all theses borrowed power ups dont make them strong!!! Real top 5 b4 shippuden.

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If you get down to the really Knitty Gritty stuff , then everyone and i mean everyone is on borrowed power from the Shinju since chakra was not present in any being in the past

that logic is too simple to say in order to avoid the truth.. im stateing that everyone is born with charkara and start at the same but as u grow u can obtain more power from trianing not getting a new ass pull its something u burned for like narutos mastery of sage art... but he still loses too thoes 3 in that form only way hed win is if he borrow som shit
 

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Do most people on here know what borrow means?



Sasuke and Madara are not gonna give Itachi and Izuna there eyes back.It's not borrowed.

If you're gonna say it's not theres then atleast say it's stolen and not borrowed.
 
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It took years of training... borrowed powers don't.... their is a HUGE difference... NO ONE gave Gai 8Gates his father died showing it too him and he figured it out and mastered it after years of intense training. EVERY shinobi can use this... like ALL jutsu it requires hard work...

It all doesnt matter, no amount of physical training would put human on that level.
The power of gates comes via massive chakra body enhancement, achived by braking chakra limiters.
But no man had chakra before kaguya got it and so gai has it due to hagoromo who shared it with everyone.
 

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Otherwise we could start saying that techniques are borrowed powers too.

Gai "borrowed" the Hachimon Tonkou no Jin
Naruto "borrowed" Kage Bunshin no Jutsu
Sasuke "borrowed" Chidori

Etc..


Ummm... Naruto did borrow kage bushin no jutsu from the scroll remember?
And Sasuke borrowed Chidori from Kakashi
 

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Do most people on here know what borrow means?



Sasuke and Madara are not gonna give Itachi and Izuna there eyes back.It's not borrowed.

If you're gonna say it's not theres then atleast say it's stolen and not borrowed.

This guy easily soloed this thread.
 

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It took years of training... borrowed powers don't.... their is a HUGE difference... NO ONE gave Gai 8Gates his father died showing it too him and he figured it out and mastered it after years of intense training. EVERY shinobi can use this... like ALL jutsu it requires hard work...

By that logic, if Sasuke trained for years to perfect his EMS usage, I suppose it would suddenly become not borrowed?

Chakra originates from the Juubi/Kaguya and no chakra = no Gates.

Everyone's a borrower in NV.
 

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It all doesnt matter, no amount of physical training would put human on that level.
The power of gates comes via massive chakra body enhancement, achived by braking chakra limiters.
But no man had chakra before kaguya got it and so gai has it due to hagoromo who shared it with everyone.

thats lame to say forget all that were it came from, were talikng about the person who has the best useage of that power and held as the best. you guys know what the hell i mean u just hate tew see sasuke nem get shunned
 

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they see i have a clear point now there going all the way to real hard facts to make the thread uncontroversial
 

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They All Haves Borrowed power from the Jubi

---On A Other Note - Gia 8 gates Solos the 1st Hokage - Easy difficulty
 

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thats lame to say forget all that were it came from, were talikng about the person who has the best useage of that power and held as the best. you guys know what the hell i mean u just hate tew see sasuke nem get shunned
Lol. 10 min izanagi trumps gates and thus would be far better and 100fold more efficient usage of that power called chakra.

And its not lame cuz you think so, gai just like every one else has chakra from juubi and is dependant on it.
They All Haves Borrowed power from the Jubi

---On A Other Note - Gia 8 gates Solos the 1st Hokage - Easy difficulty

You mistyped "draws"
 
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This guy easily soloed this thread.

lol People are still calling things that aren't borrowed as borrowed.It's like they skipped over my comment or something.

Noone borrowed chakra from the Shinju, they were born with it.They didn't take it to use for alittle while they give it back.
 

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I want to clarify something for slow people.
Borrowing power is taking it and giving it back. Ex: when madara implanted his eyes in nagato's eye sockets. He took them back via obito.
 

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lol People are still calling things that aren't borrowed as borrowed.It's like they skipped over my comment or something.

Noone borrowed chakra from the Shinju, they were born with it.They didn't take it to use for alittle while they give it back.

Yeah but than again I don't see how borrowing power is a bad thing? Like if your exchanging something to gain something. Does that not equal out?
 

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Naruto - born w/ Kuruma, he didn't ask to be born with him.

Kakashi - eye was a gift (who's gonna turn down a gift from a dying friend?!)

Nagato - eyes were implanted by Madara

You're making it seem like these people purposely went for these powers and stole them. Some didn't have a say.

As far as Sasuke, he rejected the eyes at first and Madara's brother, who he loved dearly insisted on him taking his eyes. Madara didn't know he'd get EMS. Now when it comes to him attaining the rinnegan I agree with you.

Kabuto is the only person on your list who purposely added to himself to attain more power.
 

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Naruto - born w/ Kuruma, he didn't ask to be born with him.

Kakashi - eye was a gift (who's gonna turn down a gift from a dying friend?!)

Nagato - eyes were implanted by Madara

You're making it seem like these people purposely went for these powers and stole them. Some didn't have a say.

As far as Sasuke, he rejected the eyes at first and Madara's brother, who he loved dearly insisted on him taking his eyes. Madara didn't know he'd get EMS. Now when it comes to him attaining the rinnegan I agree with you.

Kabuto is the only person on your list who purposely added to himself to attain more power.

Gonna rep this guy very good post. Bring sense into the senseless.
 

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How difficult is it to understand what borrowed actually means?? If you borrow, you give it back. Itachi ain't getting those eyes. Kurama/other beasts won't get the chakra back that they give naruto. Madara wontgive hashi his DNA back. Understand the difference. This whole borrowed shit argument is stupid. Oh my favorite trained for years, but got one upped because Kishi, in his own manga, placed emphasis on sharing. The point of the manga is to work together.

Can I borrow five bucks from a dead guy? No. He ain't getting it back. The point is, you don't "borrow" what you can't give back.
 

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Otherwise we could start saying that techniques are borrowed powers too.

Gai "borrowed" the Hachimon Tonkou no Jin
Naruto "borrowed" Kage Bunshin no Jutsu
Sasuke "borrowed" Chidori

Etc..

Yes , you have to master it with work.

No... TBs and so on are property of the original owner...

No , Naruto fought Kurama , got it's chakra , trained with Bee to master KCM

It's not borrowed power , it's using what he worked for. The same for the other beasts he defeated and tamed

If you go by that Itachi's weapons are more borrowed than anyone

They belonged to the original creator and he found them , not his power

See how it works.
 

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Otherwise we could start saying that techniques are borrowed powers too.

Gai "borrowed" the Hachimon Tonkou no Jin
Naruto "borrowed" Kage Bunshin no Jutsu
Sasuke "borrowed" Chidori

Etc..
Obito has hashi cells but without it his dms solo anyone without borrowed power he is strongest unlike maddy sasuke naruto kakashi OBITO NOT GET HASHI CELLS FOR POWER UP HE GET IT TO BE ALIVE WITHOUT HASHI CELLS HE IS OP N ALSO GAI 8 TH GATE NEVER COMPARE HIM WITH USELESS KAKASHI .EVEN NARUTO N SASUKE WILL GET DEFEATED IF THEY NOT GOT POWER UP BY 6 PATH
 
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