Am I right in thinking EMS Sasuke would beat Itachi 9 times out of 10?

[Respect Uchiha Madara]

??? No it isnt at all.
Genjutsu was useless agfainst danzou, because he could break it easily... But still he got ****ed by such a puny illusion made by sasuke...

And Tsukuyomi of Itachi is on an whole other level than any genjutsu sasuke ever used.

Im just saying: Just because sasuke has MS/EMS he is not immune to genjutsus. Even during their fight, Itachi trapped him with his normal illusion. Just for a short time, but during this time sasuke was vulnerable. Even if he said he can see through itachis illusions. actually he needed a little time to realize the genjutsu.


AND THAT IS THE STRENGHT OF GENJUTSU!

Tsukuyomi can deceive sasuke. AND when they fought, it worked pretty well until the moment where the curseseal interfered. Its true that Tsukuyomi is not a matchwinner against sasuke but it could last long enough to trick him.

BASTA!

sasuke has itachi eye's he can see threw his genjutsu.

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[Koibito]

Only if its near-death Itachi

 

[Pizcobaby]

Fail thread gon fail.. Itachi has proven to have less chakra, but much more of a grasp on MS techniques, and as for the Kabuto take down, that had nothing to do with Edo, Itachi would have done it regardless of Edo or not... so.. fail comment gon fail..

Anyways, Sasuke is great and all but doesn't have the knowledge or full awareness that Itachi does. Itachi wins hands down, no question.

 

[fairytail10]

If ur so smart why u call other people stupid when ur using the same logic as them? What i cant stand is false superiority complex: U call others stupid when u use the same logic as them, u dont hear people out and deny the facts that prove u wrong, u refuse to see the bigger picture etc. Plus till now u never countered what others said just repeated ur opinions. Also by ur attitude it seems that u dont tolerate being proven wrong, such an attitude is not for a civilized debate. I dont know for other people but respect valid points and say sorry when i make a mistake. (See champ he insulted me after i said sorry for a mistake even though i was right in the end)

You are telling me I don't listen to people but you are doing the same thing but you don't want to see what you are doing wrong and I never say I was so smart or superior to anyone wrong or right is pass down to trow a person's point of view and I don't act like a crazy fanboy when I am defeated I accept defeat like a man.

 

[DivineIllusion]

sasuke has itachi eye's he can see threw his genjutsu.

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??? Which illusion?
Sasuke is not talking about genjutsu... "Genjustu" in this case must be a metaphor because Itachi didnt use Genjutsu against him, so sasuke cant know if he can see through it.
He is talking about itachis actions in the past... that are two different things...:sy:

 

[Respect Uchiha Madara]

??? Which illusion?
Sasuke is not talking about genjutsu... "Genjustu" in this case must be a metaphor because Itachi didnt use Genjutsu against him, so sasuke cant know if he can see through it.
He is talking about itachis actions in the past... that are two different things...:sy:

he said he has his eyes so he can see threw his genjutsu

they weren't fighting but sasuke has his eyes so he has itachi's genjutsu.

 

[Champ]

??? Which illusion?
Sasuke is not talking about genjutsu... "Genjustu" in this case must be a metaphor because Itachi didnt use Genjutsu against him, so sasuke cant know if he can see through it.
He is talking about itachis actions in the past... that are two different things...:sy:

Haha he actually pulled that out like it meant something

 

[DivineIllusion]

he said he has his eyes so he can see threw his genjutsu

where do u get that from...?
And I have a prrof that Itachis genjutsu works oN EMS sasuke

Remember the page where kabuto trapped them in an acustial genjutsu. Both of em broke it by capturing the other in an genjutsu... actually the genjutsu must work to break anotherone... otherwise its just senseless...

 

[DivineIllusion]

Haha he actually pulled that out like it meant something

It is referring to Itachis "reality" definition. Nearly everything Itachi said had a meaning... and sasuke just answers to Itachis statment.

Even tobi referred to that statement.
Something like:
"You didnt see through Itachis illusions at all" is what he said to sasuke when he told him the truth about itachi.

 

[DivineIllusion]

he said he has his eyes so he can see threw his genjutsu

they weren't fighting but sasuke has his eyes so he has itachi's genjutsu.

Sasuke has Itachis eyes... So he has Itachis suasnoo too?? with Yatamirror and Totsukasword? REALLY?


And it is not said that Itachis genjutsus wont work on himself. They would I guess.

 

[Anorien16]

You are telling me I don't listen to people but you are doing the same thing but you don't want to see what you are doing wrong and I never say I was so smart or superior to anyone wrong or right is pass down to trow a person's point of view and I don't act like a crazy fanboy when I am defeated I accept defeat like a man.

So state the points where Sasuke is undeniably greater in every respect. Many people replied and gave counter arguments but u simply called them haters and ignored most of their points and brought up irrelevant topics. That not a good example of listening.

So i say again point out the places where Sasuke is greater in every respect, then we shall debate it.

 

[DivineIllusion]

So state the points where Sasuke is undeniably greater in every respect.

Being an ashole

Using amaterasu.

More stamina.

Chidori

 

[Champ]

Sasuke has Itachis eyes... So he has Itachis suasnoo too?? with Yatamirror and Totsukasword? REALLY?


And it is not said that Itachis genjutsus wont work on himself. They would I guess.

We dont know that yet. You said Nearly everything Itachi does has a meaning, and he did bump sasuke's forehead before he left

 

[DivineIllusion]

We dont know that yet. You said Nearly everything Itachi does has a meaning, and he did bump sasuke's forehead before he left

Yeah he gave him the amaterasutrap which was supposed to kill Tobi...

Maybe there was more but nobody except kishi can know that.



Oh sorry I guess u meant this time... before the edo tensei vanished...
I dont know. Future will show it to us But until the point it it shown, sasuke CAN be trapped in genjutsu, like anyone else too. He just gets out easier than most other people...

 

[sWAy253]

you want to talking something being giving to someone look at kakashi he as something that doesn't belong to him in first when he facing an opponent he shows off the sharingan like is his but your are the one who needs to get off kakashi's **** bitch.

Your right, it was given to him, but he made it his own. He trained hard to achieve everything he has. He awaked the ms on his own without anybody to train him or teach him how. Where as Saskue had his given to him. You've got Saskues d!ck so far down your throat that it is sticking out your a$$.

 

[Anorien16]

Your right, it was given to him, but he made it his own. He trained hard to achieve everything he has. He awaked the ms on his own without anybody to train him or teach him how. Where as Saskue had his given to him. You've got Saskues d!ck so far down your throat that it is sticking out your a$$.

Itachi did set up the situation so that Sasuke cld awaken the MS but it was never given to him. It was EMS that was given or better taken without permission from a corpse that was probably not buried with proper respect, ie, grave robbing and stealing. Itachi never wanted Sasuke to have EMS freely as he planned Sasuke to be put in KA if Sasuke was found using Itachi's eyes.

 

[Champ]

you want to talking something being giving to someone look at kakashi he as something that doesn't belong to him in first when he facing an opponent he shows off the sharingan like is his but your are the one who needs to get off kakashi's **** bitch.

Yea Kakashi is weak I guess cuase Itachi, Tsukuyomi raped Kakashi he think the same will happen to Sasuke which it won't

 

[sWAy253]

Are u fking serious kakashi has only one thing that makes him a BAD@SS & thats sharangan d!ck & so what does it matter the uchiha switching eyes means nothing considering its their power all together & look at naruto without the 9 tails wtf is he a ***** thats weaker than konanohamaru

Even without the nine tails he would still be a badass considering the fact that he has powerfull chakara to begin with. So you fail. Kakashi with out the sharangan was already a badass before he got the sharangan d!ck or are we not reading the same manga? He was a genius in his class, or did you forget about that? You fail not once but twice!! :flaw::flaw::flaw:

 

[DivineIllusion]

Yea Kakashi is weak I guess cuase Itachi, Tsukuyomi raped Kakashi he think the same will happen to Sasuke which it won't

Hmmh. It wont rape sasuke. I just said it would affect him so that he is maybe paralized for a few little moments or something like that. It could give the deciding advantage Itachi needs to win.

But im still saying both have nearly equal chances of winning.

 

[sWAy253]

Itachi did set up the situation so that Sasuke cld awaken the MS but it was never given to him. It was EMS that was given or better taken without permission from a corpse that was probably not buried with proper respect, ie, grave robbing and stealing. Itachi never wanted Sasuke to have EMS freely as he planned Sasuke to be put in KA if Sasuke was found using Itachi's eyes.

Before Itachi passed out and died did he not give him the power to activate it when he saw Tobis sharangan? If I am wrong then correct me, but I don't think I am. With that being said...it was given to him.