AH HA!!! XD I figured out Naruto's power up.

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Now this is not a bad idea, the good guys will need something along these lines if they are to have a prayer against Madara.
 

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So naruto has to depend on a severed hand of the gedo mazou to survive....this defines desperate.nice theory though
 

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You see that is the problem. I think Orochimaru is more knowledgeable. Orochimaru has done extensive research regarding the Uchiha and the Senju. Orochimaru has researched dozens of clans abilities while experimenting. Orochimaru has proof that the Rinnengan is obtained through the powers of the Uchiha and the senju, yet he thinks that something about Sasuke's physiology that will allow him to to surpass that power. Madara simply read the Tablet and came up with his own hypothesis. Orochimaru however had already came to that conclusion before proving it with Madara.

Therefore due to these reasons I look to their statements instead of Madara's or Obito's, especially seeing that there is proof as plain as day.

Question: Have you ever wondered why Kabuto stated that he himself was the closest to the So6P when he himself possessed neither Senju nor Uchiha powers???

Let me say why I think your point of view about Orochimaru wanting Sasuke's body is far beyond your expectations.

Orochimaru has proof that the Rinnengan is obtained through the powers of the Uchiha and the senju, yet he thinks that something about Sasuke's physiology that will allow him to to surpass that power.

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But there is a thing for sure that I could tell you... The Sage's body is not in the Senju DNA only. It is in the Uchiha's DNA as well, just as the Rinnegan shares DNA from both clans.

My friend... If my hunch is right, Orochimaru never wanted to find the Rinnegan. He wanted the Sage's Body, and the only way to achieve this, is having both Senju DNA and an Uchiha Body. If Orochimaru had a Sharingan and Senju DNA, he would have achieved the way to create a living Rinnegan just the way Madara did.

Do a Rinnegan gives Orochimaru what he needs for get knowledge, for instance, almost eternal life to get knowledge? He is Orochimaru the Immortal, to have the Sage's Body with HUGE lifeforce is what really makes sense for this instance... that explains why he would be seeking for Sasuke's body instead of just his eyes.

So, if Kabuto was closer than anyone in the battlefield to be like the Sage, it would be by no more reasons than him having the requirement for achieving the body of the Sage, not the eyes!
 

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Let me say why I think your point of view about Orochimaru wanting Sasuke's body is far beyond your expectations.





My friend... If my hunch is right, Orochimaru never wanted to find the Rinnegan. He wanted the Sage's Body, and the only way to achieve this, is having both Senju DNA and an Uchiha Body. If Orochimaru had a Sharingan and Senju DNA, he would have achieved the way to create a living Rinnegan just the way Madara did.

Do a Rinnegan gives Orochimaru what he needs for get knowledge, for instance, almost eternal life to get knowledge? He is Orochimaru the Immortal, to have the Sage's Body with HUGE lifeforce is what really makes sense for this instance... that explains why he would be seeking for Sasuke's body instead of just his eyes.

So, if Kabuto was closer than anyone in the battlefield to be like the Sage, it would be by no more reasons than him having the requirement for achieving the body of the Sage, not the eyes!

Interesting I would rep you but I can't.

I like how you are differentiating between the sages eyes and his body. But I thought the Rinnegan was the ultimate expression of both the body and the eyes working together. I did not think the Body was also an ultimate expression in and of itself. Does that mean that Hashirama was not a "complete" example of the sages body? That there is more to it? Kabuto certainly seemed to have a more "powerful" body.
 

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Interesting I would rep you but I can't.

I like how you are differentiating between the sages eyes and his body. But I thought the Rinnegan was the ultimate expression of both the body and the eyes working together. I did not think the Body was also an ultimate expression in and of itself. Does that mean that Hashirama was not a "complete" example of the sages body? That there is more to it? Kabuto certainly seemed to have a more "powerful" body.

Chapter 462 tells us that the Elder Son inherited the Eyes, but these eyes were not the Rinnegan, it was just the Yin part of the Rinnegan (the complement was inherited by the Younger Son).

At the same time, the Younger son inherited only the Yang of the Sage's body.

You can easily reach this conclusion when you know that Rinnegan didn't depend only on Uchiha, but also in Senju DNA. This means that the Eyes of the Sage had both Yin and Yang inside, also the Body of the Sage had to follow these rules.

Chapter 510 tells us that Yang power is the ability to give life to any form, and Yin power is the ability to give shape to these forms.

What is a body if it doesn't have any form? That's Yang without Yin. Ergo, the body had to depend on both Yin and Yang, so when divided, the Younger son had the most powerful yang power (in the body), and the Elder son had the most powerful yin power (in the eyes). The counterparts were inherited by the other brother (the elder brother inherited a normal body and the younger brother inherited normal eyes). As a whole, they could awake a new power in both eyes and body.
 

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Let me say why I think your point of view about Orochimaru wanting Sasuke's body is far beyond your expectations.





My friend... If my hunch is right, Orochimaru never wanted to find the Rinnegan. He wanted the Sage's Body, and the only way to achieve this, is having both Senju DNA and an Uchiha Body. If Orochimaru had a Sharingan and Senju DNA, he would have achieved the way to create a living Rinnegan just the way Madara did.

Do a Rinnegan gives Orochimaru what he needs for get knowledge, for instance, almost eternal life to get knowledge? He is Orochimaru the Immortal, to have the Sage's Body with HUGE lifeforce is what really makes sense for this instance... that explains why he would be seeking for Sasuke's body instead of just his eyes.

So, if Kabuto was closer than anyone in the battlefield to be like the Sage, it would be by no more reasons than him having the requirement for achieving the body of the Sage, not the eyes!

(facepalm) just (facepalm) Orochimaru's chief concern were Sasuke's eyes. He was entranced by them. He wanted Sasuke's body, but the eyes were what got him.
 

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It is indeed very plausible, keep Naruto safe while Minato transfers Yin Kyūbi to hi son, and there's also the matter of why Kishi would Kamui the Gedo Arm if it didn't serve any purpose.
 

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Did you think it was weird that Naruto is gonna get the Yin half of the Kyuubi while currently he can't even breathe on his own, this is the same half that rendered Minato immobile from the weight of its chakra. I don't think being nearly dead is a stable condition to become a jinchuuriki. So here is my idea:

In order to escape Madara, Obito or Kakashi will use Kamui to transport Naruto and Minato to the dimension where Kakashi threw the Mazo's arm. The arm is sealed into Naruto to act as life support and then the Yin Kurama is absorbed into Naruto.
If Kishi can pull something with the Ichibi Naruto could get

Juubi power- or the Sage's body

Your opinion please :x3:
I like if the Gedo arm is used. It could serve several purposes.
However, how will Minato and Naruto get back?
Will Minato's FTG work in the Kamui dimension?
 

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(facepalm) just (facepalm) Orochimaru's chief concern were Sasuke's eyes. He was entranced by them. He wanted Sasuke's body, but the eyes were what got him.

I already though about that... and I already said in my post that if that were the case, Orochimaru would just killed Sasuke in part 1 and take his eyes.

Why would he want to develop Sasuke's body?

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