Alright I admit it...

[Murasame]

S you are calling yourself an idiot? mmk. Stop creating up BS scenarios and only applying it to one side and hence acting like a troll.. cause that is quite annoying.



Yes because that is why Minato is taking on a God like Madara and Hashirama isn't right?

He went KCM for the barrier Hiruzen and Tobirama did not.. another portrayal of Minato being weaker in living form. On top of that the BM for his has only served as a means to teleport/connect people in a higher scale... that is about it.

Edo tensei is irrelvent to the people in the manga, because they are nothing but ninja. Only people who tend to fanboy and consider the Edos to be "legit characters" to put in top 10s or use the edo forms to defend the character itself are not applying Naruto logic. (and then you have people arguing about this crap. ).



Yes because I didn't know that, even though stating it countless times? .. and on the first day when Hashirama admit inferiority?

Stop with your portrayal bs lmao Funny thing is when it was used against you in that Itachi vs Kisame thread you argued against it Lol

@bold just like how you make scenarios of sakura soloing naruto and sasuke with poison? Don't be a hypocrite bro.

That wasn't meant to portray that Minato was weaker in living form lmao? Unless you believe old hiruzen>Minato XD It had to do with chakra if anything.

 

[KingHashirama]

Punk didn't mention anything about Hashirama.

Saying that the reason Kishimoto took off Minato's arm is because he is too OP and superior to Naruto and etc... So I simply posed a question if it is the same for Hashirama's case.

Do not see how even then is me saying Hashirama > Obito.. Are you right now still trying to continue this, even though i have told you that it was a question direct towards punk?

Stop with your portrayal bs lmao Funny thing is when it was used against you in that Itachi vs Kisame thread you argued against it Lol

@bold just like how you make scenarios of sakura soloing naruto and sasuke with poison? Don't be a hypocrite bro.

That wasn't meant to portray that Minato was weaker in living form lmao? Unless you believe old hiruzen>Minato XD It had to do with chakra if anything.

Funny how that "scenario" was to make you realize how fanboy and idiotic you sound, when you make scenarios in VS threads that only count for your character. But sadly you still failed to realize that and now act like a troll who takes things out of context and applies them to his own usage.

"old Hiruzen"and do you know why that Hiruzen is weaker? Because of the exhaustion caused by the old age..Take that exhaustion away and you have prime Hiruzen (Edo Form basically) there is no difference, unless it is stated again. The only problem then was he was getting exhausted.. not anymore. His body doesn't take any stress. Sooo yea.

Hiruzen and Tobirama > Minato.. established in Part 1. Only ones who try to make their characters into something they are not will argue that.

 

[Οdin]

He shits on Madara and Hashirama.

#u_u

 

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[Dantee]

Minato can't do anything to hashirama. Hashirama specializes in Bijuu stomping and can tank anything minato throws at him. Shinsuusenju would be GG.

Edo Madara stomps him too.

Now Naruto is debatable, I still go with Naruto tho.

Even though Hashirama specializes in bijuu stomping as you say it. He's a Jinchuriki and not only a jinchuriki of the nine tails which we have seen is a whole different ball game. Naruto couldn't beat BM Minato imo.

Yes because that is why Minato is taking on a God like Madara and Hashirama isn't right?

He went KCM for the barrier Hiruzen and Tobirama did not.. another portrayal of Minato being weaker in living form. On top of that the BM for his has only served as a means to teleport/connect people in a higher scale... that is about it.

Edo tensei is irrelvent to the people in the manga, because they are nothing but ninja. Only people who tend to fanboy and consider the Edos to be "legit characters" to put in top 10s or use the edo forms to defend the character itself are not applying Naruto logic. (and then you have people arguing about this crap. ).

Minato have all that in his edo tensie which dosent count when comparing two in 1 v 1 since they both need to be alive so Minato never had BM and all those extra powers BS while he is alive. So if we go 1v1 then Minato is the same as he was alive not his Edo tensie form etc...

Are you serious it's obvious why Minato isn't fighting Madara. In fact it's shameful I have to point this out to a HAshi fan. Madara is in love with the guy. He will only fight and acknowledge him/ no one else. There was no situation where Minato would be the one fight Madara instead of Hashi.

Minato went KCM because they needed to gather as much chakra as possible. Do you really believe Hiruzen in his old age as enough to be on par with Minato? LOLS. That wasn't a sign of weakness infact that was a sign of he was getting serious. Like I said potrayls are a weak side right now because his portrayl was only based on when he was alive.

BTW I know the difference between Edo Minato and alive Minato.

 

[Avinash012]

Completly agree man ...

Lol @ people that thinks Naruto surpassed Minato ...He has a long way to go....


I don't knw wether he can beat Hashirama or not (fanboy thinking) but Iam sure Budha is a shit against BM Minato....

 

[Bieber]

Saying that the reason Kishimoto took off Minato's arm is because he is too OP and superior to Naruto and etc... So I simply posed a question if it is the same for Hashirama's case.

Do not see how even then is me saying Hashirama > Obito.. Are you right now still trying to continue this, even though i have told you that it was a question direct towards punk?

You wouldn't have brought up Hashirama as you did, if you didn't believe that Hashirama stands a chance against Obito. The same as others bringing up that Minato has one arm because he is superior to others. That's why I said Obito obliterates Hashirama, meaning Hashirama has no chance against him.

 

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[KingHashirama]

Even though Hashirama specializes in bijuu stomping as you say it. He's a Jinchuriki and not only a jinchuriki of the nine tails which we have seen is a whole different ball game. Naruto couldn't beat BM Minato imo.





Are you serious it's obvious why Minato isn't fighting Madara. In fact it's shameful I have to point this out to a HAshi fan. Madara is in love with the guy. He will only fight and acknowledge him/ no one else. There was no situation where Minato would be the one fight Madara instead of Hashi.

Minato went KCM because they needed to gather as much chakra as possible. Do you really believe Hiruzen in his old age as enough to be on par with Minato? LOLS. That wasn't a sign of weakness infact that was a sign of he was getting serious. Like I said potrayls are a weak side right now because his portrayl was only based on when he was alive.

BTW I know the difference between Edo Minato and alive Minato.

Or because Edo Madara > Edo Minato...... god. Minato doesn't have any power to rival Madara's.....Kishimoto can create the situation if he wants to.. "Hashirama is weaker , so Minato takes over".. nothing wrong with that situation.. soo yea.

No they did not need to gather as much chakra as possible.. it had to do with the strength of their chakra. The first /Second/Third can crack roofs/walls with just their chakra pressure.. Minato is not on that level..

Hiruzen in his prime yes.. the only difference between Old Hiruzen and prime is the old age that causes strain on the body.. in Edo version that is gone.

You wouldn't have brought up Hashirama as you did, if you didn't believe that Hashirama stands a chance against Obito. The same as others bringing up that Minato has one arm because he is superior to others. That's why I said Obito obliterates Hashirama, meaning Hashirama has no chance against him.

It was to make him realize how futile that lil assumption he made was. So sorry no I do not believe Hashirama > Obito. And when I told you why brought it , you are gonna tell me the reason as to why i brought it up? . That is quite weird.

However are there people who can give Obito a fight? yes.. Naruto/Sasuke/Madara/Hashirama.

 

[Aya San]

I think Madara's PS can tank all BM Minato can throw at him, or simply absorbs it :hooray:

 

[Umari Senju]

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XD This^ alot of this gonig on in this thread right now for no real apparent reason XD

I think Madara's PS can tank all BM Minato can throw at him, or simply absorbs it :hooray:

Unless Minato pulls one of his famous troll jutsu and just Harishin's the entire PS and Madara somewhere. Heck we know he can just Harishin a Juubi TBB why not PS? XD

Other than that, I agree with you. Madara would stomp him. Aside having just PS he as the Rinnegan, Mokuton and an assorment of other jutsu. He could just overwhelm BM Minato with more jutsu then he can Harishin at once IMO. God these power scales are out of whack now.

 

[Dantee]

Or because Edo Madara > Edo Minato...... god. Minato doesn't have any power to rival Madara's.....Kishimoto can create the situation if he wants to.. "Hashirama is weaker , so Minato takes over".. nothing wrong with that situation.. soo yea.

No they did not need to gather as much chakra as possible.. it had to do with the strength of their chakra. The first /Second/Third can crack roofs/walls with just their chakra pressure.. Minato is not on that level..

Hiruzen in his prime yes.. the only difference between Old Hiruzen and prime is the old age that causes strain on the body.. in Edo version that is gone.

Edo abilities only go as far as the abilities you had when you were alive. How do you even know how much chakra Hiruzen has? The Third achieved no such feat and it's proposterous to say he has as much chakra as Hashi/Tobirama. BM Minato rivals Edo Madara quite well but this discussion wasn't about who's stronger am i right?

You're asking why Hashirama is fighting Madara while the rest are fighting Juubito when we already know who's stronger. What you're implying is that Hashi is the strongest because he is fighting Madara which would be the case until Minato gained BM mid fight imo. Of course Kishi can create any situation however the plot drives the story. HAshirama is the one dealing with Madara because of Madaras own obsession with Hashirama. They are also rivals just because Hashi is dealing with MAdara doesn't make BM Minato weaker. You're actually making no sense.

 

[Bieber]

It was to make him realize how futile that lil assumption he made was. So sorry no I do not believe Hashirama > Obito. And when I told you why brought it , you are gonna tell me the reason as to why i brought it up? . That is quite weird.

However are there people who can give Obito a fight? yes.. Naruto/Sasuke/Madara/Hashirama.

I'm not telling you why you brought it up, I said as you did bring it up.

Actually, none of them give Obito a fight. He takes them all with ease, especially Sasuke and Madara due to them not even having SM.

 

[Murasame]

Funny how that "scenario" was to make you realize how fanboy and idiotic you sound, when you make scenarios in VS threads that only count for your character. But sadly you still failed to realize that and now act like a troll who takes things out of context and applies them to his own usage.

"old Hiruzen"and do you know why that Hiruzen is weaker? Because of the exhaustion caused by the old age..Take that exhaustion away and you have prime Hiruzen (Edo Form basically) there is no difference, unless it is stated again. The only problem then was he was getting exhausted.. not anymore. His body doesn't take any stress. Sooo yea.

Hiruzen and Tobirama > Minato.. established in Part 1. Only ones who try to make their characters into something they are not will argue that.

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Will reply to the rest of your crap post later when I get back from school if this thread is still up by then.

 

[Umari Senju]

I'm not telling you why you brought it up, I said as you did bring it up.

Actually, none of them give Obito a fight. He takes them all with ease, especially Sasuke and Madara due to them not even having SM.

...Unless Madara's trump card is Hashi's Sage Mode. Heck why not? Madara has been borrowing Hashi's cells, jutsu...why not his Sage Mode as Well? XD

 

[Aya San]

@Bijuu Naruto: KingHashirama and his usual smart posts Lol

 

[Bogard]

Surprised you made this thread, but i totally agree. Reason why Kishi restricted him

 

[Murasame]

@Bijuu Naruto: KingHashirama and his usual smart posts Lol

Lol right? I'll admit he's one of the more funnier members on the base.. gotta thank him and his sig worthy posts

Surprised you made this thread, but i totally agree. Reason why Kishi restricted him

Lol Bogard you should take a look at KingHashirama's posts. XD XD XD

 

[Bogard]

Lol Bogard you should take a look at KingHashirama's posts. XD XD XD

I never take a look on his posts because i can already feel the amount of BS it can have in it a mile away Lol

 

[solo king]

Is bm minato really overpowered, or is kurama himself broken? Think about it