[VS] (AkatsukiChurch) Why I believe Sasori > Minato

Wins or not?

  • Yes, Sasori is underrated

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    Votes: 9 56.3%
  • Not sure...

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genii96

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I am pretty sure that iron sand drizzle would kill any toad,their skins arent exactly tough to piercing attacks.

Magnetism could tender ftg kunais useless.

Poison cloud could kill minato

however,we need more info on minato to make a good analysis
 

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I am pretty sure that iron sand drizzle would kill any toad,their skins arent exactly tough to piercing attacks.

Magnetism could tender ftg kunais useless.

Poison cloud could kill minato

however,we need more info on minato to make a good analysis
 

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I am pretty sure that iron sand drizzle would kill any toad,their skins arent exactly tough to piercing attacks.

Magnetism could tender ftg kunais useless.

Poison cloud could kill minato

however,we need more info on minato to make a good analysis
That's true, but for now Sasori > Minato.
 

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It doesn't need to be big althought it is fair in size, it could pierce Gamabunta and Sasori could fly out of Gamabunta's and Minato's reach. Also, with the 3rd Kazekage's magnetism, Sasori could take away Minato's kunai and then melt them with his flame throwers.

My point isn't saying that it can't pierce Gamabunta. What I'm saying is that it probably can't make a deep enough wound to kill him. In any case, Sakura countered the cube and triangle by knocking them away, so I'd assume Gamabunta could do this as well. Sakura managed to evade Some of Sasori's attacks in the fight, so evading wouldn't be much of a challenge for Minato.

Though reach does counter Minato, I think your forgetting about Gamabunta's liquid bullets. And while the melting kunai is a good point, Minato could teleport to his kunai and teleport to another one that he threw into the air previously.
 

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Lets be honest... some people can beat minato? really
lemme guess....
a sharingan user?
a jinkurichi?
Rinnegan user?
So6P?

Sorry about swearing(Idk why the added stars to naruto universe although..?) but I didn't say minato flat out loses.... based on what we know I gave a simple analysis on pg 1 about how the battle would be... Often people just list Moves and jutsu and say "this beats this" ..some people say minato is smarter than sasori....that isn't proven either...Sasori might just be smarter for all we know. Actually sasori has quite allot to go from based on his actions but they go underminded...

When minato fight's from what we seen in the manga he preps his FTG by throwing kunai, -- without intel that might back fire against sasori who will pick up its viability and manipulate the kunai... if you examine Ay vs minato fight... Ay was planning on checkmating minato by blitzing the kunai he that minato was going to teleport to... Which backfired because minato tagged Bee.... And with all that going on Bee was able to anticipate minatos movements...

Now with that being said... there's obviously drawbacks in abusing FTG. Even If Minato tags the whole arena or feild... 1000 scattered senbon would be Virtually unavoidable...
^Dont get me wrong this is not proof that minato would lose to sasori... but what it does is cripples minatos basic approach.. at least the one we were Introduced too.

Minato would have to play this out very intellegently (dont forget that chakra limits are also relevant so just doing a whole bunch of moves isn't realistic guys)...

All of sasoris weapons are imbued with Poison..summoning jutsu would not be too smart... unless you like sasuke and want to kill off your animals...

All I'm saying is that all known elements of Minato's approach has a way to get countered requiring less effort from Sasori..

The thing is, everyone always just says FTG. We've seen the guy use FTG 4 times and all 4 were critical moments.

1) FTG to save kakashi? That was very crucial, or kakashi would get hurt. It just so happened that he decided to end the fodder quickly with a second ftg.
2) FTG vs 50 Men? That is very crucial. Blitzing between 50 people to reduce the numbers as fast as possible is effective.
3) FTG vs A + B? They were the 2 fastest shinobi out. Minato's base speed wouldn't be able to dodge A(let's be honest, A had enhanced speed.. So it's not like his base speed is flat out ridiculous).
4) FTG during kyuubi invasion? He had an S/t user trying to 1 shot him. Had to go between saving his son, his wife, fighting a masked man, fighting the kyuubi all in a short time span. And, they were all in different places.

What am i saying? The guy isn't all ftg. Kishi is most likely intentionally keeping his showing to a minimum to surprise us. Fact is he most possibly has SM (Both his and jiraiya's Image were shown next to SM naruto when fukasaku was talking about him.). Fact is, he has a ton more jutsu to display.

Now, I get what you're saying with intelligence and what not, but We have literally never seen anything from minato. Infact, minato's showing is just about as much as tobirama TBH. The only difference is that we've gotten more story about minato, but we've only been shown his signature move in most cases. Up till minato vs obito, we didn't even know about S/T barrier, RDS.
The thing is, minato had a flee on site order. Why would he have that? Think about it. Like really think about it. Ay was the fastest person back then. He could blitz people before they could react, and he was extremely strong. But, yet, minato had the flee on site order? Not ay, not bee, not oonoki, not anyone else. Minato was even chosen over orochimaru. Hiruzen loved orochimaru, called him a prodigy of his time and we know orochimaru was very strong. But, yet, hiruzen overlooked a prodigy for this guy? Ftg can't be it. From what we've seen, he has some of the best, if not the best, reflexes in the manga. His base speed is high, and he has FTG to boost that.

We've been told he has barrier techniques and we've seen 2 barrier techniques so far. S/t Barrier and jiraiya's sensor barrier. We know jiraiya actually got some moves off of minato (eg rasengan), so it's not unlikely that he also got barrier jutsu off of him. In the new naruto movie (Made by kishimoto), we see that minato even taught jiraiya a sealing technique(the S/t-Chain-something else sealing jutsu that he said only he and jiraiya could unlock).
Minato has an entire hidden arsenal that could potentially screw sasori over heavily. He is one of the strongest characters who have been displayed which had a limited showing.

Now, back to the topic. With his current showing he can already make this a high diff win for sasori. I disagree that summoning toads would be a bad move however. That is a very good strategy as gamabunta does have long ranged jutsu (water bullet, oil, etc) which would be able to destroy sasori's puppets from a far. The fact is, only kazekage summons can even stand up to gamabunta. Minato doesn't need to really through kunai. He can always do things manually and try to tag sasori. Slap a tag on bunta just in case and then head in to fight sasori. If a situation arises where he's about to be hit, he can FTG to safety(he was able to react to A).

I would like to add one last thing, minato would most likely only lose this fight if he has no intel on sasori's poison. Because, if he doesn't know about it, there's a chance he'd slack off a bit and suffer a minor cut. And, we know minor cuts can be fatal with sasori.

EDIT: to your last point, I agree. I like how you mention 'all his known abilities', but the post i responded to made it sound like minato was some weakling he gets 1shot by all.
1 last thing, I don't know who can beat minato... It doesn't necessarily have to be an uchiha... Could be anyone, but i'd have to see his showing first. Everyone wanks off obito because of his S/t but, when it comes to minato, his S/t is apparently some E class jutsu.
 
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I am pretty sure that iron sand drizzle would kill any toad,their skins arent exactly tough to piercing attacks.

Magnetism could tender ftg kunais useless.

Poison cloud could kill minato

however,we need more info on minato to make a good analysis

you need to stop talking about sand drizzle... It's never been used as a killing move. It's only ever been used as a distraction to attack the opponent from below. You make the jutsu look better than it actually is. It's actually never hurt anyone; Gaara used sand drizzle to distract both kimimaro and his dad, then he used ground sand to trap them into a sand coffin.
 

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Don't debate on this anymore, I'm making a new thread about this with much more detail so you are all more than welcome to come and debate there.
 

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Sasori knows nothing about minato and minato knows nothing about sasori .. so he would clearly see how his ftg works .. and minato would hit NOT his heart he would most likely aim somewhere else especially if he still has the cloak ... then sasori would figure out and then proceed to Use His KKG To counter FTG
 

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Sasori knows nothing about minato and minato knows nothing about sasori .. so he would clearly see how his ftg works .. and minato would hit NOT his heart he would most likely aim somewhere else especially if he still has the cloak ... then sasori would figure out and then proceed to Use His KKG To counter FTG

thing is, sasori would inevitably have to resort to use human puppet. he'd lose a ton of his puppets just from toad attacks.

Don't debate on this anymore, I'm making a new thread about this with much more detail so you are all more than welcome to come and debate there.
Who do you think you are telling me what to do!?!!? Do you think you're the OP? Pffft! lol XD
 

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Are you joking?

Kakashi invented Raikiri/Chidori 17 years before the start of the series.

Minato died 12 years before.

Not only did Sasori never see Minato, he has no intel on him since he never fought him.

And how would Sasori know of Minato? He left Suna for Akatsuki. Even if Suna knew of Minato, Sasori wouldn't.

Agreed with this.
+ We haven't seen Minato's full arsenal , we only saw a few jutsus.
But i'll go with Minato.
 

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That's true, but for now Sasori > Minato.

This is a useless thread.
How can sasori be "Sasori > Minato" If Sakura already "Sakura'd > Sasori" eh?
Minato > Sasori, We don't even have to go into details.
 

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thing is, sasori would inevitably have to resort to use human puppet. he'd lose a ton of his puppets just from toad attacks.


Who do you think you are telling me what to do!?!!? Do you think you're the OP? Pffft! lol XD
No, I am your king!! :whip: XD
 

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This is a useless thread.
How can sasori be "Sasori > Minato" If Sakura already "Sakura'd > Sasori" eh?
Minato > Sasori, We don't even have to go into details.
This is an useless comment and I'm not taking you seriously after saying Sakura > Sasori. Bye.
 

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This is a useless thread.
How can sasori be "Sasori > Minato" If Sakura already "Sakura'd > Sasori" eh?
Minato > Sasori, We don't even have to go into details.

Comments like these are why your other account got banned
 

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What the **** is wrong with some of the guys here .

Firstly it was Gaara and now Sasaori can beat Minato in battle . Anyone with a shred of common sense would realise how strong Minato is relative to Sasori going by feats , hype & portrayal of character .

Matchups matter only when Shinobi are close in powerlevel but not in cases like this one where a character is easily a tier higher if not more.
 
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