaterasu

and speaking of clothes

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lmao

you dim-witted moron...
sai was flying down on his ink bird with naruto, hashirama pinned down madara and waited for sai to come, sai couldnt seal madara because he wasnt there

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here is when sai reached madara, hashirama was waiting for ninjas capable of sealing edos

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the nine bijuus took turns in beating him around and didnt even use their strongest attack bijuu dama
they also broke down his susanoo

hashirama had him pinned down until black zetsu intervened, madara couldnt even steal his sage mode until he was revived at full power

lots more but thats not the topic

This.Im always the first guy to complain when it comes to people saying things like "you got burned" but its needed in this case

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I thought it was common knowledge that Madara cant tank RS from the Preta sccan in the manga, im surprised you needed proof Vio

VolatileSoul · Jan 10, 2014

End of Days said:
provide scan of jiraiya defeating the dog summon, i shall wait

hint: no such scan exists, dont watch fillers and come to this section to debate and embarrass yourself

How ironic. Just below you posted Kishi didn't need to spoon feed us everything by putting things on panel. Now you're asking for a panel of Jiraiya beating the dog? I just love the hypocrisy. Then give me a panel of Hashirama regenerating. You can't? Well I guess this argument ended before it even began. And filler? Jiraiya obviously defeated the dog. Why the hell would Nagato unsummon something that was dominating Jiraiya.

talking about manga fact the way to defeat the dogs is to defeat nagato and nagato was lying on the ground burning until kabuto took control of nagato back, unless you think a rasengan can defeat a path but amaterasu is insufficient to defeat nagato

Considering Nagato blew the flames away, Yah. They are insufficient. We freaking saw as much. We also saw the dog burn down. But I guess you're just going to ignore that. By the way, Nagato>Paths.

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Like I said. Not the kind of seal needed to seal an Edo. Or did you miss that?

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you are the one who came in here blatantly claiming that madara tanked rasenshuriken, lets look at some of madara's tanking feats

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and madara himself said a small rasenshuriken is too much and had to resort to preta path to absorb it, looks like manga disagrees with your fanfiction that madara can tank rasenshuriken

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Look at that. Getting impaled by blades but a freaking Giant Rasenshuriken can't beat him. It did damage Madara as Hashi said, still failed to beat him. Blame Kishimoto's inconsistency. He gets stabbed by Sasuke's sword yet tanks the Bijuu treating him like a ping pong ball. Maybe Sasuke's sword is just that good. Who knows.

a lot of things happen off-panel dear boy, kishi does not need to spoon-feed you every information, did you see hashirama using myoujinmon gates on madara, no

but then why were the gates present on top of madara? because it happened off-panel

We saw the Myojinmon. That alone is evidence the technique was used. There is no evidence of regeneration other than your assumption, and the manga disagrees since it said Madara was not defeated by it.

Kishi doesn't need to spoon feed us huh? You mean like Jiraiya defeated the Cerberus? Such beautiful hypocrisy. Jiraiya didn't beat the dog since it happened off panel. I can say the same about Madara needing to regenerate. Especially since Hashirama said the attack could not defeat Madara.

Rasenshuriken has been described as a poison that affects a person's internal chakra network, i dont care whether a person's clothes remain intact after getting defeated, but i do care about destroying a person so much that he cant even mold chakra after the hit which rasenshuriken did to kakuzu

Dear me. I'm not denying Rasenshuriken's power. Nor am I denying the fact that it damaged Madara. Just pointing out that Ama is superior. Since you know. It can damage things Rasenshuriken can't scratch. By no means am I saying it's a crappy technique.

shame that karin and samurai walked away after getting hit by amaterasu

I could say the same about Edo Madara, the man who got split in half by a kick and impaled by swords.

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lmao

Oh good. It can destroy clothes. It finally got on Amaterasu's level.

you dim-witted moron...
sai was flying down on his ink bird with naruto, hashirama pinned down madara and waited for sai to come, sai couldnt seal madara because he wasnt there

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here is when sai reached madara, hashirama was waiting for ninjas capable of sealing edos

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Now now. No need to throw around insults like a petulant child. My mistake. My point still stands though. It still failed to defeat Madara.

the nine bijuus took turns in beating him around and didnt even use their strongest attack bijuu dama
they also broke down his susanoo

hashirama had him pinned down until black zetsu intervened, madara couldnt even steal his sage mode until he was revived at full power

lots more but thats not the topic

Just the next chapter he admitted to Zetsu that he didn't bother defending since he had Hashirama's regenerative abilities. He then proceeded to stomp all nine bijuu with ease. He can absorb Bijuudama and they knew that so not sure why you felt that was relevant. This is basically saying the Kage's manhandled Madara because the made him regenerate a few times.

End of Days · Jan 10, 2014

VolatileSoul said:
And filler? Jiraiya obviously defeated the dog. Why the hell would Nagato unsummon something that was dominating Jiraiya

Kishi doesn't need to spoon feed us huh? You mean like Jiraiya defeated the Cerberus? Such beautiful hypocrisy. Jiraiya didn't beat the dog since it happened off panel. I can say the same about Madara needing to regenerate.

How ironic. Just below you posted Kishi didn't need to spoon feed us everything by putting things on panel. Now you're asking for a panel of Jiraiya beating the dog?

lmao, let me post some scans since you for some weird reason refuse to do so, despite my request

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now i would like you to point out where it is that jiraiya defeats the dog or is even hinted to have defeated the dog
because if you cannot post a scan of something happening you can at least post some other proof or hint as to prove that that particular thing happened off-panel for sure

in these pages, jiraiya and gamaken are clearly struggling (jiraiya has his hands clasped and cant use them to do jutsu in case you didnt know

the dog has 10 heads meaning it has already split 10 times which in turn clearly means that they dont have anything to defeat the dog and the dog just tanks their attacks and splits

now you come in and claim that jiraiya miraculously defeats the dog despite the fact that he and gamaken are already struggling with it and jiraiya cant even use his hands

and not only that gamaken and jiraiya get thrown to the ground by the bird and then a giant bull comes in and rams jiraiya to the wall and after which he enters sage mode and then the fight goes on with the paths etc etc

you must be reading some special edition of the manga because i do not see where jiraiya defeated or even hinted to have defeated the dog

I just love the hypocrisy. Then give me a panel of Hashirama regenerating. You can't? Well I guess this argument ended before it even began.

i have provided enough hints to conclude that madara cannot tank attack like rasenshuriken

-madara immediately resorting to preta path when he was about to be hit by a mini rasenshuriken
-madara lacking a body (by feats and lack of hype) like third raikage and a defensive jutsu like raiton no yoroi

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a body with flesh like steel and blood like iron

we also know that third's son who doenst exactly have a body as tough as third can tank a point blank chidori

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and we know for a fact that chidori is a superior penetrating jutsu to that of a sword

so madara cant even tank a sword (twice) but the raikage's can tank chidori who is superior to swords clearly shows that madara's body alone is nowhere near durable than that of a raikage's

Considering Nagato blew the flames away, Yah. They are insufficient. We freaking saw as much. We also saw the dog burn down. But I guess you're just going to ignore that. By the way, Nagato>Paths.

nagato was hit, obviously he cant die as he is already dead

-manga statement by nagato himself that the way to defeat the dog is to hit him
-itachi hit him with amaterasu
-amaterasu burned away a considerable amount of his flesh

that much damage is enough to defeat a human, i am not inclined to discuss this more, you keep denying it

nagato's jutsus are stronger than paths, but physically he is weaker than the paths as he cant even stand much less run or fight a taijutsu battle with sage mode naruto

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dumb logic

Like I said. Not the kind of seal needed to seal an Edo. Or did you miss that?

its the seal that hashirama possess, its the one he planned to use on madara as he said in the chapter, you still dont get it do you?

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why hashirama had to wait for a fodder like sai?

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because he doesn't have a jutsu capable of sealing edos

Blame Kishimoto's inconsistency. He gets stabbed by Sasuke's sword yet tanks the Bijuu treating him like a ping pong ball. Maybe Sasuke's sword is just that good. Who knows.

there is no inconsistency, just mindless wank by tards

and madara tanking bijuu hits? lmao

-his body had several bruises
-blood was coming out of his mouth

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even karin and sage mode naruto survived hits from bijuus

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now stop the uchiha wank and get back to topic

We saw the Myojinmon. That alone is evidence the technique was used. There is no evidence of regeneration other than your assumption, and the manga disagrees since it said Madara was not defeated by it.

Especially since Hashirama said the attack could not defeat Madara.

Now now. No need to throw around insults like a petulant child. My mistake. My point still stands though. It still failed to defeat Madara.

Look at that. Getting impaled by blades but a freaking Giant Rasenshuriken can't beat him. It did damage Madara as Hashi said, still failed to beat him.

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the only way to defeat an edo tensei is to seal it, this has been made clear plenty of times in the manga as any other attack they would just regenerate from

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tobirama regenerated from obito's black orbs
hiruzen too regenerated from the same attack
madara regenerated after getting hit by two meteors

all these attacks were insufficient to defeat these edos

Dear me. I'm not denying Rasenshuriken's power. Nor am I denying the fact that it damaged Madara. Just pointing out that Ama is superior. Since you know. It can damage things Rasenshuriken can't scratch. By no means am I saying it's a crappy technique.

Oh good. It can destroy clothes. It finally got on Amaterasu's level.

not only did it destroy the clothes but it also destroyed the one who was wearing the clothes, but ama barely destroyed karin's clothes and samurai's armor
not only that karin and samurai walked away without any permanent injuries

so i guess that means frs is a step ahead of amaterasu?

Amaterasu>>>>>>>>>>>>>FRS

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