[Discussion] Akatsuki rankings

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1. Pein
2. Madara
3. Itachi
4. Sasori
5. Kisame & Orochimaru
6. Deidara
7. Kakuza
8. Hidan

because we dont know Konan or Zetsu skills I have not add them I cant believe people can put Kakuza, Hidan or Deidara ahead of Sasori but Orochimaru & Kisame maybe
 

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Honestly that was a pretty comprehensive breakdown you put some effort in to this and I can respect that. I would add that naguto is probably the strongest hence the fact that madara sought him out and seen fit to use him as the leader of the akatsuki. Furthermore his rinnengan was incredible and the only reason why he died is because his chakra reserves were to low when he performed the revival technique on konoha other than that your list very accurate in my opinion
Yeah I put the 1=2 since Pain's feats and power display have been unmatched in the manga thus far but Madara's ability to instantly teleport and phase through anything makes his powerful as well. It's just he's weak for w/e reason he keeps suggesting. Pain/Nagato was obviously gimped in his fight.
 

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1. Madara
i still think that madara is stronger. even weakened, madara knows that nagato is the real pain and just needs to teleport to him and finish him.
2. Nagato
3. Itachi
4. Deideira
C4 destroys everything that breathes and doesnt see chakra.
5. Kisame/Oro
we just saw Kisame fight with 30% of his chakra, and Oro was weakened when he fought Sasuke. I think both are very defensive charakters, but i cant say who would win between those two, they have endless chakra and both are hard to kill.
6. Oro/Kisame
7. Sasori
in my eyes one of the most overestimated charakters at all. he is terribly slow, even to slow to hit sakura most of the time, he has no real overall shield and needs preparation every time he switches to another fighting style. he is just a worse gaara.
8. Zetsu
after all we dont know much of him, we just saw one move and it was stronger than anything we ever saw from the last three. so he gets place 8 until we know more of him.
9. kakazu
he is intelligent, but his techniques arent fast enough.
10. konan
we actually didnt see much of her, she seems to be quite a good nin (they feared her in amegakure) but nothing special.
11. hidan
he is immortal, but stupid, slow and just knows one way to kill, which is pretty easy to pretend if you know how it works.
 

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how is Sasori over rated wat jus because he lost 2 Sakura & he's granma come on he's a Kage level ninja he's in the same league as all the Kages at tis point if he was serious he would of destory Sakura he beat the 3rd Kazekage we dont know he's skills but Sasori is not overrated how can u put Deidara ahead of him Sasori 4 but its jus my opinion so :p & he skills does not compare to Gaara he in another league to be honest I dont lik puppet jutsu but Sasori doing it jus looks cool rip Sasori
 
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#1-Itachi.

Madara never went through with any of the hard laid out plans until Itachi was killed, Madara himself said "so much for not touching Konoha" at Itachis dead body, suggesting quite strongly he did not want to get on the wrong side of Itachi.

Madara uses suggestion and manipulation. He knew Itachi loved Sasuke so used that against him so that Itachi would die willingly to his brother.

Can release full susanou, where it has been proved that even Kage level ninjas cant even break through a partially formed susanou from sasuke.

#2-Nagato

Massive chakra reserves, can take out hundreds of ninjas within a matter of a minute, and can also bring people back to life-quite a guy.

Managed to capture Kyuubi in 8tails mode and was ready to go even further once it broke free.

Killed a Sannin without really trying hard, he didn't even bother using 6 bodies until the end, and even then there was no strategy, pain simply overwhelmed him purely by number.

#3-Kisame

Kisame is sarcastic, the latest chapters are kishi beginning to develop Kisame more into the series.

He has made jibes at akatsuki members in sarcastic tones etc before, and we havent actually seen him use any trump cards.

In fact, quite the opposite, every jutsu he has used we have seen other ninja use before, and still he manages to out compete others.

People continue to say he has reserves 2nd to Naruto, which isnt nessecarily true or false, its difficult to say, as theyre both powerhouses, but Kisame is a tailed beast himself as Kishi writes, we have to remember naruto has 2 chakras, and we cant count the 2nd 9tail chakra as his, for this reason i believe Kisame has more chakra.

In fact i believe this is why he is shark like, he has so much chakra it begun taking physical form of a tailed beast without a tail.

I love kisames "whoever killed orochimaru must be very skilled"

Haha

#4-Sasori.

Sasori is extremely under-rated in my opinion.

He died against a questionably newbie jounin level sakura (high chuunin, low jounin) and grandma chiyo who is definitely S rank even at her age.

The thing is, grandma chiyo knew 90% of his moves, and at the end chiyo said he saw her attack but didnt dodge anyway.

If it was Sasori vs whoever without granny chiyo, Sasori would own, even Orochimaru cant survive poisons on the battlefield without kabuto to fix him up with antidotes.

Dodging Sasories techs is almost impossible unless you have seen them before, which is impossible because theyd hit you the first time lol.

#5-Orochimaru.

Errr...Its orochimaru...enough said.

Onwards is a cluster of similarly skilled people

#6/#7-Kakuzu/Deidara

Very skilled but simply too basic.


However it must be said that Kakashi lasted longer against pains 2 bodies than he lasted against kakuzu.

Deidaras great but he has one massive weakness as sasuke pointed out, he uses rock element therefore electricity owns it, anyone who is electrically dispositioned can laugh off any of his attacks, apart from the suicide one.

#8/#9zetsu/konan/

#10 Hidan

#11 Tobi

Tobi is last because it is now pretty evident he has no ability to attack, he appears to be able to have things go through him, and sure, he cant actually be killed therefore nobody can beat him, but he cant actually attack anyone.

We havent seen him attack anyone, and again, his master plan is simply mind manipulation on a global scale, which he needs a tailed beast for-not his own power.

Until we see him actually fight for real he is going to stay at the bottom.

People keep saying because zetsu and konan havent fought much theyre at the bottom.

Tobi hasnt fought at all, yet hes at the top for these people, contradict much?

Yeah he's running the show but it was mainly through manipulation of Nagato and akatsuki obeying pain.

It must be remembered only zetsu and pain knew of tobis real existence, Itachi as well.

Until he fights, he's staying at the bottom.
 

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#1-Itachi.

Madara never went through with any of the hard laid out plans until Itachi was killed, Madara himself said "so much for not touching Konoha" at Itachis dead body, suggesting quite strongly he did not want to get on the wrong side of Itachi.

Madara uses suggestion and manipulation. He knew Itachi loved Sasuke so used that against him so that Itachi would die willingly to his brother.

Can release full susanou, where it has been proved that even Kage level ninjas cant even break through a partially formed susanou from sasuke.

#2-Nagato

Massive chakra reserves, can take out hundreds of ninjas within a matter of a minute, and can also bring people back to life-quite a guy.

Managed to capture Kyuubi in 8tails mode and was ready to go even further once it broke free.

Killed a Sannin without really trying hard, he didn't even bother using 6 bodies until the end, and even then there was no strategy, pain simply overwhelmed him purely by number.

#3-Kisame

Kisame is sarcastic, the latest chapters are kishi beginning to develop Kisame more into the series.

He has made jibes at akatsuki members in sarcastic tones etc before, and we havent actually seen him use any trump cards.

In fact, quite the opposite, every jutsu he has used we have seen other ninja use before, and still he manages to out compete others.

People continue to say he has reserves 2nd to Naruto, which isnt nessecarily true or false, its difficult to say, as theyre both powerhouses, but Kisame is a tailed beast himself as Kishi writes, we have to remember naruto has 2 chakras, and we cant count the 2nd 9tail chakra as his, for this reason i believe Kisame has more chakra.

In fact i believe this is why he is shark like, he has so much chakra it begun taking physical form of a tailed beast without a tail.

I love kisames "whoever killed orochimaru must be very skilled"

Haha

#4-Sasori.

Sasori is extremely under-rated in my opinion.

He died against a questionably newbie jounin level sakura (high chuunin, low jounin) and grandma chiyo who is definitely S rank even at her age.

The thing is, grandma chiyo knew 90% of his moves, and at the end chiyo said he saw her attack but didnt dodge anyway.

If it was Sasori vs whoever without granny chiyo, Sasori would own, even Orochimaru cant survive poisons on the battlefield without kabuto to fix him up with antidotes.

Dodging Sasories techs is almost impossible unless you have seen them before, which is impossible because theyd hit you the first time lol.

#5-Orochimaru.

Errr...Its orochimaru...enough said.

Onwards is a cluster of similarly skilled people

#6/#7-Kakuzu/Deidara

Very skilled but simply too basic.


However it must be said that Kakashi lasted longer against pains 2 bodies than he lasted against kakuzu.

Deidaras great but he has one massive weakness as sasuke pointed out, he uses rock element therefore electricity owns it, anyone who is electrically dispositioned can laugh off any of his attacks, apart from the suicide one.

#8/#9zetsu/konan/

#10 Hidan

#11 Tobi

Tobi is last because it is now pretty evident he has no ability to attack, he appears to be able to have things go through him, and sure, he cant actually be killed therefore nobody can beat him, but he cant actually attack anyone.

We havent seen him attack anyone, and again, his master plan is simply mind manipulation on a global scale, which he needs a tailed beast for-not his own power.

Until we see him actually fight for real he is going to stay at the bottom.

People keep saying because zetsu and konan havent fought much theyre at the bottom.

Tobi hasnt fought at all, yet hes at the top for these people, contradict much?

Yeah he's running the show but it was mainly through manipulation of Nagato and akatsuki obeying pain.

It must be remembered only zetsu and pain knew of tobis real existence, Itachi as well.

Until he fights, he's staying at the bottom.
Yes, I like this. Based off what we have seen and not what we are assuming this makes the most sense. Except idk about the Itachi being first part. I'd say Pain could take Itachi. Pain and his relentless summons, puppet attacks, gravity attacks, etc would outlast Itachi's Susanoo and Itachi never showed any ability that could take out a large number of people at once. Therefore Pain's bodies could just be resurrected by the hell path or whatever. Itachi's defense may be absolute but he's better suited for 1 on 1 battles not 6 on 1 and he most likely would run out of chakra faster than Pain. Pain would simply overwhelm and outlast Itachi. Plus even though we haven't seen Itachi at his peak because of his sickness or whatever, Pain still showed more overall power/destructive capabilities/endurance than Itachi since he took out one of the biggest villages with one attack and then continued on to battle a Sage of Myobokuzan.
 

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how is Sasori over rated wat jus because he lost 2 Sakura & he's granma come on he's a Kage level ninja he's in the same league as all the Kages at tis point if he was serious he would of destory Sakura he beat the 3rd Kazekage we dont know he's skills but Sasori is not overrated how can u put Deidara ahead of him Sasori 4 but its jus my opinion so :p & he skills does not compare to Gaara he in another league to be honest I dont lik puppet jutsu but Sasori doing it jus looks cool rip Sasori
that depends on what you take for kage level. raikage would destroy him within seconds.
come on, even if you now what move your enemy makes next, if he's fast and strong enough you wont be able to counter him, lee proved that with sasuke. and most of the time sakura was fast enough to block sasoris attacks all alone, and naruto and sasuke both are about 10 times as fast, sakura couldnt even react on sasuke when he jumped towards naruto.
 
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