Akatsuki members and there reasons for joining & being accepted in the Akatsuki...

[Berimbolo No Jutsu]

Akatsuki members and there reasons for joining & being accepted in the Akatsuki...

Only focusing on Obito's "New" Akatsuki here, feel free to add or correct me:

Obito and Nagato's reasons are obvious and well documented. They were full hearted believer in "Madara's" plan and in their own way wanted to "REPAIR" the world just like Madara.

Itachi joined the Akatsuki to keep an eye on the organization and spy for the Hidden Leaf. He was the most powerful Uchiha, and it would be natural for Obito to want to take him in under his wing. And ofcourse he would be a powerful weapon in Madara's war.

Kakuza saw opportunity in bounties to get rich while working with the Akatsuki and joined for personal gain. He would also be a powerful weapon in the war had he survived long enough and been convinced of the cause.

Kisame was recruited by "Madara" (obito) while he was manipulating Yagura, and convinced to be a loyal member and believer in the cause by the leader in the shadows. There was obvious talent here and when paired with his legendary sword he was an extremely powerful Ally and weapon for the Akatsuki. He was also a intelligent tactician.

Sasori joined because it was convenient for him, but was obviously one of the least dedicated members. He was proud and made a valuable weapon for the Akatsuki as his puppet and poison mastery basically made him an invincible one man army. In the war he would have been an invaluable Ally so it's no wonder the Akatsuki wanted him even if his heart wasn't fully in it.

Konan obviously followed alongside Nagato, they were a 2 for 1 deal no doubt.

Deidara was recruited to replace Orochimaru, and only joined because he was defeated by Itachi, and saw the Sharingan as a work of art. He had the ability to fly, and his jutsu made him a useful tool in collecting jinchuriki.

Orochimaru obviously wanted to use the Akatsuki to his advantage to find new jutsu and bodies for experiments and immortality. As one of the most intelligent and powerful ninja alive it's no wonder the Akatsuki would have liked to get him on their side, but it's also no wonder it didn't work out.


Now for the most puzzeling member....


Hidan

Hidan sounds like a good fit for the akatsuki on paper. i mean he's immortal and evil, but let's think about this for a second.

Hidan hates and disrespects all other members of the Akatsuki, even the leaders. The only one he plays nice with is his partner Kakuza.

The only reason he was brought in to the Akatsuki is because Kakuza needed a partner that couldn't be killed???

What kind of help would Hidan really be in the war? He's basically an arrogant moron. His jutsu is extremely strong against one person, and he can't die, but seriously. He'd probably be nothing but extra work for the other Akatsuki members in a war because they would have to put him back together every couple hours.


There's also the fact that he ONLY wants to kill people ritualistically for Jashin. The akatsuki holds him back, and he hates that. He would rather be on his own just killing people as much as possible. What's in it for him besides Kakuza sewing him back together now and then when he has a tough fight? he could be out slaughtering helpless people in easy fights, right?


So why would he join the Akatsuki in the first place?


I have a whole theory on Jashin being Hagoromo's brother and a player behind the scenes here:

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Just thought about this and since Hidan isn't even dead seems like there could be more to his story too. He is the sole "surviving" Akatsuki member outside of Zetsu and Obito. It seems like his story and abilities were cut short compared to what we saw from others, and that immortality he possessed was nothing like any other jutsu out there, and he claimed it religion based with credit to his "GOD" jashin... the only other GOD mentioned in this story was the Sage of the 6 paths...



Who was the closest Akutsuki member to Hidan in terms of usefullness and power???

TOBI of course. Tobi was an annoying idiot, but he had the amazing unique ability for objects to pass through him and he could disappear/teleport... turns out he wasn't Tobi and there was more to his story... not sure on Hidan, but I know there is definitely more to him and Jashin. I think they're about to make a comeback for the grand finale...

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

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Nagato and Konan didn't really "join" Akatsuki, since it was founded by Yahiko in the first place.

They were probably coaxed into following Obito's orders at one point.

 

[Berimbolo No Jutsu]

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Nagato and Konan didn't really "join" Akatsuki, since it was founded by Yahiko in the first place.

They were probably coaxed into following Obito's orders at one point.

In the first line I mentioned this was only referring to Obitio's "New" akatsuki. Also there is no argument against the fact that Nagato fully believed in Obito and infinite tsukiyomi, and that Konan fully believed in Nagato. There is definitely room for criticism, editions, and additions on this theory, but you're focusing on the wrong things.

 

[Joshutsu]

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Hidan is dead.... Malnutrition can kill him and he's been in the ground for months now in pieces. He must be dead.

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

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In the first line I mentioned this was only referring to Obitio's "New" akatsuki. Also there is no argument against the fact that Nagato fully believed in Obito and infinite tsukiyomi, and that Konan fully believed in Nagato. There is definitely room for criticism, editions, and additions on this theory, but you're focusing on the wrong things.

Oops, I'm really dumb. Ignore what I said

Thoughts on Hidan: I think he was interested or motivated to join because of the power associated with it. Since he's a total psycho, it's not farfetched to assume that the concept of capturing the Bijuu (legendary powerful beings) sparked his interest.

 

[KillerbYo]

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I dont think Hidan was weird but i dont get wy Kisame joined.

 

[Berimbolo No Jutsu]

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Hidan is dead.... Malnutrition can kill him and he's been in the ground for months now in pieces. He must be dead.

I haven't seen anything anywhere to suggest that he is dead. It's entirely possible, but everything I've read suggests he is alive and probably very pissed off. Who is to say that the same person that saved Madara after Hashirama "killed" him didn't dig up Hidan too?

 

[Berimbolo No Jutsu]

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Oops, I'm really dumb. Ignore what I said

Thoughts on Hidan: I think he was interested or motivated to join because of the power associated with it. Since he's a total psycho, it's not farfetched to assume that the concept of capturing the Bijuu (legendary powerful beings) sparked his interest.

I can grasp that, but the thing is he was expressly written by Kishi to show disdain for capturing the jinchuriki, and hated wasting his time sealing them. He really just wanted to kill them. Even in his first scene he didn't want to keep the Jinchuriki alive, and when Hidan and Kakuza finished sealing they left for their last battle and Hidan was pissed that he had to waste 6 days and couldn't wait to go on a killing spree. this is straight from the manga.

 

[Joshutsu]

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I haven't seen anything anywhere to suggest that he is dead. It's entirely possible, but everything I've read suggests he is alive and probably very pissed off. Who is to say that the same person that saved Madara after Hashirama "killed" him didn't dig up Hidan too?

For some reason I doubt Hidan is that important. His chapter in akatsuki closed like all the others. Even if Jashin was indeed a being in the history of this whole story why does that have to mean Hidan will come back to serve a purpose?

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

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I can grasp that, but the thing is he was expressly written by Kishi to show disdain for capturing the jinchuriki, and hated wasting his time sealing them. He really just wanted to kill them. Even in his first scene he didn't want to keep the Jinchuriki alive, and when Hidan and Kakuza finished sealing they left for their last battle and Hidan was pissed that he had to waste 6 days and couldn't wait to go on a killing spree. this is straight from the manga.

Good point. Then I'd say his motivation was to go out and kill the strongest that he could, which ofc would be the well-known Jinchuuriki. There isn't much evidence to support it, though...

 

[Berimbolo No Jutsu]

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For some reason I doubt Hidan is that important. His chapter in akatsuki closed like all the others. Even if Jashin was indeed a being in the history of this whole story why does that have to mean Hidan will come back to serve a purpose?

I was thinking like that at first too when I put that whole Jashin theory together.

But Kishi is a sucker for those Revenge plots. I can see Hidan coming back into play just for the Shikamaru/Hiruzen shock factor, and showing off his "REAL" skills as an s-class ninja. you know he had to have more than that one ritual. As faithful servant of Jashin, I could see him coming with Jashin, or in some way actually being Jashin, kind of like Tobi/madara/obito....

I know that seems played out, but Kishi seems to keep bringing shit like that back, and if he is going to do it one more time this would be the best one IMO. I mean the whole brother thing is way played out and then Hagoromo has one (I called Kaguya having a second child weeks before, but expected a daughter this time...). Also hair color the same as the sage-bro/kaguya... who knows. I just think if he was going to die, he would have been definiteively killed off. Seems like that was left open for something...

 

[Joshutsu]

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I was thinking like that at first too when I put that whole Jashin theory together.

But Kishi is a sucker for those Revenge plots. I can see Hidan coming back into play just for the Shikamaru/Hiruzen shock factor, and showing off his "REAL" skills as an s-class ninja. you know he had to have more than that one ritual. As faithful servant of Jashin, I could see him coming with Jashin, or in some way actually being Jashin, kind of like Tobi/madara/obito....

I know that seems played out, but Kishi seems to keep bringing shit like that back, and if he is going to do it one more time this would be the best one IMO. I mean the whole brother thing is way played out and then Hagoromo has one (I called Kaguya having a second child weeks before, but expected a daughter this time...). Also hair color the same as the sage-bro/kaguya... who knows.

How many times has kishi killed off a character and they came back with revenge vendetta? If he was coming back for Shikamaru and co it would have happened around the time with kakuzu IMO some characters will never get any more development. He would not be the first actually.

Hidan was S-class simply because he was immortal and that ability, I think those already put him in that rank. Do you really think Jashin would come back at this point i na war about a totally different purpose would be in any form in accordance to the plot?

IDK what youre talking about tbh when has kishi done this? You are going pretty far and we don't even know if Jashin is even a brother at all.

But it's your theory, I would recommend to not get too excited about this because i'm going to be honest when I say that this theory seems wayyy out of the box for where the story is going. There's no time for Hidan to be highlighted in the ending of the series. Sorry

 

[Berimbolo No Jutsu]

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How many times has kishi killed off a character and they came back with revenge vendetta? If he was coming back for Shikamaru and co it would have happened around the time with kakuzu IMO some characters will never get any more development. He would not be the first actually.

Hidan was S-class simply because he was immortal and that ability, I think those already put him in that rank. Do you really think Jashin would come back at this point i na war about a totally different purpose would be in any form in accordance to the plot?

IDK what youre talking about tbh when has kishi done this? You are going pretty far and we don't even know if Jashin is even a brother at all.

But it's your theory, I would recommend to not get too excited about this because i'm going to be honest when I say that this theory seems wayyy out of the box for where the story is going. There's no time for Hidan to be highlighted in the ending of the series. Sorry

What your saying is obviously what most people think, and even if I'm right it's what Kishi wants you to think.

To me it's fun because it's out of the box. I've been right with a few others in similar out-there-ness in the past.

Also Hidan has not been KILLED OFF, and that is just it. Why wasn't he killed off?

 

[Joshutsu]

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What your saying is obviously what most people think, and even if I'm right it's what Kishi wants you to think.

To me it's fun because it's out of the box. I've been right with a few others in similar out-there-ness in the past.

Also Hidan has not been KILLED OFF, and that is just it. Why wasn't he killed off?

What else have you been right about that was out there?

Considering you think a guy that saved Madara which is unconfirmed in itself saved Hidan too. I think i'm going to believe that he is dead because I am led to believe by the manga that he is several feet under the earth and dead from malnutrition.

 

[Konohas Yellow Flash]

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I'm really enjoying reading you guys debate and agree in a friendly way XD its nice, nice indeed and interesting.

 

[Berimbolo No Jutsu]

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What else have you been right about that was out there?

Considering you think a guy that saved Madara which is unconfirmed in itself saved Hidan too. I think i'm going to believe that he is dead because I am led to believe by the manga that he is several feet under the earth and dead from malnutrition.

Throughout the series quite a bit, a lot of the twists where new characters were revealed left clues that were easily forgotten, but I always think about that stuff. I'm kind of an emersion reader. IU'm sure many others are too, and I've seen a lot of them come up with awesome theories that I never would have thought of since I've been here. Many inspired me to change some of mine.

Most recently since I joined this board I got this right for the most part:

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I predicted that there was another "Original Gangsta" Chakra user. Either someone that ate the fruit with Kaguya, or another child of Kaguya or the Sage. Everyone was ignoring the hell out of me saying there is no way a powerful character would be revealed this late in the story. Well I was right, and that was a pretty far out curveball. I also guessed it was Uzumaki ancestor, which seems to be a pretty common theory now that the new character has been announced.


There is evidence to support that Madara was saved. Hashirama, ninja god, was convinced he killed Madara as was everyone else, but in the next manga frame he clearly "senses" someone up on the cliff:

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Now it could be that he is looking in awe at how they "changed the landscape", but I think it's more likely that there was a person up there Hashirama sensed for an instant, and that person had something to do with Madara's miraculous recovery from death. look at the stare on hashirama's face as he gazes at the top of the cliff.

 

[Joshutsu]

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I see, and I believe Hashirama saw someone as well. Because he clearly noticed something.

Is that your only link that this guy who you are thinking saved Madara is the same guy still alive who went and saved Hidan and is brining him to the war to reveal Jashin was the other son?

I'm not against Jashin being revealed to be a significant person in the past but I am against the thought of Hidan having something to do with it as in coming back. It could be that Hidan was just a tool by kishi to reveal Jashin and now we will find out more about him if it was the other son of kaguya.

It's the same thing to me as people saying that Hinata will get a major role if Kaguya is revealed to have byakugan which is not exactly the case more than just us knowing where byakugan origin was.

What other evidence do you have on the whole Hidan will be used again? Since you said there are clues left behind that people often miss than build up. I don't even think Hidan ever had any interaction with any of the main characters at all. Just kakashi.

His whole plot in the akatsuki season of the manga was built around supporting characters.

 

[Beans2]

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"Eventually, he joined Akatsuki after seeing Kakuzu, a man who he saw as a pioneer in immortality,[5] and he was later partnered with him." -Narutopedia, source being 3rd databook

And Hidan is dead. If he doesn't eat or drink, his body will decompose.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

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Hidan durability is incosistent. We have him tanking Kakuzu wind blast with no damage whatsoever to him, not even damage on his clothes, but he gets cut by Asuma's blade and blown up by paper bomb.

 

[Berimbolo No Jutsu]

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I see, and I believe Hashirama saw someone as well. Because he clearly noticed something.

Is that your only link that this guy who you are thinking saved Madara is the same guy still alive who went and saved Hidan and is brining him to the war to reveal Jashin was the other son?

I'm not against Jashin being revealed to be a significant person in the past but I am against the thought of Hidan having something to do with it as in coming back. It could be that Hidan was just a tool by kishi to reveal Jashin and now we will find out more about him if it was the other son of kaguya.

It's the same thing to me as people saying that Hinata will get a major role if Kaguya is revealed to have byakugan which is not exactly the case more than just us knowing where byakugan origin was.

What other evidence do you have on the whole Hidan will be used again? Since you said there are clues left behind that people often miss than build up. I don't even think Hidan ever had any interaction with any of the main characters at all. Just kakashi.

His whole plot in the akatsuki season of the manga was built around supporting characters.

Right now Hiruzen is holding shit together on the front line, also Shikamaru just had a break through moment where he decided to survive and be Naruto's right hand....

... to be honest I don't have my heart in this argument specifically for Hidan, because I pretty much agree with you. There are lots of clues leading to Jashin, but my theory on Hidan coming back is just more of a gut feeling than anything else.

With that said how badass would it be if Hidan, the man who killed Hiruzen's son, showed his face out of the spiral Zetzu or something. lol.

Let's think about Zetsu's abilities and whereabouts during the final battle Hidan had. Zetsu / Guruguru could have been watching the whole thing then did his little earth "Mayfly" technique and scooped up the remains of Hidan. He could be in Guruguru right now fighting Hiruzen. Zetsu watched pretty much all the Akatsuki fights... except Hidan??? or was there something happening in the background there


Not a likely case, but I definitely think it's within the realm of possibility.

"Eventually, he joined Akatsuki after seeing Kakuzu, a man who he saw as a pioneer in immortality,[5] and he was later partnered with him." -Narutopedia, source being 3rd databook

And Hidan is dead. If he doesn't eat or drink, his body will decompose.

Databook also specifically stated that he "can" die of malnutrition, not that he had died. In fact it's very ambiguous about it. Narutopedia wanted to mark that ***** as dead like all the others, but he has to stay as "incapacitated".

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Why would Kakuza specifically imply that Hidan was not dead if that wasn't somehow important? He could have just as easily not mentioned Hidan, or assumed he was sent to a different sector, but instead he specifically told us that he must not be dead.