[Discussion] Am I the only one who...

Raekwon26

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
May 15, 2013
Messages
5,263
Reaction score
422
Yes, everyone is waiting to see the true Madara.

Maybe he'll want to pee and so he will be defeated, since that's his weak spot.

Let me dream. =D

He has been forced to take a backseat do Kishi can really hammer the friendship/Jesus stuff home.
Hopefully, that stuff ends now. We need some suspense, we haven't gotten any for a really long while.
 

AllomnisymbolsparttwoT

Banned
Elite
Joined
Mar 25, 2013
Messages
5,247
Reaction score
478
Seems evil to me :I

You must be registered for see images
he seems so happy that the Juubi killed ino and shikamaru dad plus raikage's peeps
 

Mr Hiru

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
May 23, 2013
Messages
6,415
Reaction score
546
Being evil doesn't mean you just kill indiscriminately. He wants to take away the wills of everyone who lives in a pseudo-peace.

In real life, when the police kills anyone who is against the law because they don't have other options, they don't become evil.

In anarchist countries, when people kills others for self-defense, they don't become evil.

Ergo, your answer is mostly correct in my opinion. In the case of Madara, there is a further purpose for his moves.

...people forgot both Madara and Obito couldn't have full control over the Juubi and so the Juubi started the rampage, and the one who commanded the killing-spree was Obito.
 

-ahhimane-

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Jun 12, 2012
Messages
8,788
Reaction score
1,162
Madara : (susano'o mode active) You wanna see my real face Hirudora?!!
You must be registered for see images


For now, Madara's acting like this :
You must be registered for see images


This is how Madara gonna crush each and everyone after Obito's chapter.

Slow killing :
You must be registered for see images


Demon-style killing :
You must be registered for see images


This is how he'll munch on Naruto's and Sasuke's brains :
You must be registered for see images


faces of Kages before death :
You must be registered for see images


Fodder condition :
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images


Fodder expression :
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images


Naruto and Sasuke thinking "What is happening?" :
You must be registered for see images


Infinite Tsukuyomi :
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images


After finishing the IT job :
You must be registered for see images
:happy:
You must be registered for see images
 
Last edited:

CurseSealofEarth

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
May 16, 2012
Messages
5,311
Reaction score
644
In real life, when the police kills anyone who is against the law because they don't have other options, they don't become evil.

In anarchist countries, when people kills others for self-defense, they don't become evil.

Ergo, your answer is mostly correct in my opinion. In the case of Madara, there is a further purpose for his moves.

...people forgot both Madara and Obito couldn't have full control over the Juubi and so the Juubi started the rampage, and the one who commanded the killing-spree was Obito.

Alternate reasons don't bring more meaning to the evil. Sincerity doesn't justify your actions.

So I stand that though they are both misguided, Obito and Madara are evil so long as they think that an illusion will bring true peace. Because shockingly it's an illusion.
 

phantomlord22

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Oct 13, 2011
Messages
4,680
Reaction score
409
no one is true evil in NV
just maybe oro
cuz every one madara , nagato, obito wanted to do the right thing from their own way
but evil have no intention of doing right he just thinks for him self something like oro
 
Joined
Apr 17, 2013
Messages
425
Reaction score
19
Dude did you not read the manga.
1st one does not control Madara, Kabuto was never in control. Look at Tobirama if Orochimaru didn't have Hashirama cells Tobirama would've been free and Hashirama himself could easily get out. Do you think Madara could be controlled by the likes of Kabuto, Madara with Hashirama DNA.
2nd he and Obito nuked HQ and killed millions more with other nukes before they hit HQ.
3rd The true masterminds never kill, they have there underlings do the dirty work
 

Mr Hiru

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
May 23, 2013
Messages
6,415
Reaction score
546
Alternate reasons don't bring more meaning to the evil. Sincerity doesn't justify your actions.

So I stand that though they are both misguided, Obito and Madara are evil so long as they think that an illusion will bring true peace. Because shockingly it's an illusion.

As far as I understand, an evil person (villain) has cruelty, this means he enjoys seeing others suffering. This can be seen like this without any subjectivity.

In the other hand, we have two "antagonists": Madara and Obito. They both carry a flag of justice, they want to achieve peace (as far as we have seen), for they there is something that is good and for other eyes it is bad (we are talking about a breach between freedom and control, both valid ways to achieve peace). That is subjective, Madara and Obito are heroes for their own side and Naruto is the antagonist under Madara's eyes, but in the end both bands want to reach the same objective.

It is very common for people to confuse antagonist with villains.

Both of the antagonist didn't enjoy killing, Obito offered peacefully the villages to bring the Jinchuuriki so the war could be avoided, and Madara thought of this war as a rushed plan, Obito had to bring the bijuus before reviving him. The war was not necessary from the start.

...this is the logic that brings me to think that Madara was not evil, and the proof is out there... "the original plan".

Now, if Madara reveals his plans were really evil and he starts demonstrating cruelty with the only purpose of joy and self-satisfaction, that will be another story.

Dude did you not read the manga.
1st one does not control Madara, Kabuto was never in control. Look at Tobirama if Orochimaru didn't have Hashirama cells Tobirama would've been free and Hashirama himself could easily get out. Do you think Madara could be controlled by the likes of Kabuto, Madara with Hashirama DNA.
2nd he and Obito nuked HQ and killed millions more with other nukes before they hit HQ.
3rd The true masterminds never kill, they have there underlings do the dirty work


You're the one to read it again, mister. Madara only gained control when Itachi captured Kabuto inside Izanami.

no one is true evil in NV
just maybe oro
cuz every one madara , nagato, obito wanted to do the right thing from their own way
but evil have no intention of doing right he just thinks for him self something like oro

Exactly. Evil is the one who seeks for self-satisfaction as final purpose though the sorrow and suffering of others.
 
Last edited:
Top