I read a thread about how obito can tko non-edo Madara because of a simple jutsu called kumai but everyone seems to be forgetting that Every inch of obitos power was given to him by Madara from his sharingan down to his rinni and gedo statues obito would not be the beast that he is now without this man (as far as I know) so Im pretty sure an EMS/rinni Madara would overkill (a Madara revived)obito, also their is no tech that obito has that Madara hasn't probably already thought a counter for so funk kumai
all of obitos abilities was givin to him by Madara
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Izuna, Hashirama and Kabuto are the reason Madara has anything aside from Katon, Could they beat him because they are the reason for his power??? no that logic is stupid as far as im concerned The Manga has shown Madara has crap speed and no 10 minute attack to get passed Kamui, any talk of Madara having counters is nothing but speculation U_U
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Wat the heck are u talking about lol obito first off isn't great he's gud. Only time he's great is wen his technique can't b understood. But wen it is he's useless. Especially if his opponent is kakashi. Now for ur comment. Obito power is his own. Its his sharigan not madaras its his technique. Only thing that he got from madara is an amazing body that's durable and the rinneigan and with that he still doesn't fully utilize its powers. He still stick to his own stuff.
Huh? Rinnegan was originally Madara's, that is true. However, Madara passed on the ownership to Nagato and Obito took it from a deceased Nagato. Therefore the Rinnegan is also his as well as Nagato and Madara's. The Mangekyo Sharingan - Madara in no way, shape or form helped Obito acquire. He did it himself by seeing Rin die in front of him. The Zetsu Body and the Hashirama DNA was essentially a gift. If I buy you something for Christmas or your birthday, it is now yours. I may have made it or bought it but I gave it to you so it's yours, not mine. Same case applies to Obito.
Obito would defeat Edo Madara High-Diff. Obito has the Edo Jinchuriki and Kamui as well as the Rinnegan Techniques and Mokuton. Madara has Susano'o and the Rinnegan as well as Mokuton. I will restrict Gedo Mazo as both can summon and use it and that wouldn't make much sense. Madara knowing Obito would instantly go all out despite his habits of slowly making his way up to stronger techniques. Susano'o' will be his first step and fight Obito who will barrage the fellow with Bijudama. He will occasionally brawl Madara out with Mokuton etc. However the battle will be long and destructive and will simply end with Obito using Kamui on Madara.
Madara has no known counter to the jutsu and will essentially be stuck in the dimension forever. Obito can send an Edo Jinchiriki there and blow him up as well. Obito wins with high diff. and not all if any were given to him by Madara. Madara passed ownership so it is no longer his.
Obito would defeat Edo Madara High-Diff. Obito has the Edo Jinchuriki and Kamui as well as the Rinnegan Techniques and Mokuton. Madara has Susano'o and the Rinnegan as well as Mokuton. I will restrict Gedo Mazo as both can summon and use it and that wouldn't make much sense. Madara knowing Obito would instantly go all out despite his habits of slowly making his way up to stronger techniques. Susano'o' will be his first step and fight Obito who will barrage the fellow with Bijudama. He will occasionally brawl Madara out with Mokuton etc. However the battle will be long and destructive and will simply end with Obito using Kamui on Madara.
Madara has no known counter to the jutsu and will essentially be stuck in the dimension forever. Obito can send an Edo Jinchiriki there and blow him up as well. Obito wins with high diff. and not all if any were given to him by Madara. Madara passed ownership so it is no longer his.
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Dude really? Obito can beat the strongest uchiha in the series? The one that fought wit the first (the strongest ninja ) for days non stop? U sound retarded kill ur self slowly for ur nonsense
Everybody pay freaking attention when I say Madara is the reason why obito is able to use his abilities it's because if Im not mistaken obito was on a 1St class flight to ninja heaven if not for who... um Madara duh.. Giving him a chance to fully develop his skills (I believe Madara knew obito would obtain MS by seeing his comrades fall that's why he said he knew he would return) and obtain MS . Obito obviously figured out how to use it him self but ya just saying Madara is obitos second wind