Alive Madara vs. Pain Arc Naruto and Mangekyo Sharingan Sasuke

[Kushina san]

Man with only 3t he beats this SM Naruto without that much trouble. He'd have a hardest time against the summons than against him.

But in this thread Naruto is not alone. If even Sasuke has 3t, then Madara wins.

 

[EZQ]

But in this thread Naruto is not alone. If even Sasuke has 3t, then Madara wins.

lol i forgot this was 2v1. Yeah he gets gangbanged

 

[NarutoX28]

Naruto could possibly win too.

No he can't. He gets blitzed like he did in the manga, except much worse as this is the Pain Arc incarnation of SM Naruto.

He has access to the 3 boss toads, as well as Ma and Pa.

Genjutsu GG.

Only way I see Ma and Pa being useful is through Frog Song which takes quite some time to prep.

He can fight Madara along with the 3 toads, while Ma and Pa prepare the genjutsu. Then one shot Madara.

Genjutsu GG, or he slaps away the Boss Toads one by one.

 

[Lord Tywin]

No he can't. He gets blitzed like he did in the manga, except much worse as this is the Pain Arc incarnation of SM Naruto.

With a distance of 20M? Lol not to mention Naruto can actually block Madara's strike but only the force pushed him back.

Genjutsu GG.

Only way I see Ma and Pa being useful is through Frog Song which takes quite some time to prep.

Because other toads can't get the genjutsu stricken ally out of it. Ma and Pa easily have the time to prepare genjutsu since Naruto's limit in SM is longer due to clones, and Madara has no way of putting the toads out except katon, which is countered by Water bullets.

Genjutsu GG, or he slaps away the Boss Toads one by one.

Addressed above. Madara can't kill the toads with anything other than katon.

 

[NarutoX28]

With a distance of 20M? Lol not to mention Naruto can actually block Madara's strike but only the force pushed him back.

It seemed the distance was 20m when Madara blitzed SM Naruto.

This is Pain Arc SM Naruto which even then, War Arc SM Naruto was disoriented for multiple panels, long enough to dashed towards Hashirama, absorb his Senjutsu, clash with EMS Sasuke, and have a conversation which all happened before SM Naruto even reached him.

Because other toads can't get the genjutsu stricken ally out of it. Ma and Pa easily have the time to prepare genjutsu since Naruto's limit in SM is longer due to clones, and Madara has no way of putting the toads out except katon, which is countered by Water bullets.

That's not happening when Madara has complete control on the Toads, so he can prevent anyone from breaking the Toads out of the Genjutsu.

I'll admit that Frog Song has the potential to land on Madara in a location like this, but it's going to be incredibly difficult when Frog Song used without a strategy likely won't work and any potential feints Naruto uses can be anticipated by Madara.

Addressed above. Madara can't kill the toads with anything other than katon.

Refuted.

Either way, he still smacks the Toads and scorches them with a Juubi Sized Katon.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Madara is not winning against Naruto with Ma and Pa. Shima herself, with Bunta's help, can produce Juubi size Katon. So you can throw that Juubi Katon argument out the window. In fact, it would over power Madara's and kill him once Fukasaku and Naruto add Wind Nature fuel with their combination attack.

Madara gets raped.


And please lets not give Rinne Madara feats to his old self. I thought that was made clear that his powers blossom unlocking Six Sage's power. That would include his physical stats too.

 

[KidGamer65]

I'm coming under the assumption that they think he can't evade FRS, Susano'o Arrow, and Amaterasu.

Except Kirin and the inability to get past Susanoo is why he dies.

 

[NarutoX28]

Except Kirin and the inability to get past Susanoo is why he dies.

The only good way he can do that is by using Amaterasu though using it along with Susano'o puts a lot of strain on his eyes.

 

[KidGamer65]

The only good way he can do that is by using Amaterasu though using it along with Susano'o puts a lot of strain on his eyes.

Using it with V2 and up put strain on his eyes. Madara can't even damage Ribcage. :lol Besides, if he has V4 Susanoo here he can use Enton Magatama making the spreading of Amaterasu much easier than it would be were he to use the Amaterasu tech itself.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Naruto and sasuke win

 

[NarutoX28]

Using it with V2 and up put strain on his eyes. Madara can't even damage Ribcage. :lol Besides, if he has V4 Susanoo here he can use Enton Magatama making the spreading of Amaterasu much easier than it would be were he to use the Amaterasu tech itself.

Well, you got me there. :/

 

[Lord Tywin]

It seemed the distance was 20m when Madara blitzed SM Naruto.

No it wasn't anywhere near 20M

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This is Pain Arc SM Naruto which even then, War Arc SM Naruto was disoriented for multiple panels, long enough to dashed towards Hashirama, absorb his Senjutsu, clash with EMS Sasuke, and have a conversation which all happened before SM Naruto even reached him.

Still no proof that Madara can blitz this Naruto from 20M away.
And Naruto didn't immediately start running towards Madara after he was struck. After he looked up he was Sasuke attacking Madara

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Only to run towards Madara after Madara's arm was pierced. Then Naruto stopped and listened to Madara's conversation

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Anyhow, this doesn't prove in anyway that Madara can blitz Naruto from 20M away.

That's not happening when Madara has complete control on the Toads, so he can prevent anyone from breaking the Toads out of the Genjutsu.

Which Naruto can de-summon the struck toad. After one toad is hit the others would know even more to not look in the eyes. I don't even see the toads even looking at the eyes of a sharingan user.

I'll admit that Frog Song has the potential to land on Madara in a location like this, but it's going to be incredibly difficult when Frog Song used without a strategy likely won't work and any potential feints Naruto uses can be anticipated by Madara.

It can happen given Madara having no knowledge on what two little toads can do. And how Madara has to constantly fighting Naruto and 2-3 other toads.

Refuted.

Either way, he still smacks the Toads and scorches them with a Juubi Sized Katon.

I've still yet to see Madara ability to "smack" giant ass toads around.

 

[Unorthodox]

kurama changes nothing amaterasu lights it up.

 

[EZQ]

kurama changes nothing amaterasu lights it up.

Didn't think of that. It's actually a good point.