Am I the only one who hates these Ootsutsuki?

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Truth.

OT: Intruduction of Ootsutsuki have a lot of common with intruduction of sayians, elite alien warrior who are just stronger by nature then humans. One can argue that goku was the sayian from the begining but yet we need to wait more then 150 episodes to discover that.

The same can be said about Naruto and Sasuke, Kishi making them reincarnation of Ashura and Indra, Hagoromo's childs made them like Ootsutsuki, just repeating same move which Akira did. It was basically rip-off dbz sayians race.

However in opposite to sayians race, Ootsutsuki recieved even more poor development which make people angry. There is also repeating use of them as villains to keep having threat in new movies.

As Shin would say: Evolution of the manga happened.

EDIT: I can guess you are fan of Itachi after your nick. What about Yata and Totsuka to be honest their hype also destroyed Naruto for me, so you think it was alright ?

Intrudction of these weapons just forced plot to keep introducing more powerfull characters... The hype in databook was supposed to have meaning...

Anyway Hagoromo alone was fine.
What? Yata and Totsuka are powerful, but I do not see how they would ruin the manga :/

We have seen worse.

Yeah me too I preferred just Rikudou.

He had to be the one God of manga, the father of all the ninja....
 

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Exactly ;). I sign under this.



Truth.

OT: Intruduction of Ootsutsuki have a lot of common with intruduction of sayians, elite alien warrior who are just stronger by nature then humans. One can argue that goku was the sayian from the begining but yet we need to wait more then 150 episodes to discover that.

The same can be said about Naruto and Sasuke, Kishi making them reincarnation of Ashura and Indra, Hagoromo's childs made them like Ootsutsuki, just repeating same move which Akira did. It was basically rip-off dbz sayians race.

However in opposite to sayians race, Ootsutsuki recieved even more poor development which make people angry. There is also repeating use of them as villains to keep having threat in new movies.

As Shin would say: Evolution of the manga happened.

EDIT: I can guess you are fan of Itachi after your nick. What about Yata and Totsuka to be honest their hype also destroyed Naruto for me, so you think it was alright ?

Intrudction of these weapons just forced plot to keep introducing more powerfull characters... The hype in databook was supposed to have meaning...

Anyway Hagoromo alone was fine.

Please tell me how Totsuka or Yata forced the introduction of more powerful chars??
 

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Its just your opinion. Obviously mine is different than yours.
 

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If Kishi didn't rush the manga then they wouldn't suck, Tobirama and Tsunade are also Ootsutsuki btw so you're wrong about them having Dragon Ball powers :coffee:

LOL what :|
 

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What? Yata and Totsuka are powerful, but I do not see how they would ruin the manga :/

We have seen worse.

Yeah me too I preferred just Rikudou.

He had to be the one God of manga, the father of all the ninja....

No Origin or backstory from where they came from, yet they are praised as above god, making Itachi invincible + small feats proving hype.

From this point on I know it could downhill as Kishi overdid this time. I guess Kishi wanted to end the manga soon, so Itachi would never need to use these weapons again so they would be only treated as deux ech machina but sadly he expanded manga forced by his editiors and getting more money to expand plot.

However I agree that Rikudou as God of Narutoverse, would be enough.

Please tell me how Totsuka or Yata forced the introduction of more powerful chars??

"Even attack of God loose it's meaning in presence of shield "- if you don't see motive behind that then I am sorry but you must have reading issue.

I mean hyping these weapons so much and calling Itachi's invincible was intruction of power level big jump, which would continue. Akatsuki leader aka Pain was supposed to be stronger then Itachi, same with Tobi being above Nagato. Also do not forget Kyuubi legendary power...
 

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Exactly ;). I sign under this.



Truth.

OT: Intruduction of Ootsutsuki have a lot of common with intruduction of sayians, elite alien warrior who are just stronger by nature then humans. One can argue that goku was the sayian from the begining but yet we need to wait more then 150 episodes to discover that.

The same can be said about Naruto and Sasuke, Kishi making them reincarnation of Ashura and Indra, Hagoromo's childs made them like Ootsutsuki, just repeating same move which Akira did. It was basically rip-off dbz sayians race.

However in opposite to sayians race, Ootsutsuki recieved even more poor development which make people angry. There is also repeating use of them as villains to keep having threat in new movies.

As Shin would say: Evolution of the manga happened.

EDIT: I can guess you are fan of Itachi after your nick. What about Yata and Totsuka to be honest their hype also destroyed Naruto for me, so you think it was alright ?

Intrudction of these weapons just forced plot to keep introducing more powerfull characters... The hype in databook was supposed to have meaning...

Anyway Hagoromo alone was fine.

You can't argue Bold. Akira Toriyama straight up said they didn't exist and Goku was just a random monkey-boy.
 

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I think Haruma is cool

Kaguya's interesting because by any means she can use any technique she wants.
Meaning Hagoromoo and Haruma can't do any technique that she can't do. (Besides yin yang seals)
 

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I like only Indra....

If Kishimoto mentioned them before, including Kaguya, maybe they would have made sense.
 

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Ootsutsuki clan comes off as Kishi trying to thumbtack something to hold the story together because he failed to do it more naturally otherwise, resulting in me not giving a damn about any of them.
 

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No Origin or backstory from where they came from, yet they are praised as above god, making Itachi invincible + small feats proving hype.

From this point on I know it could downhill as Kishi overdid this time. I guess Kishi wanted to end the manga soon, so Itachi would never need to use these weapons again so they would be only treated as deux ech machina but sadly he expanded manga forced by his editiors and getting more money to expand plot.

However I agree that Rikudou as God of Narutoverse, would be enough.



"Even attack of God loose it's meaning in presence of shield "- if you don't see motive behind that then I am sorry but you must have reading issue.

I mean hyping these weapons so much and calling Itachi's invincible was intruction of power level big jump, which would continue. Akatsuki leader aka Pain was supposed to be stronger then Itachi, same with Tobi being above Nagato. Also do not forget Kyuubi legendary power...

But the stronger characters that came up had literally nothing to do with Yata\Totsuka, those weapons only ever came up when Itachi was present, not even mentioned any time afterwards or before... So again, how did those weapons force the appearance of stronger characters? Or are you just using that phrase wrong? Because Itachi was dead, so there was no need to get stronger than those weapons. And if you start going on about surpassing Itachi, it's not the weapons that determine somebody's power, it's the person himself
 

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The Uchiha hypocrite story is 10 times worse hahahahaha...

The hypocrism of Uchiha is over 9000,activates a sharingan and kills millions of ppl...

A clan full of EMOS.
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Hypocrism? The word you were looking for is hypocrisssy.
 
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But the stronger characters that came up had literally nothing to do with Yata\Totsuka, those weapons only ever came up when Itachi was present, not even mentioned any time afterwards or before... So again, how did those weapons force the appearance of stronger characters? Or are you just using that phrase wrong? Because Itachi was dead, so there was no need to get stronger than those weapons. And if you start going on about surpassing Itachi, it's not the weapons that determine somebody's power, it's the person himself

Of course they are not connected to Totsuka or Yata in any form or shape. However these weapons just set the bar high so future characters needed to be around this level at least so reader won't be disappointed. It is just how Shonnen manga work..
 

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Of course they are not connected to Totsuka or Yata in any form or shape. However these weapons just set the bar high so future characters needed to be around this level at least so reader won't be disappointed. It is just how Shonnen manga work..

Not really, since anybody who isn't a troll knows that it was just a hyperbole... The only feats it had was deflecting paper bomb explosions...
That's a pretty high bar :rolleyes:
 

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Not really, since anybody who isn't a troll knows that it was just a hyperbole... The only feats it had was deflecting paper bomb explosions...
That's a pretty high bar :rolleyes:

Depends how you look at it. If it was hyperbole I agree, If not I keep my word.
 

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Depends how you look at it. If it was hyperbole I agree, If not I keep my word.

I'm of the school it's a hyperbole. I interpreted it as blocking any physical attack, but there's no way it could block something like whack a mole jutsu or Gaara reaching under a susano'o or a ftg when the opponent's body is marked.
 
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