[Discussion] Aizen vs everyone else in bleach

[24 12 11 to troll]

if juhabach and yamamoto teamed up they would take him down , or just get FGT ichigo to do it

 

[Simple Math]

aizen was a beast,plain and simple,the reason yammamoto didnt use his bankai? because he still would have lost,think about it aizen never showed his bankai,and im pretty sure if yammamoto used his bankai aizen would have used his and won,and he'd own junahabach,he knows this thats why he tried to recruit aizen,id have to say probley the soul king would be the only one with a chance to beat him(without trollface ichigo mem instered here),even tho my favourite bleach character is and always will be grimmjow,aizen was a true op antgonist,he lost with the greatest troll in anime history(imo) and the only reason he was trolled is simply because tite kubo made him too powerful,aizen is currently unmatched plain and simple

Aizen himself admitted inferiority to Yamamoto, which is why he created wonderwice to seal his powers away. if you ask me, I can't tell for sure how a battle between Aizen and Yamamoto' would've turned out, considering Aizen's Shikai alone is complete hypnosis which is pretty OP, OP enough to beat several captains with zero effort.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Aizen himself admitted inferiority to Yamamoto, which is why he created wonderwice to seal his powers away. if you ask me, I can't tell for sure how a battle between Aizen and Yamamoto' would've turned out, considering Aizen's Shikai alone is complete hypnosis which is pretty OP, OP enough to beat several captains with zero effort.

when that being said, Juha Bach shits on them both.

Juha was not stronger than Yamamoto so kill that noise

 

[Simple Math]

Juha was not stronger than Yamamoto so kill that noise

I never talked about stronger or weaker.

 

[KakuzuHatesMoney]

Aizen is nowhere near unstoppable in deathgod form. Compared to Yamamoto he was a fodder. Even he admitted it. However, with the Hogyoku nobody can beat him on their own. That final form that fought Ichigo at the height of his power had incredible power. That together with his continuous evolution, immortality and extremely high intelligence puts him above everyone else. Ichigo lost that fight. Aizen was still standing before he got sealed by Urahara. And no Juha was nowhere near as strong as Yamamoto. He had to steal his Bankai to win and use another guy as bait to kill Yamamoto. Kubo agrees. Simple as that.

 

[Simple Math]

Aizen is nowhere near unstoppable in deathgod form. Compared to Yamamoto he was a fodder. Even he admitted it. However, with the Hogyoku nobody can beat him on their own. That final form that fought Ichigo at the height of his power had incredible power. That together with his continuous evolution, immortality and extremely high intelligence puts him above everyone else. Ichigo lost that fight. Aizen was still standing before he got sealed by Urahara. And no Juha was nowhere near as strong as Yamamoto. He had to steal his Bankai to win and use another guy as bait to kill Yamamoto. Kubo agrees. Simple as that.

your whole post made no sense. I didn't even need to bold any weird parts -.-

 

[TheHokage]

Aizen is nowhere near unstoppable in deathgod form. Compared to Yamamoto he was a fodder. Even he admitted it. However, with the Hogyoku nobody can beat him on their own. That final form that fought Ichigo at the height of his power had incredible power. That together with his continuous evolution, immortality and extremely high intelligence puts him above everyone else. Ichigo lost that fight. Aizen was still standing before he got sealed by Urahara. And no Juha was nowhere near as strong as Yamamoto. He had to steal his Bankai to win and use another guy as bait to kill Yamamoto. Kubo agrees. Simple as that.

In your opinion Ichigo lost...Aizen only survived due to the Hogyoku without it he would have died however Ichigo beat him to the point the Hogyoku refused Aizen, besides it was clear Ichigo was stronger than Aizen before he used FGT.

Also FYI Kubo doesn't agree with anything you've said, as Juha outsmarted Yamamoto as Yamamoto knew Quincies had the ability to steal bankai's yet he still used it thinking no one could steal his arrogance at it's best and Juha used this against Yamamoto and so no matter what you say in the battle between Juhabach and Yamamoto Juha came out on top that is the fact.

Whether Yamamoto would beat Juha with his bankai is irrelevant as we didn't see the battle so no one can truthfully say who is stronger.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

this is just what you want it to be. in fact, Kubo disagrees. sure they must've been equal in strenght, however, when Kubo draw new villians, they literally wipe the floor with everybody. Yamamoto isn't an exception.

Um yea cuz all they do is take his flames from him cuz they are scared to fight him straight up.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

In your opinion Ichigo lost...Aizen only survived due to the Hogyoku without it he would have died however Ichigo beat him to the point the Hogyoku refused Aizen, besides it was clear Ichigo was stronger than Aizen before he used FGT.

Also FYI Kubo doesn't agree with anything you've said, as Juha outsmarted Yamamoto as Yamamoto knew Quincies had the ability to steal bankai's yet he still used it thinking no one could steal his arrogance at it's best and Juha used this against Yamamoto and so no matter what you say in the battle between Juhabach and Yamamoto Juha came out on top that is the fact.

Whether Yamamoto would beat Juha with his bankai is irrelevant as we didn't see the battle so no one can truthfully say who is stronger.

Lol this again he did not out smart him he just stole his bankai..he did not come up with a plan during the fight he just showed up an stole it..we all kno who stronger..juha knew they won't going to beat the soul reapers with out stealing their power..we all seem what happens when they can't steal ur power just ask the three kenpachi beat an the fake juha lol.

 

[KakuzuHatesMoney]

your whole post made no sense. I didn't even need to bold any weird parts -.-

Nothing you say makes any sense. You clearly didn't read the manga if you think Yama < Juha. Lmao. You're just some dude that should be on the Korean version of these forums and can't read ^^

 

[Simple Math]

Nothing you say makes any sense. You clearly didn't read the manga if you think Yama < Juha. Lmao. You're just some dude that should be on the Korean version of these forums and can't read ^^

you almsot talk like everything you say are facts, when they just are your own opinions in the end no need to get upset over such a discussion lol.

 

[TheHokage]

Lol this again he did not out smart him he just stole his bankai..he did not come up with a plan during the fight he just showed up an stole it..we all kno who stronger..juha knew they won't going to beat the soul reapers with out stealing their power..we all seem what happens when they can't steal ur power just ask the three kenpachi beat an the fake juha lol.

But it was their plan to steal the Bankai dumbass, Yamamoto knew this but still fell for it and in the end he was defeated due to this.

Maybe Yamamoto was stronger with his Bankai but as we didn't see Juha vs his bankai you can't assume you know for certain.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

But it was their plan to steal the Bankai dumbass, Yamamoto knew this but still fell for it and in the end he was defeated due to this.

Maybe Yamamoto was stronger with his Bankai but as we didn't see Juha vs his bankai you can't assume you know for certain.

Like I said befor what shikamaru does that's out smarting ur opponen..yea that was there plan an he knew that he just did not think they could steal his because they did not kno his bankai full power.. juha did not use no smart tactics or nothing.

But anyway there's was no way the Quincy to win with out stealing bankai.

 

[TheHokage]

Like I said befor what shikamaru does that's out smarting ur opponen..yea that was there plan an he knew that he just did not think they could steal his because they did not kno his bankai full power.. juha did not use no smart tactics or nothing.

But anyway there's was no way the Quincy to win with out stealing bankai.

I'm not getting into this with you again believe who you want to believe in who's the strongest as I doubt you'll ever believe someone will be stronger than Yamamoto.

End of the day Juha won...you can say it however you like but the fact of the matter was Juha left Yamamoto in the dirt so in mine and many other's eyes it proved Juha was better.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

I'm not getting into this with you again believe who you want to believe in who's the strongest as I doubt you'll ever believe someone will be stronger than Yamamoto.

End of the day Juha won...you can say it however you like but the fact of the matter was Juha left Yamamoto in the dirt so in mine and many other's eyes it proved Juha was better.

Some one will be stronger or even to Yamamoto..kenpachi or ichigo will be even or surpass him..but juha was just not stronger well he is now ill give him that...Yamamoto was the strongest untill he died no main villain wanted to fight him head up for a reason.

 

[KakuzuHatesMoney]

I'm not getting into this with you again believe who you want to believe in who's the strongest as I doubt you'll ever believe someone will be stronger than Yamamoto.

End of the day Juha won...you can say it however you like but the fact of the matter was Juha left Yamamoto in the dirt so in mine and many other's eyes it proved Juha was better.

Then you must have an IQ lower than 60. We really don't need to go into why Yamamoto is far superior in technique and power than shitty Quincies. He needed to steal his Bankai to even have a chance and he needed to use a subordinate as bait. As far as I - and many others - are concerned, Juha Bach is a little bitch. Such a terrible villain compared to Aizen.

 

[TheHokage]

Then you must have an IQ lower than 60. We really don't need to go into why Yamamoto is far superior in technique and power than shitty Quincies. He needed to steal his Bankai to even have a chance and he needed to use a subordinate as bait. As far as I - and many others - are concerned, Juha Bach is a little bitch. Such a terrible villain compared to Aizen.

Ha, resorting to insults I see anyway he didn't need to use his subordinate as bait if you read the manga you'd of seen he did it so he could meet Aizen.

As I said before say it how you like Juhabach defeated Yamamoto in battle he may not be superior in strength however he outsmarted Yamamoto like Aizen did before and sealed Yamamoto's power away (In my opinion he should of saw it coming) and defeated him end of story.

 

[adventnova]

As I said before say it how you like Juha bach defeated Yamamoto in battle he may not be superior in strength however he outsmarted Yamamoto like Aizen did before and sealed Yamamoto's power away (In my opinion he should of saw it coming) and defeated him end of story.

Also Yamamoto was a bit arrogant which lead to his demise. he should've felt the difference of the power and essence of the reiatsu's that were being given off. Juhabach doesnt have an ability to hide his reiatsu, not saying its impossible fro him to lower it below detection. Even then, i know Yama fought the Quincy thats able to duplicate almost exactly the person he wants to and he killed him, he shouldve known skills wise from there as well.

But like you said in the end, Juha bach came out on top. Urahara came out on top against Aizen sealing the Houkyogo and Ichigo technically not winning, nor losing but was at the losing side with only having limited control of his Getsuga form and losing its abilities after using Mugetsu attack. The Houkyoko in the end though was rejecting Aizen, which Aizen even said so once he started becoming human looking again, which is why the houkyoko had gotten sealed inside him. If Aizen was a little bit weaker he couldve been wounded enough for them to remove it from him instead of imprisoning him. But that we dont know if was possible. We jsut know because he was weakened enough for Urahara's kido seal to be activated after his surprise attack in Fake Kurakura Town.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Ha, resorting to insults I see anyway he didn't need to use his subordinate as bait if you read the manga you'd of seen he did it so he could meet Aizen.

As I said before say it how you like Juhabach defeated Yamamoto in battle he may not be superior in strength however he outsmarted Yamamoto like Aizen did before and sealed Yamamoto's power away (In my opinion he should of saw it coming) and defeated him end of story.

Yea Yamamoto is stronger but there was no way Yamamoto could win without bankai.

 

[hiche888]

he is the second strongest, the strongest is the old man yamamato with his bankai, aizan even told him he can't defeat him head to head that's why he made wonderwise to seal his zanpakuto not to mention without yamamato activating his bankai.