Akatsuki with biggest chakra/stamina

[LuckyMan]

You do realize that the Databook stats aren't meant to be compared? It's the characters growth in a fixed field, otherwise we could compare Tsunade's and Base Gai's physical strength. Both get a five, but one of Gai's greatest feats in base is punching a man through a wall whereas Tsunade crushed a castle casually.

Neither Sasori nor Hidan have displayed feats that put hem to the point where they could make use of as many S rank and chakra tasking techniques as Itachi had when ill. Simple as that.

Sasori could control 300 puppets at once and utilize Third Kazekages keke genkai no difficulty so what are you smoking :|

Hidan never gets tired, therefore he is automatically above Itachi.....

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Sasori could control 300 puppets at once and utilize Third Kazekages keke genkai no difficulty so what are you smoking :|

Hidan never gets tired, therefore he is automatically above Itachi.....

Hidan never does anything but run around? I mean, if Itachi didn't use anything but his three tomoe or fire ball techniques I'd wager he would last a while.

He poorly manipulated a large portion of puppets; Which, what information do we have it even requires much chakra to do so? I'll admit three hundred is tasking. But to say it's on the level of what Itachi has displayed is insane, mang.

 

[Sound]

1.Obito/Nagato
2.Nagato/Obito
3.Kisame
4.Orochimaru
5.Sasori
6.Deidara
7.Kakuzu
8.Itachi/Konan

 

[LuckyMan]

Hidan never does anything but run around? I mean, if Itachi didn't use anything but his three tomoe or fire ball techniques I'd wager he would last a while.

He poorly manipulated a large portion of puppets; Which, what information do we have it even requires much chakra to do so? I'll admit three hundred is tasking. But to say it's on the level of what Itachi has displayed is insane, mang.

So by your logic even if Lee has a 1 in Genjutsu and Orochimaru has a 5, because we never seen Orochimaru use any genjutsu we can assume Lee could possibly be better at it?

 

[VongolaX]

Obito stated that one Rinnegan used so much Chakra for him, and double of them was impossible to implant them. Nagato could handle both, because his Chakra is far greater than Obito's.

OT: Nagato and Kisame are the only accurate rank. The rest is nonsense.

There's a difference between the rinnegans power being too much chakra for him to handle, in comparison to chakra taking too much chakra from you.

Nagato fights a couple leaf shinobi's, blows up the village, and fights sm naruto with no chakra left.

Obito fights bee/naruto then later on kakashi gai, fights the whole shinobi world for a whole day, fights kaguya for a few minutes, and died with enough chakra to give to kakashi his Perfect Susanoo.

Obito's chakra>>> Nagato by so much that it's not even funny.

Direct Hashirama Ashura incarnation flesh/tissue>>>>>senju lineage

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

So by your logic even if Lee has a 1 in Genjutsu and Orochimaru has a 5, because we never seen Orochimaru use any genjutsu we can assume Lee could possibly be better at it?

The difference being that Lee has no talent in this field whereas Orochimaru has displayed remarkable resistance to Genjutsu. What I am saying is that the stats are all relative to the character itself, and how big a gap there is in one five to another shows when comparing genjutsu skills from Asuma's baby mama and Itachi. To even consider them in the same tier of Genjutsu is insane, yet both score a five.

Eh, sorry Invisible man but I really have little intention of continuing this argument. I've stated my beliefs and backed it up, feel free to disagree.

 

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Of course it is.....

You said Nagato said Kisame had the most chakra.

Nagato said that kisame had the most chakra in akatsuki

Where in that scan does that say? I even told you prior to that he merely stated Kisame's chakra to be unusually large for their standards. Also this was all said before feats of the Six Paths and Nagato which over shadows Kisame's chakra capacities.​

 

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Kisame and Nagato...

 

[LuckyMan]

The difference being that Lee has no talent in this field whereas Orochimaru has displayed remarkable resistance to Genjutsu. What I am saying is that the stats are all relative to the character itself, and how big a gap there is in one five to another shows when comparing genjutsu skills from Asuma's baby mama and Itachi. To even consider them in the same tier of Genjutsu is insane, yet both score a five.

The absence of Kurenai using Genjutsu is not evidence that she isn't in the same tier as him.

Any who, I'm not about to get into a full fledged debate on this dumb issue. Its obvious Itachi has less chakra than Hidan and Sasori. Manga shows and Databook shows. Don't be upset with me, blame Kishi. U_U

 

[VongolaX]

You said Nagato said Kisame had the most chakra.
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Yes, he just did in that scan...

Where in that scan does that say? I even told you prior to that he merely stated Kisame's chakra to be unusually large for their standards. Also this was all said before feats of the Six Paths and Nagato which over shadows Kisame's chakra capacities.

That's not what the scan stated...

"'Indeed...After All, That justu is suitable for you, as you have a large amount of chakra for use 'Akatsuki,' kisame..'"

Nagato is pain, so regardless of the time Pain said that Kisame is the largest.

Nagato knows when he was at the peak, so for him to make that comment means something.

Also, largest=/=most powerful in akatsuki.

Pain's chakra is more powerful than Kisame, not larger

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

There's a difference between the rinnegans power being too much chakra for him to handle, in comparison to chakra taking too much chakra from you.

Nagato fights a couple leaf shinobi's, blows up the village, and fights sm naruto with no chakra left.

Obito fights bee/naruto then later on kakashi gai, fights the whole shinobi world for a whole day, fights kaguya for a few minutes, and died with enough chakra to give to kakashi his Perfect Susanoo.

Obito's chakra>>> Nagato by so much that it's not even funny.

Direct Hashirama Ashura incarnation flesh/tissue>>>>>senju lineage

You're overlooking what Obito clearly said and that was a single Rinnegan was already too much and implanting both would've been impossible for him [

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]. "Even just one left eye...I had lost to its overwhelming chakra and ability". Yet Nagato was able to handle and maintain dual Rinnegan for over 30 years.

Not to mention Nagato was prepared to make an even bigger CT on his deathbed [

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] And I don't need to mention him still having enough chakra to revive all the Leaf villagers.

 

[Raijingan]

You're overlooking what Obito clearly said and that was a single Rinnegan was already too much and implanting both would've been impossible for him [

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]. "Even just one left eye...I had lost to its overwhelming chakra and ability". Yet Nagato was able to handle and maintain dual Rinnegan for over 30 years.

Not to mention Nagato was prepared to make an even bigger CT on his deathbed [

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] And I don't need to mention him still having enough chakra to revive all the Leaf villagers.

And by just using Wifi chakra to power 6 bodies must have cost a ton of chakra. There must be chakra losses in the air

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

"'Indeed...After All, That justu is suitable for you, as you have a large amount of chakra for use 'Akatsuki,' kisame..'"

Nagato is pain, so regardless of the time Pain said that Kisame is the largest.

Nagato knows when he was at the peak, so for him to make that comment means something.

Also, largest=/=most powerful in akatsuki.

Pain's chakra is more powerful than Kisame, not larger

Yes Nagato is Pain but how many members of Akatsuki did actually know of Nagato's existence apart from Konan, Obito and Itachi? For all we know that statement could've only implied to Deva Path as he was the visual figure head in front of the other members.

Regardless, feats shown from the Six Paths and Nagato are much more impressive and shown to be overwhelmingly chakra taxing.

 

[VongolaX]

You're overlooking what Obito clearly said and that was a single Rinnegan was already too much and implanting both would've been impossible for him [

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]. "Even just one left eye...I had lost to its overwhelming chakra and ability". Yet Nagato was able to handle and maintain dual Rinnegan for over 30 years.

Not to mention Nagato was prepared to make an even bigger CT on his deathbed [

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] And I don't need to mention him still having enough chakra to revive all the Leaf villagers.

You need to keep reading and find a better translation:

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He said that he almost lost himself, not lose control..

On top of that he stated, "I'm not even the original owner And I can still do all this."

meaning that the rinnegan wasn't taking too much, the rinnegan was giving him too much power.

Nagato said he needed to make ct bigger to hold the kyuubi, otherwise he will escape.

Nagato couldn't and that's why he said this:

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[VongolaX]

apart from Konan, Obito and Itachi? For all we know that statement could've only implied to Deva Path as he was the visual figure head in front of the other members.

What?

Nagato via Deva path stated that Kisame is larger....period

Regardless, feats shown from the Six Paths and Nagato are much more impressive and shown to be overwhelmingly chakra taxing.

So what?

That doesn't change the fact that kisame has more, both of them were neither using any form of comparison on six path justu for that matter.

 

[shelke]

Obito is at the top? What the hell are Obito fans smoking? Let's drop the coke and get real. Obito's reserves are no where near Kisame, let alone Nagato. The latter is way out of his league. Itachi is far too low, as being an Uchiha his Chakra reserves should be high, but his disease ridden body didn't allow him the luxury of good stamina.

 

[VongolaX]

Obito is at the top? What the hell are Obito fans smoking? Let's drop the coke and get real. Obito's reserves are no where near Kisame, let alone Nagato. The latter is way out of his league. Itachi is far too low, as being an Uchiha his Chakra reserves should be high, but his disease ridden body didn't allow him the luxury of good stamina.

Calm down, it was Hashirama's chakra that made obito have a great amount of chakra.

Name one akatsuki that fought for a whole day...

Neither kisame or Nagato has shown such feat, Obito was competeing with inlimited chakra edo tesnei

 

[shelke]

Calm down, it was Hashirama's chakra that made obito have a great amount of chakra.

Name one akatsuki that fought for a whole day...

Neither kisame or Nagato has shown such feat, Obito was competeing with inlimited chakra edo tesnei

I am perfectly calm. I have no idea what you are talking about. Obito may have had some boost from his body, but other than that it seems far fetched as he was controlling the Mezo and letting it do his bidding. The Edo Tensai was never his game.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

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He said that he almost lost himself, not lose control..

On top of that he stated, "I'm not even the original owner And I can still do all this."

meaning that the rinnegan wasn't taking too much, the rinnegan was giving him too much power.

Nagato said he needed to make ct bigger to hold the kyuubi, otherwise he will escape.

Nagato couldn't and that's why he said this:

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I like how you disregarded the top and middle left panel where both translation basically states the same.

Scan I provided :"I also wasn't able to transplant the Rinnegan into both my eyes...Even just this one left eye...I had lost to its overwhelming chakra and ability"

Scan you provided: "Not even I could implant Rinnegan in both of my eyes...Even with just this left one...its chakra and eye power was so strong that I almost lost myself"

Obito simply couldn't handle dual Rinnegan while Nagato managed it for over 30 years. This alone should be more than enough to suggest who's got the strong and largest chakra.

Nagato couldn't? The fact that he still had enough chakra to revive all those people suggest that he could...He didn't cause Naruto's 8th cloak form disappeared in the CT.

 

[Pirate King]

Nagato > obito > kisame