Alot of Plot explained...

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First of all Thanx to kishi for such an epic for me it was 5/5 what are your reviews on this chapter ?

This Manga explained alot of Plot Holes Like

Why Obito Joined Madara.
How Madara will perform Moon Eye's Plan.
Nagato was from Senju Lineage.
Gedou Mazou shell was sealed inside Moon.
How madara created artifical zetsu clones.
Rinnegan requirements are Uchiha and Senju both Blood Lines.
Black zetsu is actually Madara in a weaker state carrying his will.

I read it from some site but yeah this manga explained approximately majority of the plot holes in manga dont you agree?
Well to me many predicted these before.
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First of all Thanx to kishi for such an epic for me it was 5/5 what are your reviews on this chapter ?

This Manga explained alot of Plot Holes Like

Why Obito Joined Madara.
How Madara will perform Moon Eye's Plan.
Nagato was from Senju Lineage.
Gedou Mazou shell was sealed inside Moon.
How madara created artifical zetsu clones.
Rinnegan requirements are Uchiha and Senju both Blood Lines.
Black zetsu is actually Madara in a weaker state carrying his will.

I read it from some site but yeah this manga explained approximately majority of the plot holes in manga dont you agree?
Well to me many predicted these before.
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Nagato is still an uzumaki..... uzumaki and senju are closely related remember
 
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Well since they were explained, they were never plot-holes in the first place.
 

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"Plotholes" ...no. Information impatient people wanted to know, yes.
 

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This Manga explained alot of Plot Holes Like

Why Obito Joined Madara. We've known that for a few chapters now. As soon as Obito said it was because of the death of Rin we already knew his motivations. The last three chapters were just showing us what we've already known.

How Madara will perform Moon Eye's Plan. He didn't tell us anything about the moon's eye plan that we didn't already know EXCEPT that being attached to the Gedo Mazo seems to give Madara more control over the illusion than he would have normally.

Nagato was from Senju Lineage. We've known this. We knew Nagato was Uzumaki, and we knew that Uzumaki were related to the Senju. Nothing new.

Gedou Mazou shell was sealed inside Moon. Technically we've known this for a few hundred chapters already. All this chapter did is confirm that the old story about the great sage sealing the Juubi in the moon was true, and that the Gedo Mazo was first summoned by Madara from the moon, and later summoned by Nagato.

How madara created artifical zetsu clones. Again, we didn't really learn anything new. We've known that they were clones created from hashirama's cells. The only new details we have are that yin/yang techniques are used in their creation.

Rinnegan requirements are Uchiha and Senju both Blood Lines. Yes, we've learned that these are necessary but not sufficient requirements. Madara required Senju DNA to unlock it, but he didn't unlock the rinnegan immediately. Instead he had to wait many years until he was almost dead to get it. We don't know what other requirements he had to do between those times.

Black zetsu is actually Madara in a weaker state carrying his will. Not exactly, it's a normal white zetsu infused with Madara's will. But that's a small difference. Yes, this is the one thing we really learned this chapter, that black zetsu is Madara's will and was created before Madara died.

I don't think this chapter was super informative, it mostly confirmed a few things that we already knew and explained a few things that actually aren't very important for the plot (origin of black zetsu, more details about creating white zetsu clones, where Obito's knowledge and techniques come from, etc). Also, this chapter seemed to raise a few new questions that aren't obvious, such as what Madara's plan was before he met Obito. If Nagato didn't know the things that Obito told him, when was Madara planning to teach him those things? If Nagato wasn't planning to resurrect Madara before Obito talked to him, how was Madara intending to be resurrected? Or, if Madara didn't intend to die, how was he going to prevent Nagato from summoning the Gedo Mazo away, which would result in Madara dying? Honestly, what was the plan before Obito unexpectedly appeared in Madara's cave?
 

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Honestly, what was the plan before Obito unexpectedly appeared in Madara's cave?

Given that Madara did meet Obito I don't think we will ever know the answer to your question. Plus, not trying to be rude, but does it even matter what he was planning before he met Obito? I don't think so.

I do agree with your general point.
 

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Given that Madara did meet Obito I don't think we will ever know the answer to your question. Plus, not trying to be rude, but does it even matter what he was planning before he met Obito? I don't think so.

I do agree with your general point.

it kind of does matter ... he put the rinni in nagato before he met obito. so what was his plan b4
 

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Why Obito Joined Madara. We've known that for a few chapters now. As soon as Obito said it was because of the death of Rin we already knew his motivations. The last three chapters were just showing us what we've already known.

How Madara will perform Moon Eye's Plan. He didn't tell us anything about the moon's eye plan that we didn't already know EXCEPT that being attached to the Gedo Mazo seems to give Madara more control over the illusion than he would have normally.

Nagato was from Senju Lineage. We've known this. We knew Nagato was Uzumaki, and we knew that Uzumaki were related to the Senju. Nothing new.

Gedou Mazou shell was sealed inside Moon. Technically we've known this for a few hundred chapters already. All this chapter did is confirm that the old story about the great sage sealing the Juubi in the moon was true, and that the Gedo Mazo was first summoned by Madara from the moon, and later summoned by Nagato.

How madara created artifical zetsu clones. Again, we didn't really learn anything new. We've known that they were clones created from hashirama's cells. The only new details we have are that yin/yang techniques are used in their creation.

Rinnegan requirements are Uchiha and Senju both Blood Lines. Yes, we've learned that these are necessary but not sufficient requirements. Madara required Senju DNA to unlock it, but he didn't unlock the rinnegan immediately. Instead he had to wait many years until he was almost dead to get it. We don't know what other requirements he had to do between those times.

Black zetsu is actually Madara in a weaker state carrying his will. Not exactly, it's a normal white zetsu infused with Madara's will. But that's a small difference. Yes, this is the one thing we really learned this chapter, that black zetsu is Madara's will and was created before Madara died.

I don't think this chapter was super informative, it mostly confirmed a few things that we already knew and explained a few things that actually aren't very important for the plot (origin of black zetsu, more details about creating white zetsu clones, where Obito's knowledge and techniques come from, etc). Also, this chapter seemed to raise a few new questions that aren't obvious, such as what Madara's plan was before he met Obito. If Nagato didn't know the things that Obito told him, when was Madara planning to teach him those things? If Nagato wasn't planning to resurrect Madara before Obito talked to him, how was Madara intending to be resurrected? Or, if Madara didn't intend to die, how was he going to prevent Nagato from summoning the Gedo Mazo away, which would result in Madara dying? Honestly, what was the plan before Obito unexpectedly appeared in Madara's cave?

hmmm it seems it was a stone that it was summoned.
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Seems like kishi has been reading our predictions lol
 

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it kind of does matter ... he put the rinni in nagato before he met obito. so what was his plan b4


HE had Kakashi Rin and Obito followed during the Bridge Mission by Zetsu. This was hinted at i believe. I think he was planning to simple take an Uchihia of course doing so would mean getting one who has unlocked the eyes and is weak enough to take! No small feat when Madara is out of it and Zetsu is the only answer. He got lucky but i think he was waiting for a moment just like this.
 

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Without Obito, Madara would have used Zetsu. It would be harder but manageable I think
Not a big shocker it was Madara's yin chakra that created black zetsu but I did think it might have been Obito accidentally creating him
The best part was explaining how Nagato exactly had gotten Madara's rinnegan, which was he had simply transplanted his eyes into him as a child, like we thought but still, had to know
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no one is saying that you have to be from the Senju clan to have senju dna. Its perfectly logical to be an Uzumaki clan member and have a senju lineage
 
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Given that Madara did meet Obito I don't think we will ever know the answer to your question. Plus, not trying to be rude, but does it even matter what he was planning before he met Obito? I don't think so.

I do agree with your general point.

Sure, we may never know his exact plan, and maybe Madara did manipulate things to make sure Obito did appear in that cave so Obito was ALWAYS his plan. We don't know the details, really. Maybe we never will. However, these kinds of things go a long way towards our understanding of the character.

Without Obito, we have to believe that Madara ripped his own eyes out and surgically implanted them into some child. Sure the child was "special" in some way, but that's hardly enough for a complicated, decades-long world domination plan to succeed. Somewhere along the line Madara needed to communicate with Nagato, and make sure Nagato agreed to use Rinne Tensei to revive him.

Or, maybe Madara hadn't intended to die at all and just stay plugged into the statue. However, Nagato wouldn't have been able to collect the bijuu without summoning the statue (and thus killing Madara), so how would his plan have ever worked in that case?

Anyway, the big point is that this chapter sort of answered a few very small questions, but there are several other bigger plot-related issues still unresolved and this chapter only makes those worse.
 

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Um naruto is half uzumaki half Senju let me point to the time when madara said 'years have passed and the senju remain suprime as they showed the four kage stone heads. You see I figured something out Because thier last name isn't senju dosen't mean they are not senju clan members. The Senju clan was known as the clan with 1000 skills hence the reason konoha is made up of so much different clans an the subset(or subclans) make up the senju clan. Also I think only privilaged or the high members had thier last name as senju.

So maybe if naruto got some uchiha DNA he will get rennigan
 

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but still why kakashi killed rin?!

Most likely the next chapter buddy, or whenever the flashbacks stop and Obito and Kakashi converse again.

As to the OP, obviously NONE of these were plot holes. Considering there was a sufficient theory for just about all of them, there is no reason to call them plot holes. Again, all of them could be explained and were, thus none of them are or ever were plot holes.
 
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